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[Shenzi]

jillyfae wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Beta'ing LFW inspired it, Jilly.

As long as she is inspired by your suggestion, rather than actually illustrating the current chapter, that's ok.  

And, um... happy Jhosephine artwork to change the subject!

Did I hear someone say mention LFW update?

[Sialater]

jillyfae wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Beta'ing LFW inspired it, Jilly.

As long as she is inspired by your suggestion, rather than actually illustrating the current chapter, that's ok.  

And, um... happy Jhosephine artwork to change the subject!

Well, yes... let's not follow that scene exactly.  :innocent:

[Sialater]

Shenzi wrote...

jillyfae wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Beta'ing LFW inspired it, Jilly.

As long as she is inspired by your suggestion, rather than actually illustrating the current chapter, that's ok.  

And, um... happy Jhosephine artwork to change the subject!

Did I hear someone say mention LFW update?

Not quite there yet, Shenzi.

[jillyfae]

Sialater wrote...

Shenzi wrote...

Did I hear someone say mention LFW update?

Not quite there yet, Shenzi.

And, um, not really fluffly either.  Am debating adding a warning/author's note, since it's a bit of a change of pace.

[Shenzi]

jillyfae wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Shenzi wrote...

Did I hear someone say mention LFW update?

Not quite there yet, Shenzi.

And, um, not really fluffly either.  Am debating adding a warning/author's note, since it's a bit of a change of pace.

I did that for the one chapter in my fic that was completely non fluff although thinking about it I prolly should have added that note a few other places.

[Pacifien]

TeenZombie wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

So I have a couple links for a couple polls that Mondo47 set up after a discussion on demographics and love interests for Mass Effect. She posted the links earlier in the day. I thought I'd catch a few posters from later in the day.

Female Love Interests
Male Love Interests

I know they never can be completely accurate, but these results still fascinate me.  Not a single vote for Jacob from females over or under 25.  Are you listening, Bioware?  I would love to see a writer one day talk to the fans about what they thought of Jacob's romance, and whether they feel they made any mistakes or not.  Maybe they feel like they achieved exactly what they were going for??? 

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask the development team, and their hindsight impression of the Jacob romance is definitely one of them. I know they asked the women at Bioware for advice on certain aspects of the Garrus and Thane romances. Did they ask the women about Jacob? I am disappoint, women of Bioware.

One thing I am rather pleased to see with the poll is that, no matter what the forums at large might think, Kaidan's romance is popular.

[sagefic]

Batteries wrote...



I want my men Shep to be able to grow an awesome mullet like this. I mean, growing mullets is a sign of power. If my male Shep does this in front of the Reapers, they'll know not to screw with me.

this. mullets for power.

j4n3, i LOVE your meme. what paragon shep does for fun...lol. yes. yes, i think a paragon deserves a little nookie in her off time.

and re: the new polls - i find the age/sex differences different. not surprised, just...yeah. young men like tali. shocked! <--not really.

[Jade5233]

TeenZombie wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

So I have a couple links for a couple polls that Mondo47 set up after a discussion on demographics and love interests for Mass Effect. She posted the links earlier in the day. I thought I'd catch a few posters from later in the day.

Female Love Interests
Male Love Interests

I know they never can be completely accurate, but these results still fascinate me.  Not a single vote for Jacob from females over or under 25.  Are you listening, Bioware?  I would love to see a writer one day talk to the fans about what they thought of Jacob's romance, and whether they feel they made any mistakes or not.  Maybe they feel like they achieved exactly what they were going for??? 

Going off of this, I have a new question:  if the Kenneth romance option wasn't cut, and it did not affect Kaidan's picture and didn't give the Paramour achievement, would anyone here have tried it?  I have to admit that I'm curious.  I definitely wouldn't do it on my main Shepard, but if it had been done well, I would have been tempted on other characters.

Kenneth?  Oh.  No.  That would cause obvious problems with Gabby.  The fraternization thing is bad enough--let alone there being hard feelings among a crewmate about stealing a LI.

[syllogi]

Pacifien wrote...

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask the development team, and their hindsight impression of the Jacob romance is definitely one of them. I know they asked the women at Bioware for advice on certain aspects of the Garrus and Thane romances. Did they ask the women about Jacob? I am disappoint, women of Bioware.

