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Wait! What? Which dev said nobody likes Kaidan?


Chris did, though it was a joke and he's not even technically a dev. I shouldn't have brought it up :unsure:

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Ah, geese....now I have to go take my aggression out on something poor, innocent, and helpless. Way to go, Chris.



*slings rifle and trucks off to hunt unicorns.*



May their sparkly blood be on YOUR head.

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It's alright to vent about things like this, though. The thing is, Chris may have said this off-handedly, but right after ME2, a whole bunch of Kaidan fans emerged from lurker status into the forums. It's VERY clear by now that that statement is untrue, joke intended or not. Some people tend to think the devs and mods don't pay attention to the character threads, but I tend to disagree. They see how active the threads are, even if they don't read them. The fact that the Kaidan thread is so active, should be an encouraging sign that Kaidan and Ashley both will play much more of a significant role in ME3

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Right, forgot to mention, don't take Chris seriously, he was joking, and tends to do that a lot. In fact, he mocked me in a thread once. . . . evil.



:P

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I posted this on the KAAS, but I'm sorry that I didn't make it more clear that these were my views and I wasn't speaking for the whole thread.

I certainly don't want to harm the thread as a whole

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Well, so far, there's been no involvement from any BioWare devs on this thread, because I don't see the giant BIOWARE in blue letters under the thread title.... :(
Although, most dev comments in the Tali forum were from Stanley Woo telling fans to keep on topic.
Then he shut it down.
Maybe we're better off not having dev comments.

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Brodyaha wrote...

Well, so far, there's been no involvement from any BioWare devs on this thread, because I don't see the giant BIOWARE in blue letters under the thread title.... :(
Although, most dev comments in the Tali forum were from Stanley Woo telling fans to keep on topic.
Then he shut it down.
Maybe we're better off not having dev comments.


Brody has a point, we need to stay on topic (and I am not saying we haven't been), and lets face it sometimes we drift... and indept study of our thread would show any moderator that.

They don't want Kaidan bombs or spam or raves about anything ... and we bomb and rave and what for. 

That being said, someone says the words Virmire or Horizon and we are off on another crusade for an indept study of the two stongest incidents. All Kaidan based of course.

You want to prove that Kaidan should be in ME3 ... the best way to do that... Keep on topic and keep this thread open.  If it was the only one that didn't get shut down... that would count more then anything else.

More Kaidan for everyone ... we are one more day closer to ME3!

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 okay, here's an on-topic question (i hope it is, anyhow)...

is there any particular place where you can get especially good fraps video footage of kaidan doing awesome fighter-type things? i keep thinking i'm just going to have to record him in battle. i wish he got a cool intro cutscene, but he doesn't really have one. any ideas of places where i could find that?

something like this: (But moving)

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You should be able to remove the display and take some flycam footage. I don't know of any grand repository of Kaidan video, though.



I might be able to film you some myself, but not until I get a little bit of experience working with the program.

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sagequeen wrote...

 okay, here's an on-topic question (i hope it is, anyhow)...

is there any particular place where you can get especially good fraps video footage of kaidan doing awesome fighter-type things? i keep thinking i'm just going to have to record him in battle. i wish he got a cool intro cutscene, but he doesn't really have one. any ideas of places where i could find that?

something like this: (But moving)

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ME-OW!   Look at that intensity on his face. I really need to hook up my Xbox for video capture.   Anyone have any tips/exp?

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@Sage

I'd try someplace that's open that you can control your zoom in, like an uncharted planet. But that gives you the problem of the helmet... I might be wrong but I *think* you don't use helmets on Chaska (UNC: Colony of the Dead)



You could also try one of the many buildings on the random worlds; they're spacious, there's no helmet required, and the lighting is good.

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Nightodie wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Well, so far, there's been no involvement from any BioWare devs on this thread, because I don't see the giant BIOWARE in blue letters under the thread title.... :(
Although, most dev comments in the Tali forum were from Stanley Woo telling fans to keep on topic.
Then he shut it down.
Maybe we're better off not having dev comments.


Brody has a point, we need to stay on topic (and I am not saying we haven't been), and lets face it sometimes we drift... and indept study of our thread would show any moderator that. 

They don't want Kaidan bombs or spam or raves about anything ... and we bomb and rave and what for.  

That being said, someone says the words Virmire or Horizon and we are off on another crusade for an indept study of the two stongest incidents. All Kaidan based of course. 

