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[Doug84]

Alice829 wrote...

And one more thing...
Who is trying to kill Shepard when she first wakes up at the beginning of ME2? Yes, Wilson was a traitor, but who was he working for? The Shadow Broker? How would anyone even know about Shepard? Unless I missed it, this is never explained.

True, that one isn't explained - either they plan to explain it in ME3 or they are going to leave it mysterious - I suspect TSB like you say, or failing that the Collectors have learned of Shep's rebirth and sent Wilson an offer to have Shep killed.

Failing that, it could be one of any number of groups Shep peeded off in ME1.

[Jhourney]

Sialater wrote...

I kinda like the idea of Joker or Chakwas being a mole... 

Same here. Though if it's Joker, I wanna go play Whack a Mole at some point when he's being an ass

[Sialater]

Well, who was gonna buy her from the prison Purgatory?



Apparently, Shep's so hot, mysterious people all over the galaxy are trying to their hands on her bod.

[Sialater]

Jhosephine wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I kinda like the idea of Joker or Chakwas being a mole... 

Same here. Though if it's Joker, I wanna go play Whack a Mole at some point when he's being an ass

I dunno.  ME2 has me seeing conspiracies all over the place in this game.  Makes me wonder if I have a "Sidonis" on my supposedly completely loyal command team.

[sapphyreelf]

Sialater wrote...

Well, who was gonna buy her from the prison Purgatory?

Apparently, Shep's so hot, mysterious people all over the galaxy are trying to their hands on her bod.

Obviously, the Turian warden caught whiff of those pheremones that Cerberus installed.

[Jhourney]

Ugh, so many questions. Well I'm getting hungry need food....and nekkid Kaidan...



*sighs happily and goes to make dinner*

Modifié par Jhosephine, 01 mars 2010 - 05:08 .

[Doug84]

RedNanaki wrote...

As for the Reapers, I really doubt they are simply just evil. They probably have some other goal aside from making more of themselves that we'll figure out in ME3. Maybe they're actually trying to save the galaxy/universe for all we know. There will probably be some reveal about why Ash/Kai's files are so classified,. and hopefully more about the Illusive Man as well. Maybe he is Armistan Banes? *gasp* I really have no clue.

I think its a religion thing, of sorts. They want 'perfection' - they believe they are the end result of evolution - perfect, immortal, endless.

I think they believe that the best organic civilizations should be saved - if a civilization proves itself to the Reapers, like humanity did, they get the 'honour' of ascention to Godhood. They believe that anything less than a Reaper is merely a temporary construct, be it an organic or a whole civilization of organics. But 'ascending' the best, they preserve the what they consider to be good from the enthropy of the Universe itself.

Of course, as the fangirls here will tell you, they need not bother - for the Biotic God Kaidan is here already *no ****** on my part*

[fortunesque]

Morning, all!



True story: I was trying to get caught up here and fill my bathtub up. When I returned to the bathroom, the bathtub was completely full and lukewarm. *sigh*

[RedNanaki]

Doug84 wrote...

I think its a religion thing, of sorts. They want 'perfection' - they believe they are the end result of evolution - perfect, immortal, endless.

I think they believe that the best organic civilizations should be saved - if a civilization proves itself to the Reapers, like humanity did, they get the 'honour' of ascention to Godhood. They believe that anything less than a Reaper is merely a temporary construct, be it an organic or a whole civilization of organics. But 'ascending' the best, they preserve the what they consider to be good from the enthropy of the Universe itself.

That's very plausible, but can't help this major-plot-reveal-incoming-that-turns-the-tables-and-forces-you-to-choose-between-good/evil-ending vibe. It's just BioWare's style. Maybe it's not about the Reapers though... Now I'm worried.

[Mrs Templar]

Doug84 wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And one more thing...
Who is trying to kill Shepard when she first wakes up at the beginning of ME2? Yes, Wilson was a traitor, but who was he working for? The Shadow Broker? How would anyone even know about Shepard? Unless I missed it, this is never explained.