One thing I am rather pleased to see with the poll is that, no matter what the forums at large might think, Kaidan's romance is popular.

What strikes me the most about the Jacob romance is that it's definitely all about *not* having a deep emotional connection.  The way Fem Shep acts makes it seem like a booty call, and then if you attempt to ask Jacob too many questions about himself, he pushes you away.  Then, if you reject him, he'll tell you he loves you, but then calls you a tease.  I can't speak for other women, but for me, it's not appealing.

As for Kaidan romance popularity, I tend to think that Kaidan fans came out of the woodwork after ME2 came out, both because there was so much hate on the forums directed towards him in the past, and we also took it for granted that he would have a decent role, even if he wasn't on the squad, before the second game came out.  Horizon was totally shocking to me, and I have no idea whether they plan to bring Kaidan back in a more satisfying way for ME3, so my only outlet for my frustration is posting here, and letting the devs know I care.

[Sialater]

TeenZombie wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask the development team, and their hindsight impression of the Jacob romance is definitely one of them. I know they asked the women at Bioware for advice on certain aspects of the Garrus and Thane romances. Did they ask the women about Jacob? I am disappoint, women of Bioware.

One thing I am rather pleased to see with the poll is that, no matter what the forums at large might think, Kaidan's romance is popular.

What strikes me the most about the Jacob romance is that it's definitely all about *not* having a deep emotional connection.  The way Fem Shep acts makes it seem like a booty call, and then if you attempt to ask Jacob too many questions about himself, he pushes you away.  Then, if you reject him, he'll tell you he loves you, but then calls you a tease.  I can't speak for other women, but for me, it's not appealing.

As for Kaidan romance popularity, I tend to think that Kaidan fans came out of the woodwork after ME2 came out, both because there was so much hate on the forums directed towards him in the past, and we also took it for granted that he would have a decent role, even if he wasn't on the squad, before the second game came out.  Horizon was totally shocking to me, and I have no idea whether they plan to bring Kaidan back in a more satisfying way for ME3, so my only outlet for my frustration is posting here, and letting the devs know I care.

He actually starts calling you a tease long before that.  Accuses you of pushing his buttons.  I mean, WTF?

I really hope Kaidan gets a better role in ME3.

[siriusrambles]

the only reason i sought out the kast was the lack of kaidan in me2. i had no idea his absence was even a possibility. i generally avoid spoilers. the game was a birthday gift and i was crushed when all i got was a poorly executed cameo. also, i was unaware his character was unpopular until i ventured out into the rest of the forum. that was an experience.

[goofygoff]

Catching up after another long weekend...  congrats on 2000!

Sialater wrote...

I updated Loved yesterday if anyone's still following Meghan.

*raises hand*

I just started reading it and am hooked!  I normally don't read fics in progress because so many of my past favorites went into permanent hiatus.  But I've been making a few exceptions lately. 



re: the cut Kenneth mini-romance

My single Shep would've been all over that accent.  My taken Sheps would've played matchmaker between him and Gabby.



re: polls/surveys

I never really put too much stock into the results on this site.  Once you go outside the forums, tastes and trends seem to vary much more widely.  For instance, none of my gamer friends IRL, and very few on other boards ever romanced Tali.  I also see a lot less Kaidan hatorade.



And this:



...has totally made my morning. 

Modifié par goofygoff, 27 juillet 2010 - 04:54 .

[jillyfae]

Sialater wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask the development team, and their hindsight impression of the Jacob romance is definitely one of them. I know they asked the women at Bioware for advice on certain aspects of the Garrus and Thane romances. Did they ask the women about Jacob? I am disappoint, women of Bioware.

One thing I am rather pleased to see with the poll is that, no matter what the forums at large might think, Kaidan's romance is popular.

What strikes me the most about the Jacob romance is that it's definitely all about *not* having a deep emotional connection.  The way Fem Shep acts makes it seem like a booty call, and then if you attempt to ask Jacob too many questions about himself, he pushes you away.  Then, if you reject him, he'll tell you he loves you, but then calls you a tease.  I can't speak for other women, but for me, it's not appealing.

