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[Jhourney]

*counters reaper puppie with steaming shower pic*

[MICHELLE7]

Jho to the rescue!

[Darazelly]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Doug84 wrote...


ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

*gleefully mucks around for now reason*

RELEASING CONTROL.

It's one of BECC4's Reaper Puppies!

Kinda makes me wonder what the Reaper babies would look like.

Not completely sure I'd want to know.

[BECC4]

I love u guys so so much!



And the reaper babies would b mini versions of kaidan of course :-p

[archonambroseus]

Darazelly wrote...

Not completely sure I'd want to know.

Actually, we almost did see a reaper baby, sort of.  One of the concept sketches for the Terminator boss was basically a human/reaper embryo/fetus type thing.

Like you, not completely sure I'd want to know.  "Shoot the umbilical cord!  That's it's weak spot!"

[MICHELLE7]

BECC4 wrote...

I love u guys so so much!

And the reaper babies would b mini versions of kaidan of course :-p

:DThen bring on the reaper babies...the more the merrier.

[MICHELLE7]

archonambroseus wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Not completely sure I'd want to know.

Actually, we almost did see a reaper baby, sort of.  One of the concept sketches for the Terminator boss was basically a human/reaper embryo/fetus type thing.

Like you, not completely sure I'd want to know.  "Shoot the umbilical cord!  That's it's weak spot!"

Well what they came up with didn't need a weak spot...way too easy to kill.

[Darazelly]

archonambroseus wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Not completely sure I'd want to know.

Actually, we almost did see a reaper baby, sort of.  One of the concept sketches for the Terminator boss was basically a human/reaper embryo/fetus type thing.

Like you, not completely sure I'd want to know.  "Shoot the umbilical cord!  That's it's weak spot!"

Eh, I found the "reaper baby" in the game creepy enough. Yeah, I'm silly.

[Jhourney]

Darazelly wrote...

archonambroseus wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Not completely sure I'd want to know.

Actually, we almost did see a reaper baby, sort of.  One of the concept sketches for the Terminator boss was basically a human/reaper embryo/fetus type thing.

Like you, not completely sure I'd want to know.  "Shoot the umbilical cord!  That's it's weak spot!"

Eh, I found the "reaper baby" in the game creepy enough. Yeah, I'm silly.

I just went 'What the...?....riiiggghhhttt.' 'Okay lets hit the Lilith smoothie and see what happens"   'Focus Jho, focus." and I went back to business, losing a lot of immersion along the way <_<

[Brijenieve]

RedNanaki wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And the thread races ahead again....

Still not caught up, but was curious to know if anyone else is bothered by Kaidan's statement on Horizon about Anderson "stonewalling" him? What's to stonewall, if he really didn't know anything? My guess is Anderson already knew Shepard was alive, but wasn't about to say anything to anybody that might tip Cerberus off that he had a source (my money's on Joker) and isn't going to say anything to Shepard either, not until he knows which side Shep's coming down on. If the Alliance kept tabs on Major Kyle, would they really write off their big hero without at least trying to keep an eye on her? No matter which way she's leaning? I also don't buy the Alliance would ground their best pilot; think it was a good blind to get him in the door at Cerberus. Seeing as Kaidan is investigating Cerberus, knowing about Shepard is not a good position for him to be put in. Kaidan's reaction had to be genuine; Anderson would have to know Cerberus was watching him. I notice the Illusive Man said Kaidan's file was well-classified, not that he didn't have it.

That Anderson stonewalled him basically means he refused to give him any more infortmation or answer his questions. He just told him to go to Horizon, help the colonists and look out of Cerberus.

I think the Alliance is up to more than they're admitting, for sure. I can see Joker and/or Chakwas as having infiltrated Cerberus to a) keep an eye on them, keep an eye on Shepard and c) do as much as they can to understand and prepare for the Reaper threat.