True, that one isn't explained - either they plan to explain it in ME3 or they are going to leave it mysterious - I suspect TSB like you say, or failing that the Collectors have learned of Shep's rebirth and sent Wilson an offer to have Shep killed.

Failing that, it could be one of any number of groups Shep peeded off in ME1.

If Miranda just hadn't killed Wilson maybe we could have gotten some answers out of him.  You would think Cerberus would have preferred to know who he was working for and if he was the only traitor in their midst.  

[Tatooine92]

Mrs Templar wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And one more thing...
Who is trying to kill Shepard when she first wakes up at the beginning of ME2? Yes, Wilson was a traitor, but who was he working for? The Shadow Broker? How would anyone even know about Shepard? Unless I missed it, this is never explained.

True, that one isn't explained - either they plan to explain it in ME3 or they are going to leave it mysterious - I suspect TSB like you say, or failing that the Collectors have learned of Shep's rebirth and sent Wilson an offer to have Shep killed.

Failing that, it could be one of any number of groups Shep peeded off in ME1.

If Miranda just hadn't killed Wilson maybe we could have gotten some answers out of him.  You would think Cerberus would have preferred to know who he was working for and if he was the only traitor in their midst.  

Yeah.  I was a bit miffed at her for that.  She handled that so well... <_<

[Doug84]

Tatooine92 wrote...

Mrs Templar wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And one more thing...
Who is trying to kill Shepard when she first wakes up at the beginning of ME2? Yes, Wilson was a traitor, but who was he working for? The Shadow Broker? How would anyone even know about Shepard? Unless I missed it, this is never explained.

True, that one isn't explained - either they plan to explain it in ME3 or they are going to leave it mysterious - I suspect TSB like you say, or failing that the Collectors have learned of Shep's rebirth and sent Wilson an offer to have Shep killed.

Failing that, it could be one of any number of groups Shep peeded off in ME1.

If Miranda just hadn't killed Wilson maybe we could have gotten some answers out of him.  You would think Cerberus would have preferred to know who he was working for and if he was the only traitor in their midst.  

Yeah.  I was a bit miffed at her for that.  She handled that so well... <_<

Well, Miranda could be a triple agent... or maybe she didn't trust that having a known traitor onboard a small, easily sabotaged shuttle was a good idea

[Mrs Templar]

fortunesque wrote...

Morning, all!

True story: I was trying to get caught up here and fill my bathtub up. When I returned to the bathroom, the bathtub was completely full and lukewarm. *sigh*

Sorry to hear that 

[Sialater]

Doug 84 wrote:

Well, Miranda could be a triple agent... or maybe she didn't trust that having a known traitor onboard a small, easily sabotaged shuttle was a good idea.

That was probably the full reason. Also, she was probably pissed. He did sick a legion of mechs on her overly shapely ass.

Modifié par Sialater, 01 mars 2010 - 05:29 .

[RedNanaki]

Mrs Templar wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And one more thing...
Who is trying to kill Shepard when she first wakes up at the beginning of ME2? Yes, Wilson was a traitor, but who was he working for? The Shadow Broker? How would anyone even know about Shepard? Unless I missed it, this is never explained.

True, that one isn't explained - either they plan to explain it in ME3 or they are going to leave it mysterious - I suspect TSB like you say, or failing that the Collectors have learned of Shep's rebirth and sent Wilson an offer to have Shep killed.

Failing that, it could be one of any number of groups Shep peeded off in ME1.

If Miranda just hadn't killed Wilson maybe we could have gotten some answers out of him.  You would think Cerberus would have preferred to know who he was working for and if he was the only traitor in their midst.  

TIM did say he was going to try and make sure Wilson was the only mole. Most arrows do indeed point to the Shadow Broker as his buyer considering the potential value of Shepard, and the Shadow Broker already had her once.
Don't really know the details of the whole Redemption storyline... think this is the gist of it:
Liara looks for Shepard with friend, figures out the Shadow Broker recovered the body, co-operates with Cerberus, friend dies somewhere along the way and she lets Cerberus take Shepard in order to save her. Now she wants to smack the Shadow Broker for her friend's death and for Shepard.

