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sapphyreelf wrote...

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Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.


I'm likely to agree with this.
Not only does it just sound like something TIM would do, but he also would accomplish two other things:

1) Complete a field test of Shepard's physical skills.
2) Create a situation that would force Shepard to trust his hand selected operatives for the mission. (After all, you end up trusting Jacob and Miranda to some extent to save your life when you wake up.)



So.... Shep is RE3's Alice? 

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I didn't play RE3, so I can't comment if that's the same scenario.

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Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?

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Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


With a mixture of hate and appreciation...

Hate for Cerberus's evil experiments and Anti-Alien actions/views.

Appreciation for returning Shepard to life.

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Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


TIM is the one guy that I can see pissing Kaidan off to the degree that he'd start yelling. He'd be horrified and very pissed off that TIM led Shepard into a trap on the Collector ship.

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I imagine Kaidan would be livid with TIM, especially if Shep gives him the Collector base.

Kaidan may consider that a sign that Shep is under TIM's thumb.

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sapphyreelf wrote...

I didn't play RE3, so I can't comment if that's the same scenario.



The movie.  Not the game.  I've only ever played RE4 and RE5.  (And Kaiden had better not end up like Olivera.)





Fortunesque:  Just had to tell you, "Parallax" is hysterically funny.  I'm loving it!

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Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


T.I.M.: Ah, Commander Alenko. How nice to finally meet-

There is a biotic *thwap* sound. T.I.M. and his cigar sail gracefully into the air and off the edge of that platform into that handy, hot sun.

Kaidan: Nice to finally meet you too.

-

Okay, so no, I don't really think he'd do it, unless maybe you'd renegaded him. But it would be funny.

Modifié par Lianna sFfalenn, 01 mars 2010 - 06:46 .


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Sialater wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I didn't play RE3, so I can't comment if that's the same scenario.



The movie.  Not the game.  I've only ever played RE4 and RE5.  (And Kaiden had better not end up like Olivera.)





Fortunesque:  Just had to tell you, "Parallax" is hysterically funny.  I'm loving it!


 I tend to agree, that Kaidan better not end up Olivera, I was kind of pissed at them  for killing him off. Alice/Olivera is my otp. ;)  Re movies are the coolest, since they have a kick ass female as the hero. 

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Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


T.I.M.: Ah, Commander Alenko. How nice to finally meet-

There is a biotic *thwap* sound. T.I.M. and his cigar sail gracefully into the air and off the edge of that platform into that handy, hot sun.

Kaidan: Nice to finally meet you too.

-

Okay, so no, I don't really think he'd do it. But it would be funny.


"Ah, Commander Alenko, its a pleas-"

"Martin Sheen? What are you doing in the future? I thought you where long dead."

"You're mistaken commander, I am the Illusive man."

"Martin, stop pretending, I know that voice and face from the old vids. Hey, since your not dead, can I have your autograph?"

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Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


Imo Kaidan won't acknowledge TIM's presence, won't speak to the guy, he will have that stern brooding expression on his face while he keeps his biotics ready for when TIM even looks at him funny or Shepard for that matter.

But I love pissed off Kaidan <3

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The Angry One wrote...

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.


eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil. I like it.

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RyrineaNara wrote...

Sialater wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I didn't play RE3, so I can't comment if that's the same scenario.



The movie.  Not the game.  I've only ever played RE4 and RE5.  (And Kaiden had better not end up like Olivera.)





Fortunesque:  Just had to tell you, "Parallax" is hysterically funny.  I'm loving it!


 I tend to agree, that Kaidan better not end up Olivera, I was kind of pissed at them  for killing him off. Alice/Olivera is my otp. ;)  Re movies are the coolest, since they have a kick ass female as the hero. 



Oh, god, that ticked me off no end.  I ranted at my husband and one of my guy friends about that ending for quite some time.  I was very pissed.

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Sialater wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

Sialater wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I didn't play RE3, so I can't comment if that's the same scenario.



The movie.  Not the game.  I've only ever played RE4 and RE5.  (And Kaiden had better not end up like Olivera.)





Fortunesque:  Just had to tell you, "Parallax" is hysterically funny.  I'm loving it!