Also, I wonder if maybe Anderson was hoping that Kaidan would be on Horizon if/when Shepard showed up. I doubt he was entirely unaware of their relationship (emotions are pretty raw after the final ME1 battle; if you take K along, he looks pretty teary when he thinks Shepard is dead. It would be difficult to maintain detached professionalism in those moments and in the med clinic shortly after- and I think Anderson would pick up on subtle cues that would tell him all he needed to know); maybe he thought it might do one or both of them good to see eachother, and was somewhat surprised by the outcome. Speculation, of course.

Kaidan's message got me wondering - he asks her if their night before Ilos meant anything to her, told her that it meant the world to him.  Does that imply something about their relationship between the end of ME1 and the beginning of ME2 (or the lack of one)? It seems like, if they had had 'shore leave' together and said their "I love you's" and such that we love to read and write into fanfics (myself included!!) that he would refer to that time as a whole, not just Ilos. Also, is it fair to assume that he would know how much it meant to her, because she would have told him she loved him? Or do you think they would have pulled a "Now that we're not being threatened immediately by Sovereign and Saren, we can slow things down a little bit, and take our time because we both suck at relationships," kind of move? Haha I know, for the sake of practicality, that it makes sense to only refer to Ilos because that happened in-game. I guess I'm just looking for something to fill the gap. I can't see them just going back to normal after that - it was clear (to me, anyway) that it was so much more than just physical. They relied on eachother, confided in and watched out for eachother; that wouldn't just end, would it? So why would he only refer to that one night? Because it was first?

Now I'M the one thinking too much about this.

[Lianna sFfalenn]

Jhosephine wrote...

I just went 'What the...?....riiiggghhhttt.' 'Okay lets hit the Lilith smoothie and see what happens"   'Focus Jho, focus." and I went back to business, losing a lot of immersion along the way <_<

I have to agree that I just found the final boss to be a little bit daft. Giant baby Terminator? Yeeah. He wasn't even that difficult to take down, and helpfully kept whacking Harbinger for me with his Evil Chest Blaster™

The ones that I really didn't like were those Praetorians. They're the hardest darn things in the whole game, IMO. So naturally Bioware makes it so I have to fight one every time I want to see Kaidan...

[sapphyreelf]

Brijenieve wrote...


Kaidan's message got me wondering - he asks her if their night before Ilos meant anything to her, told her that it meant the world to him.  Does that imply something about their relationship between the end of ME1 and the beginning of ME2 (or the lack of one)? It seems like, if they had had 'shore leave' together and said their "I love you's" and such that we love to read and write into fanfics (myself included!!) that he would refer to that time as a whole, not just Ilos. Also, is it fair to assume that he would know how much it meant to her, because she would have told him she loved him? Or do you think they would have pulled a "Now that we're not being threatened immediately by Sovereign and Saren, we can slow things down a little bit, and take our time because we both suck at relationships," kind of move? Haha I know, for the sake of practicality, that it makes sense to only refer to Ilos because that happened in-game. I guess I'm just looking for something to fill the gap. I can't see them just going back to normal after that - it was clear (to me, anyway) that it was so much more than just physical. They relied on eachother, confided in and watched out for eachother; that wouldn't just end, would it? So why would he only refer to that one night? Because it was first?

Now I'M the one thinking too much about this.

I think we each look at what he meant in the email differently. After all, we have that month between ME1 and ME2 that we can speculate about. I know some people said that alot of guys focus on an event as the "impact" point so to speak of the relationship, and Ilos would certainly have been that if you want to take that approach for Kaidan.

I personally think that based on their positions - and not wanting to jeopardize the crew and mission - that so far it has only been Ilos. There was lots of talking and longful stares, and wishes about some shore leave - but there was also a galaxy to save and some unwanted fame to deal with (because Shep is going to get alot of attention being the Spectre that saved the Citadel), so there hasn't been much time where they can work out beyond what happend at Ilos.

But that's for my personal Shep.

