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NICKjnp wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Cypher0020 wrote...

well since Shepard is a spectre.... doesn't that defy all known military regs? Therefore.... their relationship would be ok, right?


Shepard, I think, can do whatever the hell she wants provided she doesn't go against the will of the Council.  The Normandy seems to be under Alliance lockdown, however (since Udina is the one to issue the lockdown order), and Kaidan still has to go where he's told by the Alliance.

So if the Alliance thought Kaidan was somehow weakening Shepard's resolve, they could reassign him and I doubt she could do anything about it.


She could say... "I want him back now!"  They would be forced to obey an order from her.  The only people who are allowed to not follow a command Shepard gives is the Council (obviously) and another Spectre.


Actually, thinking about it, I'm not sure she could.  She can balk at Alliance authority, but the Alliance can pull their support from under her, including her ship and crew.  Hackett makes it pretty clear that he still considers her one of theirs.  The only reason she has any sway with the Alliance outside her heroic reputation is because they want to keep her happy for political reasons.

She's in the balance - the Council want her because she's Alliance and the Alliance wants her because she's Council.  :huh:

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It's like some kind of non-vicious circle...

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Cypher0020 wrote...

awwwww darn it. I just really wish loyal players could get more than a picture.....everyone else got their issues squared away..... why not mine? -sobs-

Yeah.  A little montage would have been good--like that Thinking of Horizon video on youtube

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well since Shepard is a spectre.... doesn't that defy all known military regs? Therefore.... their relationship would be ok, right?

Yeah.  I thought that if they really wanted to they could have used that angle.  But I think that she's still somewhat Alliance.  She's flying an Alliance ship with Alliance crew, etc.  So he's still under her chain of command. 

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If push comes to shove, as loyal as he is to the alliance, I can see him giving them the finger given the right circumstances.

Afterall, he went along with stealing the Normandy.  Posted Image

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@ Batt - The first time I heard that line I just fell for him. I went from "Ugh! Stop talking about Rahna" to "You think I'm beautiful?"


D'aww!  Pity there isn't a way to respond that way to him.  You can say those exact words to Carth and I think Alistair as well.

Yeah, but its more fun to rib Carth about it not being appropriate--even if you really like it.  I love Carth's playful flirtiness  Posted Image

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Although I wouldn't mind if Kaidan/Ashley were Spectres, I would just quit playing ME3 completely and uninstall it if I had to fight against Kaidan at any point. Full stop. The Virmire Survivor has been through enough, let them join the team and be a valuable member, please.

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TeenZombie wrote...
Although I wouldn't mind if Kaidan/Ashley were Spectres, I would just quit playing ME3 completely and uninstall it if I had to fight against Kaidan at any point. Full stop. The Virmire Survivor has been through enough, let them join the team and be a valuable member, please.

Agreed.  However, a situation where Shep had the opportunity to surrender, refusing to fight Ash/Kai under any circumstances, might be written quite awesomely.  Depends on the circumstances.

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Estelindis wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...
Although I wouldn't mind if Kaidan/Ashley were Spectres, I would just quit playing ME3 completely and uninstall it if I had to fight against Kaidan at any point. Full stop. The Virmire Survivor has been through enough, let them join the team and be a valuable member, please.

Agreed.  However, a situation where Shep had the opportunity to surrender, refusing to fight Ash/Kai under any circumstances, might be written quite awesomely.  Depends on the circumstances.


Yeah, I was thinking of a "to the death" scenario.  If it were a standoff, with a peaceful resolution, I'd be fine.  But doing a Wrex-type thing where you must kill them if you don't do a quest or persuade them to your side would be too much for me. 

Eek, I need to think positive thoughts.  Imagining worst case scenarios isn't good for me.

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TeenZombie wrote...

Estelindis wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...
Although I wouldn't mind if Kaidan/Ashley were Spectres, I would just quit playing ME3 completely and uninstall it if I had to fight against Kaidan at any point. Full stop. The Virmire Survivor has been through enough, let them join the team and be a valuable member, please.

Agreed.  However, a situation where Shep had the opportunity to surrender, refusing to fight Ash/Kai under any circumstances, might be written quite awesomely.  Depends on the circumstances.


Yeah, I was thinking of a "to the death" scenario.  If it were a standoff, with a peaceful resolution, I'd be fine.  But doing a Wrex-type thing where you must kill them if you don't do a quest or persuade them to your side would be too much for me. 

Eek, I need to think positive thoughts.  Imagining worst case scenarios isn't good for me.

I agree with you all.  I wouldn't be able to kill Kaidan.  I'd have to go rogue before I'd do that.  A standoff would be okay if there's a good reason/resolution to it.

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I would hate Kaidan meeting Spetznas Shepard since he shoots first if someone gets any day.



If the VS tries to arrest you I can imagine cheating, and the Collector Base factoring in as well.

