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[fortunesque]

Well, I can say that I've been in other character threads and have seen Kaidan bashing in them (big shock). I won't mention any names though.



Anyway, Kaidan. What do you all think he does in his spare time? I know in one of his lines (forgot which one), he mentions that he doesn't think about much outside of work. I assume that he has workaholic tendencies so he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be super involved in something very time consuming or extra social.

[sagefic]

fortunesque wrote...

Well, I can say that I've been in other character threads and have seen Kaidan bashing in them (big shock). I won't mention any names though.

Anyway, Kaidan. What do you all think he does in his spare time? I know in one of his lines (forgot which one), he mentions that he doesn't think about much outside of work. I assume that he has workaholic tendencies so he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would be super involved in something very time consuming or extra social.

i'm going with reading and network games for 500, fort.

incidentally, i just finished watching a documentary on parkour, and am thinking that is something i think shepard would get really into. my shep would, anyhow.

[sagefic]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think it depends on what one considers bashing. The definition of that term is highly subjective. I personally think the word "hate" is a tipoff, and I try to hardly ever use it. If I use that word, it's pretty intense for me.

As for Kaidan, I too think he is probably a bit of a workaholic. I don't see him as the going out clubbing sort or something like that. I can definitely see him reading though. He seems like a reader to me. I think most of his free time activities would be rather private ones. In fact, I was rather surprised he showed such an active interest in femshep so quickly. He makes it sound like relationships are a somewhat rare thing for him and he takes them very seriously. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who just gets instantly stricken with people. You guys have theories on that? Of course, Shep did just save his life so obviously that is a big deal. And he also says she is somewhat like Rahna in some ways so that probably helped too. He seems especially impressed with that "beautiful but not stuck up about it" thing.

some. i think that's why a good deal of the people here write fanfic. 

just off the top of my head: impressed by shep's ability to lead, perhaps impressed that she seems to make the choices that save the galaxy ("if i didn't agree with what you were doing, i wouldn't be here" comes to mind). shep sees him as a person, not a biotic, if you follow the romance <--big one there

[fortunesque]

I agree with the consensus about reading. He strikes me as an avid reader of non-fiction and a reader of things that are relevant to his career (eg: medical journals, technological journals). I think he's a guy that will pick up anything that's mentally stimulating. He does not strike me a sports or outdoorsy kind of guy; I think he spends his evenings quietly enjoying something to read.



As far as Kaidan getting immediately stricken, I view it as something that doesn't happen to him at all. Because it happened to him, he was completely disarmed by Shepard resulting in some of his most unsmooth moments. At the same time, he does seem to have poorer social skills so I think he's a little bit of a dork that just can't quite talk to women. Let's face it; though he's incredibly handsome, the biotics are probably a turnoff so it's likely that he doesn't have much relationship experience to begin with.

[Pacifien]

Fishing on the Presidium? Probably not a productive day of fishing.

But for my real life Kaidan surrogate, we spent all yesterday evening trying to build a stable bridge to hold a car in 1:18 scale using a minimum of parts. This I can see my Shepard convincing Kaidan to do. But I think I tend to bring up my idea that Kaidan played with meccano sets as a child every once in awhile when I drop in to this thread.

[FireEye]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
 In fact, I was rather surprised he showed such an active interest in femshep so quickly. He makes it sound like relationships are a somewhat rare thing for him and he takes them very seriously. He doesn't seem like the kind of guy who just gets instantly stricken with people. You guys have theories on that? Of course, Shep did just save his life so obviously that is a big deal. And he also says she is somewhat like Rahna in some ways so that probably helped too. He seems especially impressed with that "beautiful but not stuck up about it" thing.

I think he only starts to realize his own interest after that line.  The way he makes the comparison, he sounds like he's out in space and not even talking to Shepard for a moment.  He also only starts to actively show interest after Shepard does ("do you talk to everyone like this?") and I personally think ME1 spans quite a bit of time that they can get to know each other.

As for what he does in his spare time... I agree with reading and possibly gaming.  And I think he might like to go to places like Flux, since he remarks on it, but I think maybe he goes to spend time with people who enjoy it and to be social (which, I think he is social, just on his own terms and a lot of people can't get past his quirks).

[FireEye]

I think it's possible to fall in love and not notice it right away.  And to me, that seems to be the moment he does realize that it's more than simple admiration or lust (which he may feel before ever even meeting Shepard, what with the newscasts and all, but not be inclined to act on, since he allegedly doesn't do that sort of thing lightly).

