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[sapphyreelf]

I really didn't have Kaidan in mind when I made my main Shepard. I had a particular look I wanted for the character, and that was really the only thing I worried about.

[Sialater]

I made Meghan to contrast with him. I was also tired of playing red-heads at that point. So I went platinum blonde.



Avery I made because I was still in mourning for my MainShep Jillian, may she RIP in the RROD Graveyard. Avery was supposed to be the opposite, physically, of everything Jillian was. And she was.

[sagefic]

AkodoRyu wrote...

@Sage: I dunno... I think I like her with those short hair.

it's growing on me, too. but then, so did the bald look.

Jade5233 wrote...


I think the contrast of fair complexion and blond and pale eyes are nice against Kaidan's tall dark and handsome looks.

i think kaidan looks good in black and white, as we saw with this:



so things that fit that color scheme look good...um...against him? 

but again, that's just my personal take. i went with a shep that i liked the look of and it seemed to fit her personality and her personality seemed to fit with falling for kaidan.

with that said though, i too, hate the choices for blonde in the game. BW games typically have a blond and then red and no range inbetween. i wanted a red-blonde, so i changed the color with the gibbed editor.



not sure if you can tell, but that color there has been shifted about 1/4 of the way between the game blond and the first shade of game red.

Modifié par sagequeen, 10 août 2010 - 02:15 .

[Joisan]

Hey Sia... just FYI, I'm about to post ch. 9 in the Beta thread. If you have a moment, I would love if you could give your feedback for me to look at when I get home from work.

[Brijenieve]

New post and poll at the writer's block.  

http://writersblockf...n.blogspot.com/

Modifié par Brijenieve, 10 août 2010 - 03:41 .

[sagefic]

ha, just must share:

kyrie shep's face when kelly starts making observations about the sexiness of other LIs on the ship:



not bashing, i swear, thane rocks and all. i was just amused that my shep avatar had this reaction. i wanted to be able to have her say to kelly's "do you like bad boys, commander?"

"ummm... define 'bad'..."



"does breaking regs count?" :innocent:

[Jade5233]

sagequeen wrote...

ha, just must share:

kyrie shep's face when kelly starts making observations about the sexiness of other LIs on the ship:



not bashing, i swear, thane rocks and all. i was just amused that my shep avatar had this reaction. i wanted to be able to have her say to kelly's "do you like bad boys, commander?"

"ummm... define 'bad'..."



"does breaking regs count?" :innocent:

Nope.  Kaidan's not a bad boy.  But he's a bad a** in battle. 
And the Thane convo face is funny.  Although if there were not Kaidan, I'd have a Shep go for Thane.

Just listened to an old podcast with Christina discussing ME2 (CAG?).  Crud!  I didn't realize that ALL of the choices that you make in DA and ME/ME2 are uploaded to BW for statistical analysis.  I was planning on making my sheps that do the romance with Thane and Garrus in ME2, but I don't want to FUBAR Kaidan's stats--of how well people stay true to him. 
But I also can't play through ME1 and not romance him.  Its just not possible.  He's too charming.

[siriusrambles]

Jade5233 wrote...
Nope.  Kaidan's not a bad boy.  But he's a bad a** in battle bed. 

fixed it for you.

and i'm not getting the paramour acheivement in me2.  i'm unsure what effect that statistical data will have on the kaidan romance.

[Reverie]

Jade5233 wrote...

Just listened to an old podcast with Christina discussing ME2 (CAG?).  Crud!  I didn't realize that ALL of the choices that you make in DA and ME/ME2 are uploaded to BW for statistical analysis.  I was planning on making my sheps that do the romance with Thane and Garrus in ME2, but I don't want to FUBAR Kaidan's stats--of how well people stay true to him. 
But I also can't play through ME1 and not romance him.  Its just not possible.  He's too charming.

I've heard about that before. how does that really work? I'm not the only one playing ME2 in this household. My siblings are too. So practically all romances have been tried out. Plus I'm the only one who likes Kaidan.

[Sialater]

That's ridiculous that they're looking for data like that. I play on a 360 and my gaming account isn't even the one that connects if and when we log on to the Cerberus Network. We don't even play on the online account.

[fortunesque]

I know. They use the statistical data to try to determine what choices most people make, presumably so that they can make the game around those choices.



That's why I haven't gotten the Paramour achievement in ME2. I refuse to add to those statistics when my game choices are already in the minority.