 I tend to agree, that Kaidan better not end up Olivera, I was kind of pissed at them  for killing him off. Alice/Olivera is my otp. ;)  Re movies are the coolest, since they have a kick ass female as the hero. 



Oh, god, that ticked me off no end.  I ranted at my husband and one of my guy friends about that ending for quite some time.  I was very pissed.


I too was, so pissed off  and I thought they made a cute couple :(.  He fell in love with the woman, and didn't care that she was created the UC. 

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... Suddenly I can't help but entertain the idea of the whole Normandy crew, both from ME1 and ME2, bursting into TIM's office and all attack at the same time... then TIM sailing gracefully through the air and land in a pod.



... These paints can't be healthy. *Sniffs*

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Darazelly wrote...

... Suddenly I can't help but entertain the idea of the whole Normandy crew, both from ME1 and ME2, bursting into TIM's office and all attack at the same time... then TIM sailing gracefully through the air and land in a pod.

... These paints can't be healthy. *Sniffs*


"Calm down, people. Let the voice of Martin Sheen calm you down"

Crew "Must...resist!..."

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Shepard: In the name of the Council of the Citadel I arrest you, Illusive Man.

TIM: Are you threatening me, Spectre?

Shepard: The Council will decide your fate.

TIM: I *am* the Council!

Shepard: .. actually that explains a lot.

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The Angry One wrote...

Most likely TIM bribed Wilson through a 3rd party, or simply ordered him to sabotage the project.
TIM then orders Miranda to kill Wilson on sight. All evidence of his involvement gone.
Why? Most likely to get rid of superfluous personnel and evidence. He knows Shep will get out alive, it wouldn't be the only time TIM dumps Shep in the middle of the fire for his own convenience.


I like that idea. And he also gets to test out Shep to see if she is indeed her old self in a fire fight.

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The Angry One wrote...

Shepard: In the name of the Council of the Citadel I arrest you, Illusive Man.

TIM: Are you threatening me, Spectre?

Shepard: The Council will decide your fate.

TIM: I *am* the Council!

Shepard: .. actually that explains a lot.



:lol::lol::lol:

I really wonder what connection the Alliance has to Cerberus though. That stuff EDI says at the end...wasn't there something about some Alliance industrialists helping to fund Cerberus or something to that extent.

I would also think that if Cerberus helped influence the Alliance to build the first Normandy with Turian help that they may have had more than one person on the inside to keep a watch over the project. I'm wondering if in ME3 they may pull out a familiar character that may have been working with Cerberus all along.

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Cerberus WAS a blackops Alliance organization that went rogue. Which is bizarre, since it'd be like the NSA suddenly breaking off from the government, I'd think.

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Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


I don't think he'd like him very much despite the fact that he brought Shepard back. TIM is the head of Cerberus...an organization that stands for everything Kaidan stands against. I don't think he'd be the one to take him down though...I think that pleasure should go to Shep.

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Darazelly wrote...

Just a thought that struck me... how do you think Kaidan (Or Ash for that matter) would react to TIM?


ParagonShep who stayed loyal: He would provide covering fire while Shepard beats TIM senseless so they can drag him back to Alliance brass together.

RenegadeShep who threw Kaidan over for some Garrus action: TIM can discuss curtains with Vyrnnus with what's left of his skull while Shepard, for the first time in her life, runs the hell away.

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Sialater wrote...

Cerberus WAS a blackops Alliance organization that went rogue. Which is bizarre, since it'd be like the NSA suddenly breaking off from the government, I'd think.


TIM has to get his information from somewhere...I'm sure he has operatives and informants secretly within the Alliance.

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Sialater wrote...

Cerberus WAS a blackops Alliance organization that went rogue. Which is bizarre, since it'd be like the NSA suddenly breaking off from the government, I'd think.


Like in Stargate SG-1 :D But seriously, I wouldn't be half surprised if **** like that does occur in reality - hell, there are people who think the CIA shot JFK.

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Maybe the twist will be Cerberus never went rogue at all.

I imagine that'd seriously ****** off lifelong believers in the Alliance like Kaidan and Ashley. Anderson too.. unless he's in on it.. which I don't think is likely.