Dunno.  Maybe I have to play again and refresh my memory. 

[Forum Aura]

 Kaidan strikes me as the type of guy who needs a slight nudge to "get out the door", so to speak. Meaning that nudge would be more successful if it was from another person - or very possibly an attractive female by the name of Shepard;) - who initiates it in a calm, open-ended manner. Who would want to get stuck on a first date/crappy outing without a way out, right? By rule he does leave his window for escape. And by "getting out the door", I do mean literally. The guy is in space so much and is so physically able to do a range of activities that I can imagine him having an attitude that would agree to a mutual, challenging activity in an instant. I recall a fan fic - though I don't know exactly which one, please forgive me - in which Kaidan wanted to take Shepard hiking (or did take her hiking); that's a perfect example! He did say he liked adventurous women, right? Wouldn't it make sense that it takes a somewhat adventurous man to keep up with an adventurous woman?

Oh... and agreeing to a mutual, challenging activity... indoors... I believe he'd accept that offer in an instant.

*Cannonballs into the gutter*

[FireEye]

Forum Aura wrote...

Oh... and agreeing to a mutual, challenging activity... indoors... I believe he'd accept that offer in an instant.

*Cannonballs into the gutter*

XD

[sapphyreelf]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

FireEye wrote...
I think he only starts to realize his own interest after that line.  The way he makes the comparison, he sounds like he's out in space and not even talking to Shepard for a moment.  He also only starts to actively show interest after Shepard does ("do you talk to everyone like this?") and I personally think ME1 spans quite a bit of time that they can get to know each other.

What about his conversation with Ash when you are looking out over the Destiny Ascension?  Shep can make a sort of vaguely romantic statement there that isn't expressly targeted at him and he stumbles a little as he agrees with her.  Ash even ribs him about it.  And there is also the little pleased smirk he gives when you thank him for bringing you back to the ship post Eden Prime. Granted that could just be chalked up him being concerned because he triggered the beacon and he is just pleased that you don't blame him for it.  I personally thank the moment Shep pulls him away from the beacon is the moment he starts to get interested.  Same with Ashley.

I agree actually. I think the beacon scene on Eden Prime is the catalyst for Kaidan's interest. So long as you don't rebuff him outright, he gets that little half-smile. I think it's just an innocent crush at that point though. It's not until you get into further conversations and drop similar signals that he really gets stricken.

And going back to an early thought from other posters, I do disagree with the thought that Kaidan is socially inept around women. Yes, there is that whole awkward, flustered thing he has in a few places in regards to Shepard. I've always felt that it had less to do with the fact that Shepard is a woman, and more to do with Shepard being his superior officer. He's a career man and a stickler for Regs. It's hard to be smooth when you don't want to get thrown off your post or out of the service.

Modifié par sapphyreelf, 26 août 2010 - 10:22 .

[Chignon]

Snuggels99 wrote...

Whenever I see this Backside Pic, I wonder where his Weapon remained?
And no not HIS Weapon  but the Assault Rifle. Actually he would have it on his Back?
Careless Kaidan, it could be still Collectors to be around tststs

You know, I never noticed that. I must have been ... distracted.

[Jade5233]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

FireEye wrote...
I think he only starts to realize his own interest after that line.  The way he makes the comparison, he sounds like he's out in space and not even talking to Shepard for a moment.  He also only starts to actively show interest after Shepard does ("do you talk to everyone like this?") and I personally think ME1 spans quite a bit of time that they can get to know each other.

What about his conversation with Ash when you are looking out over the Destiny Ascension?  Shep can make a sort of vaguely romantic statement there that isn't expressly targeted at him and he stumbles a little as he agrees with her.  Ash even ribs him about it.  And there is also the little pleased smirk he gives when you thank him for bringing you back to the ship post Eden Prime. Granted that could just be chalked up him being concerned because he triggered the beacon and he is just pleased that you don't blame him for it.  I personally thank the moment Shep pulls him away from the beacon is the moment he starts to get interested.  Same with Ashley.

I agree with you that it was likely being saved on Eden Prime as well as watching Shepard in action there that really started his interest in her.
(And the moments that you mention are very adorable shy, sweet Kaidan moments.)
I think that Fire Eye is right, too, in that he may not have realized his feelings until the Rhana conversation.  Sometimes its like that.  When I lived in England, I visited a friend's family in Ireland and met her brother.  We got along really well and had a nice friendship.  Everyone around me could tell I had fallen for him but me.  It had to be brought to my attention before I realized it myself.  Sometimes feelings are like that.