[Jade5233]

@sirius:  Thanks.  I think he's both. 

Reverie wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

Just listened to an old podcast with Christina discussing ME2 (CAG?).  Crud!  I didn't realize that ALL of the choices that you make in DA and ME/ME2 are uploaded to BW for statistical analysis.  I was planning on making my sheps that do the romance with Thane and Garrus in ME2, but I don't want to FUBAR Kaidan's stats--of how well people stay true to him. 
But I also can't play through ME1 and not romance him.  Its just not possible.  He's too charming.

I've heard about that before. how does that really work? I'm not the only one playing ME2 in this household. My siblings are too. So practically all romances have been tried out. Plus I'm the only one who likes Kaidan.

I don't know how that works exactly.  But they get raw data of how many people make decisions.  I'm sure they know that multiple people will play differently on multiple playthroughs.  So they expect that.
I just was working on maxing out my Kara Shepard to do the "cheat" in ME2.  But (and I don't know if it goes into this detail) if it logs that I romanced Kaidan with that character in ME1 AND then cheated on him--I don't want them to get that info.  I'll hold onto that save and do it after ME3 is close to done I guess.

I aske my hubby if I could "cheat" on his account.  He said no. 
*Sigh*  I guess I'll start new characters in ME2 that haven't been with Kaidan to play the game with 2 of the LI's.  Then it will have the least chance of reflecting badly upon him.  Horizon will be different, though.  Don't quite know how I feel about that.  *shrugs*

But I also heard about this on the podcast--that you can put a code into the character creator on ME2 to make them look a certain way.  There is a site here:  http://www.masseffect2faces.com/
It has a database of user created faces.  I hope it works on Xbox, too.  I found a Kara Thrace, Kate Beckensale, and Cate Blanchett that I wouldn't mind trying if I have to go from scratch in ME2.

[Fiannawolf]

I wonder if that data will be used to see which ME2 crewmates get a NPC slot compared to a sqade slot again. Hmmm or maybe its just to see how people played so they can refine skills/classes. I cant see them using it to effect the next game's story on a massive scale. Mainly cause not all people who bought 2 use xbox live or windows live.

[Jade5233]

fortunesque wrote...

I know. They use the statistical data to try to determine what choices most people make, presumably so that they can make the game around those choices.

That's why I haven't gotten the Paramour achievement in ME2. I refuse to add to those statistics when my game choices are already in the minority.

Now that I think of it, there is supposed to be a way in "options" to turn off that data mining.  I'll look into it and report back...

[sagefic]

that's completely absurd. i would seriously like to think that they realize that paramour achievement does not = "I hate the ME1 romances"

seriously. multiple accounts? multiple characters? geez, just do an official poll and you will see that while Tali WILL win, many people still adore ashley and kaidan and most of all, liara. and even if no one liked them, for the sake of the writing, it only makes sense to complete those romances in a satisfactory way.

i still feel that if they've been taking any cue from the fan threads, they will see that there are plenty of people who still want to see kaidan/ash/liara work out.

Modifié par sagequeen, 10 août 2010 - 05:36 .

[sapphyreelf]

A non-romanced Kaidan at Horizon is just as painful to sit through. I currently am playing a single femShepard that just did Horizon. He quirked an awesome little half smile before he shook my hand. Then he was all mean, angry Kaidan.

[syllogi]

Jade5233 wrote...
Nope.  Kaidan's not a bad boy.  But he's a bad a** in battle. 
And the Thane convo face is funny.  Although if there were not Kaidan, I'd have a Shep go for Thane.

Just listened to an old podcast with Christina discussing ME2 (CAG?).  Crud!  I didn't realize that ALL of the choices that you make in DA and ME/ME2 are uploaded to BW for statistical analysis.  I was planning on making my sheps that do the romance with Thane and Garrus in ME2, but I don't want to FUBAR Kaidan's stats--of how well people stay true to him. 
But I also can't play through ME1 and not romance him.  Its just not possible.  He's too charming.

Yeah, when I first read a Casey Hudson quote about how all of our choices will become statistics, I was extremely annoyed, but people said to wait for clarification.  There has never been any kind of explanation about exactly what statistics they would be looking at, or what they would do with them.