[archonambroseus]

I, like you, think that it's most likely for the player's convenience, since we have no point of reference for the interim period. Still, I can see one or both parties in an ME 1 romance, especially FemShep/Kaiden, taking things more "one step at a time" once they were done with their mission, which would mean that the pre-Ilos *ahem* sexy sexy consumation would have been pretty critical for them both.  Plus Kaiden, for all his strengths, doesn't seem like the type who's wholly confident in his relational prowess.

Or maybe I'm just projecting.

Modifié par archonambroseus, 01 mars 2010 - 08:22 .

[sapphyreelf]

Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

I just went 'What the...?....riiiggghhhttt.' 'Okay lets hit the Lilith smoothie and see what happens"   'Focus Jho, focus." and I went back to business, losing a lot of immersion along the way <_<

I have to agree that I just found the final boss to be a little bit daft. Giant baby Terminator? Yeeah. He wasn't even that difficult to take down, and helpfully kept whacking Harbinger for me with his Evil Chest Blaster™

The ones that I really didn't like were those Praetorians. They're the hardest darn things in the whole game, IMO. So naturally Bioware makes it so I have to fight one every time I want to see Kaidan...

I hate how that stupid Praetorian is constantly manuevering to hit me while I am in cover.

[RedNanaki]

How To Be the Perfect Video Game Villain:
Point 2 - Make Sure Your Weakness is Obnoxious & Colourful

The key to a strong boss presence is having giant, blinking, orb-like weak spots strategically placed on your body. Your eyes, hands, upper back or center of your monstrous tentacle chest are all prime real estate for your blantly vulnerable death hole.

Check.

Modifié par RedNanaki, 01 mars 2010 - 08:23 .

[Brijenieve]

sapphyreelf wrote...

I think we each look at what he meant in the email differently. After
all, we have that month between ME1 and ME2 that we can speculate
about. I know some people said that alot of guys focus on an event as
the "impact" point so to speak of the relationship, and Ilos would
certainly have been that if you want to take that approach for Kaidan.

I personally think that based on their positions - and not wanting to
jeopardize the crew and mission - that so far it has only been Ilos.
There was lots of talking and longful stares, and wishes about some
shore leave - but there was also a galaxy to save and some unwanted
fame to deal with (because Shep is going to get alot of attention being
the Spectre that saved the Citadel), so there hasn't been much time
where they can work out beyond what happend at Ilos.

But that's for my personal Shep.

That makes sense; I hadn't factored in the unwanted fame. Also, they admit that they are breaking Regs, so they would probably want some of the attention to die down even if just to stay out of trouble.

archonambroseus wrote...

I, like you, think that it's most likely for the player's convenience, since we have no point of reference for the interim period. Still, I can see one or both parties in an ME 1 romance, especially FemShep/Kaiden, taking things more "one step at a time" once they were done with their mission, which would mean that the pre-Ilos *ahem* sexy sexy consumation would have been pretty critical for them both.  Plus Kaiden, for all his strengths, doesn't seem like the type who's wholly confident in his relational prowess.

Or maybe I'm just projecting.

Haha, no, I definitely think you're right about Kaidan - at least, that's also the way that I think of him. As much as I like a strong guy, I love Kaidan's awkwardness and, given especially his past with Rhana, can see him wanting to take things... slowly. That makes a lot of sense.

So really the strength in his response on Horizon + his adorable awkwardness = he's super hot and lovable at the same time. Yes?

Modifié par Brijenieve, 01 mars 2010 - 08:36 .

[Lianna sFfalenn]

Brijenieve wrote...

Kaidan's message got me wondering - he asks her if their night before Ilos meant anything to her, told her that it meant the world to him.  Does that imply something about their relationship between the end of ME1 and the beginning of ME2 (or the lack of one)?

The theory which I've heard aired before, and the one which I tend to subscribe to for my Shep at least, is that they might not have had much time to consider it further. There's only a month between ME1 and ME2. If we assume that Shep & co. were pretty banged up in that encounter with Saren and factor in recovery time, then I reckon that the Council were worried that as soon as Shep got better (and definitely taking into account her response to the Council at the very end of ME1) she was going to start agitating about the Reapers. They don't want her rocking the boat, so they immediately pack her off back on a mission to take out Geth.