[Jade5233]

You know, its funny. I take Kaidan's being a biotic for granted. And we all seem to find it an attractive quality. But I tend to forget how odd and potentially frightening it would be to the "common" person in the ME universe. And how potentially ostracisized Kaidan might feel outside of the military.

[syllogi]

sapphyreelf wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

FireEye wrote...
I think he only starts to realize his own interest after that line.  The way he makes the comparison, he sounds like he's out in space and not even talking to Shepard for a moment.  He also only starts to actively show interest after Shepard does ("do you talk to everyone like this?") and I personally think ME1 spans quite a bit of time that they can get to know each other.

What about his conversation with Ash when you are looking out over the Destiny Ascension?  Shep can make a sort of vaguely romantic statement there that isn't expressly targeted at him and he stumbles a little as he agrees with her.  Ash even ribs him about it.  And there is also the little pleased smirk he gives when you thank him for bringing you back to the ship post Eden Prime. Granted that could just be chalked up him being concerned because he triggered the beacon and he is just pleased that you don't blame him for it.  I personally thank the moment Shep pulls him away from the beacon is the moment he starts to get interested.  Same with Ashley.

I agree actually. I think the beacon scene on Eden Prime is the catalyst for Kaidan's interest. So long as you don't rebuff him outright, he gets that little half-smile. I think it's just an innocent crush at that point though. It's not until you get into further conversations and drop similar signals that he really gets stricken.

And going back to an early thought from other posters, I do disagree with the thought that Kaidan is socially inept around women. Yes, there is that whole awkward, flustered thing he has in a few places in regards to Shepard. I've always felt that it had less to do with the fact that Shepard is a woman, and more to do with Shepard being his superior officer. He's a career man and a stickler for Regs. It's hard to be smooth when you don't want to get thrown off your post or out of the service.

Yeah, while the smile after Eden Prime and the scene on the Citadel were adorable, I don't think Kaidan realizes that anything more than harmless flirting is possible until Shepard says she doesn't get to know everyone the way she's getting to know him.  Kaidan is far too careful to even think such things about his commanding officer.

And I'd imagine that under "normal" circumstances, Kaidan is very courteous and sweet in an old fashioned way around women.  Although he's obviously attracted to adventurous women like Shepard, he probably hasn't met many who weren't already in the military and thus off-limits.  So if he's flustered around Shepard, it's because he's more attracted to her than most other women he's met, and yet she's far less accessible.  That would make me nervous too.

As for his downtime, I think Kaidan enjoys reading, as he said, tinkering with tech stuff, and working out.  He may be a nerd, and he might not be interested in sports, but taking care of his body is practical, and a matter of pride -- he doesn't want to always depend on his biotics, I'll bet.

[Jade5233]

Mine has been heavily influenced by it, I'm afraid. But it usually seems well based on the games. I won't read it if it isn't

It has done some good things, like make me Ashley as more interesting (I didn't take her on missions much. Kaidan is a constant.) and made me really appreciate Garrus more as well as Joker.

[siriusrambles]

i think kaidan is the kind of person that's not used to having ladies show interest in him due to the stigma of being an L2 biotic. he most likely hides his feelings for shepard because he's completely unaware of them. also, kaidan's a gentleman and probably dismissed improper thoughts about his superior officer out of respect for her and the regulations. when he did slip up, such as the citadel chat or the vyrnnus conversaton, he seemed taken aback then matter of fact. i do not believe he realized his connection to shep until later in the game when it became more than battlefield flirting.

regarding kaidan's hobbies, i've always thought he was a voracious reader: sci-fi, romance (not harlequin), non-fiction, fiction and fornax. there's little else to do in space. maybe tinker with tech gadgets: dismantling and reassembling parts while studying the mechanics. spending spare moments with video and computer games. perusing the extranet. when he's on shore leave, i imagine he stays outdoors. after being cooped up for months at a time on a ship or engaged in combat, a simple stroll through the woods at his father's would provide him a sense of normalcy absent in his day-to-day life.

^wow.  i was wordy. 

Modifié par siriusrambles, 26 août 2010 - 03:06 .

[Sialater]

Heya Raga!



I'm with y'all on the reading thing. Not much else to do and I'd imagine ebooks are easy to come by and can be read on one's omnitool. Dunno 'bout reading Fornax, though....