[Mrs Templar]

Doug84 wrote...

Tatooine92 wrote...

Mrs Templar wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And one more thing...
Who is trying to kill Shepard when she first wakes up at the beginning of ME2? Yes, Wilson was a traitor, but who was he working for? The Shadow Broker? How would anyone even know about Shepard? Unless I missed it, this is never explained.

True, that one isn't explained - either they plan to explain it in ME3 or they are going to leave it mysterious - I suspect TSB like you say, or failing that the Collectors have learned of Shep's rebirth and sent Wilson an offer to have Shep killed.

Failing that, it could be one of any number of groups Shep peeded off in ME1.

If Miranda just hadn't killed Wilson maybe we could have gotten some answers out of him.  You would think Cerberus would have preferred to know who he was working for and if he was the only traitor in their midst.  

Yeah.  I was a bit miffed at her for that.  She handled that so well... <_<

Well, Miranda could be a triple agent... or maybe she didn't trust that having a known traitor onboard a small, easily sabotaged shuttle was a good idea

You would think Miranda could have handled securing one wimpy prisoner, after all didn't she spend half the game stating how perfect and completely awesome she was  

[Tatooine92]

Sialater wrote...

Doug 84 wrote:

Well, Miranda could be a triple agent... or maybe she didn't trust that having a known traitor onboard a small, easily sabotaged shuttle was a good idea.

That was probably the full reason. Also, she was probably pissed. He did sick a legion of mechs on her overly shapely ass.

Triple agent!  That's a new suggestion.  Could work...  There's still a part of my brain that says TIM is working with the Collectors/Reapers because he knew precisely where to get Shepard.  I'm sure he could've caught the distress beacon and just scooted out there to clean up, but he knew where to go awfully fast.  Not to mention, how did he know the death rumors weren't mere rumors to begin with?  TIM, I'm a paranoid Paragon and I'm onto you.

[BECC4]

*Runs in breathlessly*

Hi! *waves*

Kaidan is super HAWT!!!!!!!!!!

Too much to read, not enough time! Love ya all NH, will be back after I've exercised my lazy ass!

*Runs out again feeling a bit like the Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland* 

[Doug84]

BECC4 wrote...

*Runs in breathlessly*

Hi! *waves*

Kaidan is super HAWT!!!!!!!!!!

Too much to read, not enough time! Love ya all NH, will be back after I've exercised my lazy ass!

*Runs out again feeling a bit like the Rabbit from Alice in Wonderland* 

*hugs quickly before escape occurs* Welcome back! And enjoy your exercise!

[The Angry One]

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.

TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.

Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.

[Doug84]

The Angry One wrote...

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.

"This one is old, rich, and insane. It does not need to make logical sense."

[sapphyreelf]

The Angry One wrote...

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.

I'm likely to agree with this.
Not only does it just sound like something TIM would do, but he also would accomplish two other things:

1) Complete a field test of Shepard's physical skills.
2) Create a situation that would force Shepard to trust his hand selected operatives for the mission. (After all, you end up trusting Jacob and Miranda to some extent to save your life when you wake up.)

[Doug84]

sapphyreelf wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.

I'm likely to agree with this.
Not only does it just sound like something TIM would do, but he also would accomplish two other things:

1) Complete a field test of Shepard's physical skills.
2) Create a situation that would force Shepard to trust his hand selected operatives for the mission. (After all, you end up trusting Jacob and Miranda to some extent to save your life when you wake up.)

You know... when you put it like that, it does sound like something he'd do.

[RyrineaNara]

I too thought, it might have been tim that had paid off Wilson. It seems to fit with him putting me in harms way even, if I coast them 4 billon credits to rebuild.

[Darazelly]

sapphyreelf wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.

I'm likely to agree with this.
Not only does it just sound like something TIM would do, but he also would accomplish two other things:

1) Complete a field test of Shepard's physical skills.
2) Create a situation that would force Shepard to trust his hand selected operatives for the mission. (After all, you end up trusting Jacob and Miranda to some extent to save your life when you wake up.)

Okay, I agree with that theory.