I also think that, as you say, Anderson is not daft - he would have noticed that Shepard and Kaidan were very happy to see each other alive and drawn his own conclusions (in fact, my one and only published fanfic is an Anderson POV of that wreckage scene). Thus, while they're not exactly being watched, I think our favourite couple would be aware that certain people have their suspicions, and that it would be wise to be extremely discreet while they're on deployment. Particularly since it's never really made clear if the Normandy took losses in that final battle - some of the crew could well be new folks on board, and not having that experience of how Shep operates could well take exception to such breaches of fraternization regs.

Modifié par Lianna sFfalenn, 01 mars 2010 - 08:41 .

[MICHELLE7]

Brijenieve wrote...

RedNanaki wrote...

Alice829 wrote...

And the thread races ahead again....

Still not caught up, but was curious to know if anyone else is bothered by Kaidan's statement on Horizon about Anderson "stonewalling" him? What's to stonewall, if he really didn't know anything? My guess is Anderson already knew Shepard was alive, but wasn't about to say anything to anybody that might tip Cerberus off that he had a source (my money's on Joker) and isn't going to say anything to Shepard either, not until he knows which side Shep's coming down on. If the Alliance kept tabs on Major Kyle, would they really write off their big hero without at least trying to keep an eye on her? No matter which way she's leaning? I also don't buy the Alliance would ground their best pilot; think it was a good blind to get him in the door at Cerberus. Seeing as Kaidan is investigating Cerberus, knowing about Shepard is not a good position for him to be put in. Kaidan's reaction had to be genuine; Anderson would have to know Cerberus was watching him. I notice the Illusive Man said Kaidan's file was well-classified, not that he didn't have it.

That Anderson stonewalled him basically means he refused to give him any more infortmation or answer his questions. He just told him to go to Horizon, help the colonists and look out of Cerberus.

I think the Alliance is up to more than they're admitting, for sure. I can see Joker and/or Chakwas as having infiltrated Cerberus to a) keep an eye on them, keep an eye on Shepard and c) do as much as they can to understand and prepare for the Reaper threat.

Also, I wonder if maybe Anderson was hoping that Kaidan would be on Horizon if/when Shepard showed up. I doubt he was entirely unaware of their relationship (emotions are pretty raw after the final ME1 battle; if you take K along, he looks pretty teary when he thinks Shepard is dead. It would be difficult to maintain detached professionalism in those moments and in the med clinic shortly after- and I think Anderson would pick up on subtle cues that would tell him all he needed to know); maybe he thought it might do one or both of them good to see eachother, and was somewhat surprised by the outcome. Speculation, of course.

Kaidan's message got me wondering - he asks her if their night before Ilos meant anything to her, told her that it meant the world to him.  Does that imply something about their relationship between the end of ME1 and the beginning of ME2 (or the lack of one)? It seems like, if they had had 'shore leave' together and said their "I love you's" and such that we love to read and write into fanfics (myself included!!) that he would refer to that time as a whole, not just Ilos. Also, is it fair to assume that he would know how much it meant to her, because she would have told him she loved him? Or do you think they would have pulled a "Now that we're not being threatened immediately by Sovereign and Saren, we can slow things down a little bit, and take our time because we both suck at relationships," kind of move? Haha I know, for the sake of practicality, that it makes sense to only refer to Ilos because that happened in-game. I guess I'm just looking for something to fill the gap. I can't see them just going back to normal after that - it was clear (to me, anyway) that it was so much more than just physical. They relied on eachother, confided in and watched out for eachother; that wouldn't just end, would it? So why would he only refer to that one night? Because it was first?

Now I'M the one thinking too much about this.

I don't know...I think he could have referred to it because it was the first time they were together...but if he still had any doubts as to whether or not Shep was the real Shep it could have been a test as to whether or not she remembered it. Only the real Shep would have known about it. He does go on to say...if you are the woman I remember. 