As for Kaidan romance popularity, I tend to think that Kaidan fans came out of the woodwork after ME2 came out, both because there was so much hate on the forums directed towards him in the past, and we also took it for granted that he would have a decent role, even if he wasn't on the squad, before the second game came out.  Horizon was totally shocking to me, and I have no idea whether they plan to bring Kaidan back in a more satisfying way for ME3, so my only outlet for my frustration is posting here, and letting the devs know I care.

He actually starts calling you a tease long before that.  Accuses you of pushing his buttons.  I mean, WTF?

I really hope Kaidan gets a better role in ME3.

But she does push his buttons.  That's my first problem with the Jacob romance, and why it never got off the ground when I was playing.  With the skanky voice, and the "Mr Taylor ..." dialogue, and pushing when he implies he doesn't want to get involved with a teammate/commander, Shepard is forced to act in a very specific (frequently ooc for a lot of people) manner when dealing with Jacob.

Part of why the other romances in all their games are usually so good is the fact that they're open-ended enough to be interpreted to fit your character.  With Jacob, there's only one path, and it's an unpleasant, anti-alien, aggressive one.

[Sialater]

jillyfae wrote...

Sialater wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

I have a list of questions I'd love to ask the development team, and their hindsight impression of the Jacob romance is definitely one of them. I know they asked the women at Bioware for advice on certain aspects of the Garrus and Thane romances. Did they ask the women about Jacob? I am disappoint, women of Bioware.

One thing I am rather pleased to see with the poll is that, no matter what the forums at large might think, Kaidan's romance is popular.

What strikes me the most about the Jacob romance is that it's definitely all about *not* having a deep emotional connection.  The way Fem Shep acts makes it seem like a booty call, and then if you attempt to ask Jacob too many questions about himself, he pushes you away.  Then, if you reject him, he'll tell you he loves you, but then calls you a tease.  I can't speak for other women, but for me, it's not appealing.

As for Kaidan romance popularity, I tend to think that Kaidan fans came out of the woodwork after ME2 came out, both because there was so much hate on the forums directed towards him in the past, and we also took it for granted that he would have a decent role, even if he wasn't on the squad, before the second game came out.  Horizon was totally shocking to me, and I have no idea whether they plan to bring Kaidan back in a more satisfying way for ME3, so my only outlet for my frustration is posting here, and letting the devs know I care.

He actually starts calling you a tease long before that.  Accuses you of pushing his buttons.  I mean, WTF?

I really hope Kaidan gets a better role in ME3.

But she does push his buttons.  That's my first problem with the Jacob romance, and why it never got off the ground when I was playing.  With the skanky voice, and the "Mr Taylor ..." dialogue, and pushing when he implies he doesn't want to get involved with a teammate/commander, Shepard is forced to act in a very specific (frequently ooc for a lot of people) manner when dealing with Jacob.

Part of why the other romances in all their games are usually so good is the fact that they're open-ended enough to be interpreted to fit your character.  With Jacob, there's only one path, and it's an unpleasant, anti-alien, aggressive one.

Yeah, I could RP it for Meg for science, but only to a certain point.  The minute his feelings about Garrus came out, she'd dump him.  Nobody bad-mouths her pals.


Goofygoff:  Glad you like Loved.  I promise not to quit halfway.  The Muse isn't allowing it.  

Ok.. so not the muse.  MEGHAN isn't allowing it.  Pushy, crazy-assed Vanguard.

[sagefic]

So... not to ignore the *vital* importance of the LI polls (having written some polls myself, I am being somewhat self-effacing here), but whatever the ratio of likes to dislikes are, it seems to me that 2000+ pages has to count for something, right?

It's like the amazon.com problem. Sure, 50% of the people viewing this item (Kaidan) went off and got something else (Tali?) and 25% went to something other than that (Garrus?). But hey, if the reviews for the item are stellar, then it's still got a high rating, ya know? And no insult meant to Kaidan by comparing him to merchandise. Really...none at all.

So Kaidan may not be the favorite, but he's got DEVOTED fans, you know what I'm saying? Again, perhaps I'm the pollyanna here, but if they put in a Garrus and Tali romance in response to fan requests, then hopefully the ongoing support of Kaidan from his small but vocal fan club will mean something.