You want to prove that Kaidan should be in ME3 ... the best way to do that... Keep on topic and keep this thread open.  If it was the only one that didn't get shut down... that would count more then anything else.

More Kaidan for everyone ... we are one more day closer to ME3!

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Sorry if this caused some confusion, I didn't mean to imply that posts in this forum was off topic or anything (I don't even know what bombs are on forums....except the explosive, real-life kind).  I was just commenting on the lack of BioWare dev involvement in the Kaidan thread, in terms of hints or support of the character (on top of Priestly's joke comment about "nobody liking Kaidan, which worried me for a bit), and then I realized the only dev involvement the Tali thread got was from Woo threatening to close it.  

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is there any particular place where you can get especially good fraps video footage of kaidan doing awesome fighter-type things? i keep thinking i'm just going to have to record him in battle. i wish he got a cool intro cutscene, but he doesn't really have one. any ideas of places where i could find that?


Now to get back on-topic, I don't know anything about video-editing or game hacking, but I would love to see a cool introduction to Kaidan/VS survivor in ME3, hopefully as a surprise new squadmember.  Now, although I wouldn't object to any re-introduction to Kaidan in the ME universe (I'd take Anderson bluntly saying, "We can't trust Shepard, go spy on her Kaidan"), Kaidan blazing in action and using his Sentinel abilities to rescue Shepard in a pickle would be an awesome introduction (and reward) for Kaidan fans. THAT would make-up for the ME2 shenanigans.  I'd also love to see a, "Why didn't you email me?!" inquiry after the enemies are dead.

What else I like about Kaidan is that he introduces an interesting aspect (twist? maybe) to the ME universe: the BAaT training.  It was an Alliance program that went horribly wrong, and the fact that the Alliance tried to sweep it under the rug blurs the lines between them and Cerberus.  Children dying?  Vyrnnus?  Trying to instill fear in family members regarding their biotic relatives to ensure there was no interference?  Doesn't sound honourable at all.  

Yet Kaidan survived this program...and went to work for the Alliance.  :blink:  B/romance, friend, however people perceive him, he's a very interesting character.

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Brodyaha wrote...

Now to get back on-topic, I don't know anything about video-editing or game hacking, but I would love to see a cool introduction to Kaidan/VS survivor in ME3, hopefully as a surprise new squadmember.  Now, although I wouldn't object to any re-introduction to Kaidan in the ME universe (I'd take Anderson bluntly saying, "We can't trust Shepard, go spy on her Kaidan"), Kaidan blazing in action and using his Sentinel abilities to rescue Shepard in a pickle would be an awesome introduction (and reward) for Kaidan fans. THAT would make-up for the ME2 shenanigans.  I'd also love to see a, "Why didn't you email me?!" inquiry after the enemies are dead.

What else I like about Kaidan is that he introduces an interesting aspect (twist? maybe) to the ME universe: the BAaT training.  It was an Alliance program that went horribly wrong, and the fact that the Alliance tried to sweep it under the rug blurs the lines between them and Cerberus.  Children dying?  Vyrnnus?  Trying to instill fear in family members regarding their biotic relatives to ensure there was no interference?  Doesn't sound honourable at all.  

Yet Kaidan survived this program...and went to work for the Alliance.  :blink:  B/romance, friend, however people perceive him, he's a very interesting character.


Unfortunately that's also mostly why people call him a gay, whiny, emo, Carth clone that does nothing but whine about his deep dark past constantly. That and usually when he talks about Rahna ticks people off here too.

It's amusing when push comes to shove though :lol:

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In one sense, Kaidan has quite the awesome intro, in both games. In ME1, you see Shepard walking along the length of the ship towards the pilot area, when you get to hear dat voice for the first time. I never even knew about KotOR, so had no idea who Raph S'barge was, but his voice was instantly beautiful :) Lol, he's also the very first squad mate you start out with, so Shepard cn easily assume that he's trustworthy.



In ME2, as a huge Kaidan fan plays through each recruitment mission, s/he starts to wonder where he will turn up. By the time you get to Horizon, that cut scene drives you nuts with excitement and urgency. I whipped through that entire mission, as fast as I could to get to talk to Kaidan. Only to be recieve ........ well, a too short of a roll, I'll just say that.



In ME3, I want to see him as a squad mate, I want him/Ashley to have a heart-warming reunion with awesome, nostalgic music playing in the background, and I'll try to not cry from all of the happiness . . . LOL.