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I just want Kaidan on my squad so I can take him everywhere with me, like old times. And I don't want to wait half the game to get him either! No standoff. I'm ok with him appearing in some heroic way right when I need a little help though ;)

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I want him on the squad, too.

Watched the Horizon stuff a little again.  
I go from Damn!  He looks good in that armor
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Man all Horizon does is aggravate me.



I didnt really care for Horizon over much, and the email was kinda like ok so much concequences Bioware. Egads an email! I am feeling the effects of my choices!



If they do go this route in three I will seriously lose a lot of respect for Bioware.

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I liked the emails from people like Lizabeth from Feros. What much else can you do about them anyways? It was nice for some acknowledgment.

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I liked the emails from people like Lizabeth from Feros. What much else can you do about them anyways? It was nice for some acknowledgment.

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While some emails are nice, reducing everything besides the occasional chat with TIM to a text block that took an programmer five mintutes to make is bad.



The VS shows up for less than 4 minutes, and we get a dumb little email to make up for it. If I wasent RPing I would move on. Overall Bioware put effort in LEET Splosions over story.




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i still laugh that bioware's email communication is one-way.  my femshep cannot even reply to her mom let alone kaidan.

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I'm a spacer and I never got an email from mommyshepard :|

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Omgee!!!



I thought I would miss page 2000. Maybe I won't!



On ME3:

I will read spoilers and make sure that the game is to my liking before making a decision to purchase. I found ME2 to be quite a disappointment.


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Batteries wrote...
I'm a spacer and I never got an email from mommyshepard :|

that's odd.  did you do the mom mission in me1?

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fortunesque wrote...

Omgee!!!

I thought I would miss page 2000. Maybe I won't!

On ME3:
I will read spoilers and make sure that the game is to my liking before making a decision to purchase. I found ME2 to be quite a disappointment.


Onward, to 2000!

... I generally avoid spoilers like the plague, but I may be inclined to peek this time around.  I'm new to Bioware games, too.  I was excited, but that excitement is slowly bleeding away into cynicism.  :mellow:

But at least there's Kaidan.  ^_^

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FireEye wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Omgee!!!

I thought I would miss page 2000. Maybe I won't!

On ME3:
I will read spoilers and make sure that the game is to my liking before making a decision to purchase. I found ME2 to be quite a disappointment.


Onward, to 2000!

... I generally avoid spoilers like the plague, but I may be inclined to peek this time around.  I'm new to Bioware games, too.  I was excited, but that excitement is slowly bleeding away into cynicism.  :mellow:

But at least there's Kaidan.  ^_^

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ME1 was my first BW game. After ME2, I don't trust them because I'm not a long time customer. :P

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Jade5233 wrote...

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D'aww!  Pity there isn't a way to respond that way to him.  You can say those exact words to Carth and I think Alistair as well.

Yeah, but its more fun to rib Carth about it not being appropriate--even if you really like it.  I love Carth's playful flirtiness  Posted Image


That's actually not the conversation where the option comes up.  It's in the conversation where he apologizes for doubting you.

"Because you're an impressive and beautiful woman.  In some ways- good ways- you remind me of my wife, and I'd like to make things right between us."
"You think I'm beautiful?"

With Alistair, the option comes up in the "Lamppost in Winter" conversation if you pick the options right.

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FireEye wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Cypher0020 wrote...

well since Shepard is a spectre.... doesn't that defy all known military regs? Therefore.... their relationship would be ok, right?


Shepard, I think, can do whatever the hell she wants provided she doesn't go against the will of the Council.  The Normandy seems to be under Alliance lockdown, however (since Udina is the one to issue the lockdown order), and Kaidan still has to go where he's told by the Alliance.

So if the Alliance thought Kaidan was somehow weakening Shepard's resolve, they could reassign him and I doubt she could do anything about it.


She could say... "I want him back now!"  They would be forced to obey an order from her.  The only people who are allowed to not follow a command Shepard gives is the Council (obviously) and another Spectre.


Actually, thinking about it, I'm not sure she could.  She can balk at Alliance authority, but the Alliance can pull their support from under her, including her ship and crew.  Hackett makes it pretty clear that he still considers her one of theirs.  The only reason she has any sway with the Alliance outside her heroic reputation is because they want to keep her happy for political reasons.

She's in the balance - the Council want her because she's Alliance and the Alliance wants her because she's Council.  :huh:


But it was Udina that gave her the ship in the first place as the Human Ambassador, not as a represetative of the Alliance, which he isn't. 

The Alliance may pull their support, but Udina, let's face it, he is fickle.


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The Alliance isn't just the military, though. It's everything human in space.

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siriusrambles wrote...

Batteries wrote...
I'm a spacer and I never got an email from mommyshepard :|

that's odd.  did you do the mom mission in me1?


Yeah, it's probably just a bug.