I could see them slowing it down after Saren but at the same time I don't know if I could see Kaidan blurting out ....I thought we had something...I loved you... if something more hadn't developed after Ilos. I mean if there was nothing any further I just don't see him divulging how he really felt about her so easily even in the heat of the moment. I kinda lean towards what other have said about them having a short shore leave where they may have had further intimacy but toning it down once they were on the ship. Joker did refer to them as 'dating'. 

[archonambroseus]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I could see them slowing it down after Saren but at the same time I don't know if I could see Kaidan blurting out ....I thought we had something...I loved you... if something more hadn't developed after Ilos. I mean if there was nothing any further I just don't see him divulging how he really felt about her so easily even in the heat of the moment. I kinda lean towards what other have said about them having a short shore leave where they may have had further intimacy but toning it down once they were on the ship. Joker did refer to them as 'dating'. 

Well I certainly don't think they went cold turkey with one another afterwards, but it seems likely that they weren't shacking up together every night either.

…

I'll be in my bunk.

[MICHELLE7]

archonambroseus wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I could see them slowing it down after Saren but at the same time I don't know if I could see Kaidan blurting out ....I thought we had something...I loved you... if something more hadn't developed after Ilos. I mean if there was nothing any further I just don't see him divulging how he really felt about her so easily even in the heat of the moment. I kinda lean towards what other have said about them having a short shore leave where they may have had further intimacy but toning it down once they were on the ship. Joker did refer to them as 'dating'. 

Well I certainly don't think they went cold turkey with one another afterwards, but it seems likely that they weren't shacking up together every night either.

…

I'll be in my bunk.

We need an arched brow smiley. 

[Brijenieve]

Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

The theory which I've heard aired before, and the one which I tend to subscribe to for my Shep at least, is that they might not have had much time to consider it further. There's only a month between ME1 and ME2. If we assume that Shep & co. were pretty banged up in that encounter with Saren and factor in recovery time, then I reckon that the Council were worried that as soon as Shep got better (and definitely taking into account her response to the Council at the very end of ME1) she was going to start agitating about the Reapers. They don't want her rocking the boat, so they immediately pack her off back on a mission to take out Geth.

I also think that, as you say, Anderson is not daft - he would have noticed that Shepard and Kaidan were very happy to see each other alive and drawn his own conclusions (in fact, my one and only published fanfic is an Anderson POV of that wreckage scene). Thus, while they're not exactly being watched, I think our favourite couple would be aware that certain people have their suspicions, and that it would be wise to be extremely discreet while they're on deployment. Particularly since it's never really made clear if the Normandy took losses in that final battle - some of the crew could well be new folks on board, and not having that experience of how Shep operates could well take exception to such breaches of fraternization regs.

That would make sense...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I don't know...I think he could have
referred to it because it was the first time they were together...but
if he still had any doubts as to whether or not Shep was the real Shep
it could have been a test as to whether or not she remembered it. Only
the real Shep would have known about it. He does go on to say...if you
are the woman I remember. 

I could see them slowing it down
after Saren but at the same time I don't know if I could see Kaidan
blurting out ....I thought we had something...I loved you... if
something more hadn't developed after Ilos. I mean if there was nothing
any further I just don't see him divulging how he really felt about her
so easily even in the heat of the moment. I kinda lean towards what
other have said about them having a short shore leave where they may
have had further intimacy but toning it down once they were on the
ship. Joker did refer to them as 'dating'. 

What? When? Where? I missed that!

[Isaantia]

I see the Post-Ilos timeline like this:



1 day after - defeat Saren/Soveriegn

1-2 weeks - recovery from injuries, separated for debriefings/tests, interviews by the press, name councilor, etc

2-3 weeks - reassigned to take out remaining Geth and find additional evidence to support reaper theory

5 weeks after that you're attacked by the Collectors and die.