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L.Aendrus wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

 okay, here's an on-topic question (i hope it is, anyhow)...

is there any particular place where you can get especially good fraps video footage of kaidan doing awesome fighter-type things? i keep thinking i'm just going to have to record him in battle. i wish he got a cool intro cutscene, but he doesn't really have one. any ideas of places where i could find that?

something like this: (But moving)

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ME-OW!   Look at that intensity on his face. I really need to hook up my Xbox for video capture.   Anyone have any tips/exp?


MEOW indeed, nevermind his face look at that body. Makes me wanna do naughty things to him...*gutter*

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Meow?

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I think the Dwarven stud in DA2 is taking me away... :o

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Shavon wrote...

In one sense, Kaidan has quite the awesome intro, in both games. In ME1, you see Shepard walking along the length of the ship towards the pilot area, when you get to hear dat voice for the first time. I never even knew about KotOR, so had no idea who Raph S'barge was, but his voice was instantly beautiful :) Lol, he's also the very first squad mate you start out with, so Shepard cn easily assume that he's trustworthy.

In ME2, as a huge Kaidan fan plays through each recruitment mission, s/he starts to wonder where he will turn up. By the time you get to Horizon, that cut scene drives you nuts with excitement and urgency. I whipped through that entire mission, as fast as I could to get to talk to Kaidan. Only to be recieve ........ well, a too short of a roll, I'll just say that.

In ME3, I want to see him as a squad mate, I want him/Ashley to have a heart-warming reunion with awesome, nostalgic music playing in the background, and I'll try to not cry from all of the happiness . . . LOL.

I know what you mean about ME2.  I ran to the Citadel first thing (still do in every playthrough) to try to find him.  Then you're sent to Horizon.  You get the cut scene with Lillith being all friendly (grumble grumble).  I rushed through Horizon, not to see him, but as if there were a little clock in the bottom ticking down when the Collectors would leave with him.  When that ship took off...my heart dropped.  Then relief with that glowing intro he gives.  Then frustration with Shepard standing there unreceptive.  Then everything goes to downhill.

I just hope that they stick to the ME1 LI romance plot being resolved in a good way.  I'm fine if there are other endings. I'm fine with variations of endings like in Dragon Age.  That would be cool, actually. I'm happy for Garrus fans and Tali fans if you can get a happy resolution there as well.  But IMO those ME1 characters being the original characters of the series should be the focus.

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Jade5233 wrote...

I know what you mean about ME2.  I ran to the Citadel first thing (still do in every playthrough) to try to find him.  Then you're sent to Horizon.  You get the cut scene with Lillith being all friendly (grumble grumble).  I rushed through Horizon, not to see him, but as if there were a little clock in the bottom ticking down when the Collectors would leave with him.  When that ship took off...my heart dropped.  Then relief with that glowing intro he gives.  Then frustration with Shepard standing there unreceptive.  Then everything goes to downhill.


And that's the gamut of emotions I've felt EVERY single time I've played ME2.  Avery is really hard to play since she feels so broken after Horizon.

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I have to finish my main . . . playthrough.

Initially, I thought the Collectors would take V.S., and we would have this epic rescue scene at the end . . . . NOPE!



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Sialater wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

I know what you mean about ME2.  I ran to the Citadel first thing (still do in every playthrough) to try to find him.  Then you're sent to Horizon.  You get the cut scene with Lillith being all friendly (grumble grumble).  I rushed through Horizon, not to see him, but as if there were a little clock in the bottom ticking down when the Collectors would leave with him.  When that ship took off...my heart dropped.  Then relief with that glowing intro he gives.  Then frustration with Shepard standing there unreceptive.  Then everything goes to downhill.


And that's the gamut of emotions I've felt EVERY single time I've played ME2.  Avery is really hard to play since she feels so broken after Horizon.

Yeah.  And none of your co-workers really gives a darn either.  Even Garrus, which keeps me from seeing hims as a potential LI.  If he were a real friend he would have talked to Shepard or given her some sort of comfort.  Instead he blows her off for calibrations.
Kara is soooooo getting drunk after Horizon this playthrough--first with Chakwas and then at the Citadel.

@Savon:  I'm kinda glad that there wasn't the whole rescue Kaidan mission.  I don't want him to be Shepard's Lois Lane.  I want him to be strong in his own right.  Despite Horizon being heartbreaking, Kaidan shows that he is both sensitive and strong.
I HATE that he turns his back on us.  I HATE that he walks away.  But I also have to respect him for it, too.  He's not just going to be Shepard's lap dog.

