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[FireEye]

Gilsa wrote...

Pretty. 

[Giggles_Manically]

I am a guy, but outside of Wrex, and Garrus, Kaidain was my favourite.



I dont mind someone who isint "OMFG I IZ A BAMF" like in Gears or Halo. My first time in hearing Kaidan say "nope no big issues, no real personal problems, lm fine with aliens, and am a competent fighter who dosent brag about it."



I seriously wanted to give him a hug.

[fortunesque]

I hope we don't get a lot of Garrus and Tali in ME3...



I mean, I know people liked them and all but it'd be an absolute overdose. But they'll probably have a new squad with a few returns (most likely the ME1 LIs...)



But I'm guessing the "poster girl" will be a busty blonde.

[WhoKnew]

Batteries wrote...

Gilsa wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I facepalm when I read when people call Kaidan whiny/boring, but everyone is going to have what they like. I see plenty of women that call him Carth clone/whiny/emo/gay too. Maybe they're just more into the more outspoken bad boy type characters.

The most popular romantic interest for Dragon Age gets a lot of flak and he's a gentle soul like Kaidan is. Some guys can't really see his appeal, but I've seen a few of them change their minds when they follow along on his fan thread and agree to give him a chance. The biggest female supporter for a different male love interest has a nasty habit of shooting down Alistair in order to build up her preferred love interest. (The most interesting part is that both male love interests were written by the same writer.)  I think some of the bashing that Kaidan gets is mostly to get a reaction out of others or build up their own love interests. Kaidan is guaranteed to come back in ME3. The ME2 love interests ... who knows? I can understand why they'd want to bash down Kaidan in order to "convince" the developers to spend more energy on the ME2 ones instead.

Personally when ME3 comes out and all is finally revealed, I would not be surprised to see a few "I dumped him because of Horizon, omg" fans quietly redo some of their games so they can reunite with him in ME3 despite their public protesting. It'll be interesting when Bioware starts promoting ME3 in stages with reveal of new crew members. The gloves will really come off then because it's the point of no-return for all love interests. =p

Here's one of the screenshots I like with Kaidan. We just got out of the mako and the third party member was out of sight so it looked like it was just the two of them just appreciating the moment.

I thought that too when I started seeing all the hate on here. I wasn't too mad at Horizon, I thought it was done well despite crappy Shep responses. But I assume that if they do "character reveal" trailers for ME3, it'd be Ash in the promotions and the trailers. I'm curious who the poster girl will be this time around. Probably Tali, she never got a cover.

I'm just glad there's the talented people on DeviantArt so we can at least imagine Female Shepard got a look in on box art, action figures, merchandise and the like.

[WhoKnew]

FireEye wrote...

WhoKnew wrote...
Wearing a pillow, or the case? *is confused* Either way, I like it! 

Either way.  The pillow would simply make things... er... softer, oh god.  XD

Oh dear me. 

[fortunesque]

FireEye wrote...

WhoKnew wrote...
Wearing a pillow, or the case? *is confused* Either way, I like it! 

Either way.  The pillow would simply make things... er... softer, oh god.  XD

Softer =/= good 

[Sialater]

fortunesque wrote...

FireEye wrote...

WhoKnew wrote...
Wearing a pillow, or the case? *is confused* Either way, I like it! 

Either way.  The pillow would simply make things... er... softer, oh god.  XD

Softer =/= good 

A hard man is good to find.

Oh, look, I've found the gutter again!

[fortunesque]

Nice of you to visit us in the gutter, Sia. Could I interest you in some sticky buns?

[WhoKnew]

fortunesque wrote...

I hope we don't get a lot of Garrus and Tali in ME3...

I mean, I know people liked them and all but it'd be an absolute overdose. But they'll probably have a new squad with a few returns (most likely the ME1 LIs...)

But I'm guessing the "poster girl" will be a busty blonde.

Yeah, I liked having some familiarity in ME2, even if I didn't really take much notice of Garrus is ME1. I agree, though. Having Garrus and Tali as the only returning ME1 characters in the next game would be overkill. I mean, they're cool and everything but we had the "omg, we're reunited, you're from Mass Effect" moment, but I think our proper VS return is long overdue. *checks watch*

Speaking of the busty blonde, they were going to make Miranda a blonde in the first place, to complete that, and I quote, "femme fatale look". I really hope BW don't feel the need to cater to their target audience of horny teenage boys for once and throw us a bone. 

No puns intended. 

[WhoKnew]

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

FireEye wrote...

WhoKnew wrote...
Wearing a pillow, or the case? *is confused* Either way, I like it! 

Either way.  The pillow would simply make things... er... softer, oh god.  XD

Softer =/= good 

A hard man is good to find.

Oh, look, I've found the gutter again!

Oh, gutter; there you are again.

*sings* Everybody's talking at me. I don't hear a word they're saying, only the echoes of my mind.

[Sialater]

fortunesque wrote...

Nice of you to visit us in the gutter, Sia. Could I interest you in some sticky buns?

Depends... whose buns are sticky and with what?


(Quit looking at me like that, it's a valid question.)

[fortunesque]

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Nice of you to visit us in the gutter, Sia. Could I interest you in some sticky buns?

Depends... whose buns are sticky and with what?


(Quit looking at me like that, it's a valid question.)

Uhhh workout sweat?

Have a grab!

[chem light]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I am a guy, but outside of Wrex, and Garrus, Kaidain was my favourite.

I dont mind someone who isint "OMFG I IZ A BAMF" like in Gears or Halo. My first time in hearing Kaidan say "nope no big issues, no real personal problems, lm fine with aliens, and am a competent fighter who dosent brag about it."