When Shepard walks away from the council at the end of the game she's all "gonna find me some reapers n kill 'em!"



not "gonna find me some reapers n kill 'em... after I take a few weeks of R&R and work out my relationship with Kaidan"



Shepard certainly wasn't expecting to die in a few months. And even when the ship is attacked, she's totally calm - she doesn't expect to die then either. So my guess is Shepard & LI are taking it easy, knowing that finding evidence of the Reapers and their movements was priority one and that they'd have some downtime at some point in the future to deal with their relationship.

[MICHELLE7]

Brijenieve wrote...

Lianna sFfalenn wrote...

The theory which I've heard aired before, and the one which I tend to subscribe to for my Shep at least, is that they might not have had much time to consider it further. There's only a month between ME1 and ME2. If we assume that Shep & co. were pretty banged up in that encounter with Saren and factor in recovery time, then I reckon that the Council were worried that as soon as Shep got better (and definitely taking into account her response to the Council at the very end of ME1) she was going to start agitating about the Reapers. They don't want her rocking the boat, so they immediately pack her off back on a mission to take out Geth.

I also think that, as you say, Anderson is not daft - he would have noticed that Shepard and Kaidan were very happy to see each other alive and drawn his own conclusions (in fact, my one and only published fanfic is an Anderson POV of that wreckage scene). Thus, while they're not exactly being watched, I think our favourite couple would be aware that certain people have their suspicions, and that it would be wise to be extremely discreet while they're on deployment. Particularly since it's never really made clear if the Normandy took losses in that final battle - some of the crew could well be new folks on board, and not having that experience of how Shep operates could well take exception to such breaches of fraternization regs.

That would make sense...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

I don't know...I think he could have
referred to it because it was the first time they were together...but
if he still had any doubts as to whether or not Shep was the real Shep
it could have been a test as to whether or not she remembered it. Only
the real Shep would have known about it. He does go on to say...if you
are the woman I remember. 

I could see them slowing it down
after Saren but at the same time I don't know if I could see Kaidan
blurting out ....I thought we had something...I loved you... if
something more hadn't developed after Ilos. I mean if there was nothing
any further I just don't see him divulging how he really felt about her
so easily even in the heat of the moment. I kinda lean towards what
other have said about them having a short shore leave where they may
have had further intimacy but toning it down once they were on the
ship. Joker did refer to them as 'dating'. 

What? When? Where? I missed that!

You can ask Joker about Kaidan after Horizon. You can also ask Kelly.

The revealing about how he felt about her I was referring to was when he was speaking to her on Horizon.

And as for testing Shep I was referring to his wording in the email...I think he wants to believe it's the real Shep but at the point of writing the email isn't quite sure. If Shep remembers Ilos then she probably is the real Shep since she is the only one who would know about it. Just speculation on my part.

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 01 mars 2010 - 08:53 .

[Brijenieve]

MICHELLE7 wrote...

You can ask Joker about Kaidan after Horizon. You can also ask Kelly.

Hmmm I did; I did everything to make it known that Shep missed Kaidan and hoped to work things out in the future... but I don't remember exactly what Joker said. I can only find one conversation set with him on youtube from this; guess I'll have to replay.

[sapphyreelf]

Isaantia wrote...

I see the Post-Ilos timeline like this:

1 day after - defeat Saren/Soveriegn
1-2 weeks - recovery from injuries, separated for debriefings/tests, interviews by the press, name councilor, etc
2-3 weeks - reassigned to take out remaining Geth and find additional evidence to support reaper theory
5 weeks after that you're attacked by the Collectors and die.

When Shepard walks away from the council at the end of the game she's all "gonna find me some reapers n kill 'em!"

not "gonna find me some reapers n kill 'em... after I take a few weeks of R&R and work out my relationship with Kaidan"

Shepard certainly wasn't expecting to die in a few months. And even when the ship is attacked, she's totally calm - she doesn't expect to die then either. So my guess is Shepard & LI are taking it easy, knowing that finding evidence of the Reapers and their movements was priority one and that they'd have some downtime at some point in the future to deal with their relationship.

I certainly see a similar time line for my Shep, but so far, it has been left open for interpretation.