So, because I am a rabid, unreasonable, fanatical Kaidan lover (), I'm not going to get the Paramour achievement on any of my characters, possibly ever, but definitely not before they announce that Kaidan will be a squadmate in ME3, because I don't want to contribute in any way to Bioware perceiving that people who try the ME2 romances preferred them over their ME1 LIs. 

While it's not a huge loss, it does annoy me somewhat, that they possibly could see someone romancing Jacob as a goof as proof that most players have "moved on" from Kaidan.  Hmph.

[sagefic]

well heck! even if you DID move on, many people who did totally want to see a confrontation scene. and those who "friended" the me1 LIs want them around. just...whatever. i would like to think that the people who wrote such a complex, interesting, and hilarious game would have the good sense to see that a simple data mine taken at random will *not* give them all the facts. then again, i *didn't* shove a gun in conrad's face, and yet the man seems to think kyrie did.



what is it? "there are lies, damn lies, and statistics"?

[sapphyreelf]

They've admitted that there is a bug with Conrad. I've gotten him to say both the Paragon and Renegade action to the same Shepard, but he defaults to the gun line as his starting line.

I personally think it is less likely that BW is using these statistics to purposefully marginalize Kaidan, Ashley or Liara. I think if they are using "cheating" statistics for anything, it is to find out the % to see if it is a waste of resources to do a confrontation scene.

That's my personal opinion though.

[Reverie]

And I just finished a playthrough where she went for *ahem* Garrus. It's the only playthrough she's ever "cheated" dammit.

[Jade5233]

Okay.  The podcast was right.  There is a way to shut it off for your account.
On the ME2 menu screen go:
"Extras" -> "Options" -> "Online" -> "Upload Gameplay Feedback" -> NO
I would assume they put that as an option due to privacy laws.
Ha!  That's what I'll do then.  They already have my Kaidan faithful Shep uploaded to them.  And I'll keep the option on "no" for the rest.  I feel better now. 

Modifié par Jade5233, 10 août 2010 - 05:51 .

[Fiannawolf]

What are the paragon lines with conrad???

[sagefic]

sapphyreelf wrote...

They've admitted that there is a bug with Conrad. I've gotten him to say both the Paragon and Renegade action to the same Shepard, but he defaults to the gun line as his starting line.
I personally think it is less likely that BW is using these statistics to purposefully marginalize Kaidan, Ashley or Liara. I think if they are using "cheating" statistics for anything, it is to find out the % to see if it is a waste of resources to do a confrontation scene.
That's my personal opinion though.

yeah. i think so.  and while i don't think any import of mine will give kaidan any reason for it, i think there's enough fan base to warrant one. i don't want to see it, but then, i didn't want to see jacob's abs, either. (no offense jacob. i'm sure they're lovely)

screenshot break:



Kaidan: Commander? Why are we both holding assault rifles? You're an adept, I'm a sentinel. Shouldn't we just stick to the pistols and the biotics?

Shepard: You're right. Screw cut-scene weaponry. Let's see what we can loot from these dead colonists.

Kaidan: I thought you were a colonist.

Shepard: I was.

Kaidan: ....



Kaidan: Wait, commander... How come I got the droopy-looking pistol?

Shepard: Just stick it up, lieutenant.

Kaidan: *coughs*

Shepard: *fights a grin*

Kaidan: ....

[fortunesque]

I'll allow my stuff to continue to be uploaded because the new LIs don't interest me anyway. It just fries me that people would play differently if they knew it could count against them and many of those folks don't know any better that their stats are counting against them.



Kinda' sucks >.>

[syllogi]

Jade5233 wrote...

Okay.  The podcast was right.  There is a way to shut it off for your account.
On the menu screen go:
"Options" -> "Online" -> "Upload Gameplay Feedback" -> NO
I would assume they put that as an option due to privacy laws.
Ha!  That's what I'll do then.  They already have my Kaidan faithful Shep uploaded to them.  And I'll keep the option on "no" for the rest.  I feel better now. 

Is that just for the Xbox, or for PCs too?  I'll have to check that out when I get home.

I don't necessarily think that anything bad will happen to any of the love interests in ME3 just because of statistics (as people have said, if even one person enjoyed a certain love interest, it wouldn't be fair to cut them out or not give that player the possibility of a happy ending), but the lack of information about what they'll use it for makes me cautious. 

I would be very annoyed if Casey Hudson gave interviews after ME3 came out saying that statistics from ME2 shaped the storyline.  Good writing should not depend on consumer surveys.