Modifié par sagequeen, 27 juillet 2010 - 05:09 .

[goofygoff]

Sialater wrote...

Goofygoff:  Glad you like Loved.  I promise not to quit halfway.  The Muse isn't allowing it.  

Ok.. so not the muse.  MEGHAN isn't allowing it.  Pushy, crazy-assed Vanguard.

Yay!   And I promise to leave a proper review once I'm all caught up. 

[Sialater]

goofygoff wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Goofygoff:  Glad you like Loved.  I promise not to quit halfway.  The Muse isn't allowing it.  

Ok.. so not the muse.  MEGHAN isn't allowing it.  Pushy, crazy-assed Vanguard.

Yay!   And I promise to leave a proper review once I'm all caught up. 

No worries.  You might also like A Paragon of Virtue, too. 

And yes, I'm working on an update for that, too.

[Cypher0020]

morning kaidanites! What's the topic for the day?

EDIT:  Can I submit this to KAST Fanfiction??  I wrote it....sorta a drabble ish.....will probably write a sequel

http://www.fanfictio...ll_That_We_Were

Modifié par Cypher0020, 27 juillet 2010 - 05:46 .

[siriusrambles]

hey cypher, fanfics are always welcome here and the topic is unclear at the moment. we tend to discuss more than one thing at a time.

[Jean]

Kioux wrote...

Morning...

@Bat: That actually made me laugh, and that though I haven't had any coffee yet. Not that I have an opinion on a Hawke VA but I am a Gordon Ramsey fan. While people consider him an a**... well maybe he is one but he seems to be honest for once and speaks his mind and opinion. Seems people are so shocked when the listen to him because nowadays everyone is used to get things wrapped in cotton wool.
He also seems to be very passionate about the things he does.
Anyway, if he was to ever appear as a VA I'd buy the game instantly, lol. Great, now I'm gonna watch an episode of KN. Stupid indoctrination...

*edit*
About Gin being able to be the voice actor... there is a reason I watch anime as originals with subtitles... *shudders*
*/edit*

Don't worry Kai... the big evil Gordon is not going to get more of my time than you. *shakes fist at muse* You hear that?

Well, he does nail the role of the guy. I watch Bleach in english when I can, but mostly stick with subs. Easier to find.

[Jean]

Jade5233 wrote...

Good Morning all
Wow a lot went on here last night.

@Kaidan as a vegetarian?  No way.  Wouldn't be able to keep up with the caloric demands, medically speaking.

Sorry for starting up the whole Horizon debate again right before going to bed.  I think I have this love/hate thing with the scene.  Currently I've been reading sage's FF and her Kaidan's being so....stubborn he's making me angry.  And down.
I always hate these parts in stories--where the lovers are emotionally separated like this.  Especially when the man is doing it for "the right reasons" in his own mind.
Edward leaves Bella--I still get mad over that one and don't like reading New Moon
Angel leaves Buffy--I never forgave him for it.  I like her better with Spike.
Jondalar won't make a committment to Aayla (Clan of the Cave Bear series--Mammoth Hunters)
Even in Austen:  Wentworth trying to go on with his life and rubbing Anne's nose in it (Persuasion--at least he's more coherent in his writing than Kaidan).  And Edmund wanting Fanny, having molded her personality to be a perfect compliment to his, but looking elsewhere.
And we have sooooo long before we get a resolution to this and no guarantee that its going to be a happy one.

Oz left Willow. That made me

[Cypher0020]

ok how do people write kaidan? I opt for the more emotional side, yet can be stern when it comes to his duties....



really want to write shepard and kaidan as parents though

[siriusrambles]

i'm not a writer so someone else will have to field that one. however, i will read anything you post.

[Sialater]

Cypher0020 wrote...

ok how do people write kaidan? I opt for the more emotional side, yet can be stern when it comes to his duties....

really want to write shepard and kaidan as parents though

Truthfully... I use my husband to fill in the blanks the writers give us in Kaidan's character. 

[Cypher0020]

see I feel I can never write him properly... I'm not a guy for one, and two I've never been in a relationship....so I have no idea how to write one...



I fail.