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Jade5233 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

I know what you mean about ME2.  I ran to the Citadel first thing (still do in every playthrough) to try to find him.  Then you're sent to Horizon.  You get the cut scene with Lillith being all friendly (grumble grumble).  I rushed through Horizon, not to see him, but as if there were a little clock in the bottom ticking down when the Collectors would leave with him.  When that ship took off...my heart dropped.  Then relief with that glowing intro he gives.  Then frustration with Shepard standing there unreceptive.  Then everything goes to downhill.


And that's the gamut of emotions I've felt EVERY single time I've played ME2.  Avery is really hard to play since she feels so broken after Horizon.

Yeah.  And none of your co-workers really gives a darn either.  Even Garrus, which keeps me from seeing hims as a potential LI.  If he were a real friend he would have talked to Shepard or given her some sort of comfort.  Instead he blows her off for calibrations.
Kara is soooooo getting drunk after Horizon this playthrough--first with Chakwas and then at the Citadel.

@Savon:  I'm kinda glad that there wasn't the whole rescue Kaidan mission.  I don't want him to be Shepard's Lois Lane.  I want him to be strong in his own right.  Despite Horizon being heartbreaking, Kaidan shows that he is both sensitive and strong.
I HATE that he turns his back on us.  I HATE that he walks away.  But I also have to respect him for it, too.  He's not just going to be Shepard's lap dog.


Not having either Tali or Garrus comment on Horizon AFTER BEING THERE is stupid and bad writing and I'm going to pretend that's not how it happened.  That both Meghan and Avery got to lean on their friends.

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You've had Tali there? I'm always still working on Omega when I get prompted to go to Horizon.



Also, I got a response to my message from yesterday. I posted it on KAAS and am looking for input into my response.

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You've had Tali there? I'm always still working on Omega when I get prompted to go to Horizon.

Also, I got a response to my message from yesterday. I posted it on KAAS and am looking for input into my response.


Some of the Garrus people have hacked the PC version of the game.  Apparently you could, at one point, recruit your team in any order.  The dialogue was recorded for it.   She doesn't really say anything different from Garrus, though.

But even if you don't/can't bring her to Horizon... she should still KNOW....  Or Shepard should be able to tell her.

I'll go look at your response.

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@Sage
I'd try someplace that's open that you can control your zoom in, like an uncharted planet. But that gives you the problem of the helmet... I might be wrong but I *think* you don't use helmets on Chaska (UNC: Colony of the Dead)

You could also try one of the many buildings on the random worlds; they're spacious, there's no helmet required, and the lighting is good.


good call, fort. thank you.

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Not having either Tali or Garrus comment on Horizon AFTER BEING THERE is stupid and bad writing and I'm going to pretend that's not how it happened.  That both Meghan and Avery got to lean on their friends.


yeah...

i was playing endless me2 side quests yesterday and was once again hugely impressed with the depth of consideration/writing/design that went into them. the blue suns sidequest arc, the one where you have to save only one half of the colony from batarians - they're just awesome, all so well designed, etc. such a total step up from ME1, where the side quests were interesting, but their lack of unique level design made them all look the same.

anyhow, i was sitting there thinking "i LOVE me2 - it's the bestest game EVAR!" and then i came back onto the ship and couldn't get garrus or tali to talk to me about anything and i thought..."oh, yeah...that's right." :crying:

i think what's especially weird there is that both garrus and tali are so dang CHATTY on other subjects. in me1, tali's all "blah blah blah migrant fleet, pilgrimage, convclave" and garrus is all "blah blah blah C-Sec, i love working with you" and while they have changed, they're still so chatty about their OWN issues. so the fact they don't say squat to shepard other than "really cerberus? huh. okay." is just odd. makes them come off as selfish and self-centered, which bothers me, because that really wasn't how i saw them in the first game.

squaddie banter was sorely missed in me2. a little went a long way for making the game feel like a team.

and to keep it on topic and not annoy those who dont' want to hear about garrus and tali - you know what else was missed?

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Kaidan.

argh! the guy is a ROCK from the start in me1, asks shep about how she's doing all the time. SO MISSED THAT! as much as i love the game play on me2, and i really, really do, if they could give us kaidan back, that would just be icing to the me universe for me.

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