I seriously wanted to give him a hug.

Well actually, even John 117, if you read the Halo novelizations (the ones by Eric Nylend are especially good), doesn't think he's anything special, despite the fact that he is.  He's just a good solider doing his job.  One of the reasons I hapen to like him and all the Spartans really. 

Gears, I actually never finished.  I was really shaky with the plot and what the hell was going on and then had the sudden urge to buy some extra bottles of Raid.  

[siriusrambles]

sticky buns are delicious. especially the nuts.

[fortunesque]

siriusrambles wrote...

sticky buns are delicious. especially the nuts.

I must not say that which I wish to say. 

[WhoKnew]

siriusrambles wrote...

sticky buns are delicious. especially the nuts.

*cough* I have...no answer. 

I prefer iced buns...om nom nom. Same thing really except different...flavour? 

[chem light]

*facepalms and slips on waders* I don't know why I ever take these things off in here.

[FireEye]

So if cheating on Kaidan/Ash/Liara garnered an extra bit of dialogue or confrontation cutscene something, but nevertheless allowed you to rekindle the romance... how many people would do it?



For the observer's drama, or because you wanted to get into [ME2 LI]'s pants, or...? *curious*

[chem light]

FireEye wrote...

So if cheating on Kaidan/Ash/Liara garnered an extra bit of dialogue or confrontation cutscene something, but nevertheless allowed you to rekindle the romance... how many people would do it?

For the observer's drama, or because you wanted to get into [ME2 LI]'s pants, or...? *curious*

I still vote the cheaters don't get ME3 love from ME1 LI.  It's evident from their Horizon dialogue and their emails that neither took your death well and neither moved on.  If they could wait for you for two years without even knowing your were coming back, what kinda lover are you to jump in the sack with someone after what, to you, only seems a few months.

Shep may want to rekindle but I think both the VS hold themselves in too high a regard to allow themselves to be treated like that. 

Modifié par chem light, 01 août 2010 - 10:00 .

[Collider]

siriusrambles wrote...

Collider wrote...
I don't think the lack of popularity among male fans has to do with Kaidan being mature. I do like Kaidan partly for that, though. I think more than anything, it has to do with the relative lack of friendship with Kaidan for Male Shepards and that his stories about jump zero did not resonate with them.

most of the kaidan hate on this forum is irrational and hardly ever comes from guys that find his friendship dialogue with maleshep lacking substance. 

They don't say that it's the friendship thing, but I think it's part of it. It's sometimes easier to like a character if you feel like they're Shepard's friend. People for example liked that Wrex was their friend or comrade in ME1. The friendship dynamic adds an extra layer to the conversations you have with the squad mates. The principal criticism that Kaidan gets was that he was not exciting or intriguing enough if you don't romance him.

[Jade5233]

FireEye wrote...

So if cheating on Kaidan/Ash/Liara garnered an extra bit of dialogue or confrontation cutscene something, but nevertheless allowed you to rekindle the romance... how many people would do it?

For the observer's drama, or because you wanted to get into [ME2 LI]'s pants, or...? *curious*

I have a faithful Shepard (Kimbri) and am going to start ME2 again with my second character (Kara) who is going to be hurt by Horizon and look for comfort.  (1st playthrough Garrus, 2nd Thane probably--not Jacob).
I figured I would like to see how that changes the dynamic with Kaidan in ME3.

@ Batteries:  I like and agree with your assessment on the previous page

Modifié par Jade5233, 01 août 2010 - 10:05 .

[FireEye]

Collider wrote...

The principal criticism that Kaidan gets was that he was not exciting or intriguing enough if you don't romance him.

But he wants to use dangerous explosives as handwarmers on Noveria.  How is that not exciting, even if it must be in a friendly sort of way? 

[NICKjnp]

Batteries wrote...

NICKjnp wrote...

Miranda and Jacob both know what Cerberus is all about and everyone knows that Cerberus is a terrorist organization bent on dominating or destroying aliens. It is common knowledge in ME: Retribution.... it was the reason the Turians were opposed to letting Humans join the council. It is also probably the reason the Turian councilor is such a dick to Shepard. The only reason that Miranda and Jacob get to live is because Jacob doesn't really trust TIM and Miranda says "I quit" when he tries to get her to save the base.

You know, I have a bit of a hard time believing at least one other species doesn't have an orginization similar to Cerberus. You have STG who nearly sterilized another species, but nobody sees to put much into that.
But this is Kaidan's thread and being lectured again isn't on my list for today, so here:

As Shepard tells Miranda... those organizations are run by their governments.  Cerberus is run by TIM and only TIM.

[Gilsa]

FireEye wrote...

So if cheating on Kaidan/Ash/Liara garnered an extra bit of dialogue or confrontation cutscene something, but nevertheless allowed you to rekindle the romance... how many people would do it?

For the observer's drama, or because you wanted to get into [ME2 LI]'s pants, or...? *curious*

If I were to cheat on Kaidan, it would be with Garrus and I don't think I could stand to break Garrus' heart just to return to Kaidan. I'd just wait for other people to do it and put the results up on youtube so I can watch from a distance. =p

Now that I think about it, it would be worse if I broke up with Thane to return to Kaidan because he's a dying man. He doesn't need any more heartbreak. Fortuntately for him, I have a different Shepard that is devoted to him.

[Collider]

FireEye wrote...

Collider wrote...

The principal criticism that Kaidan gets was that he was not exciting or intriguing enough if you don't romance him.

But he wants to use dangerous explosives as handwarmers on Noveria.  How is that not exciting, even if it must be in a friendly sort of way? 

I agree, it is very exciting.