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Oh! But female characters can romance Liliana and Liara, too. *rolls eyes*
Feels that way, doesn't it--that women are neglected as a demographic. I think its just because were not as immaturely vocal.

In one weekend, I was talking to some guys and they act as if female gamers are rare enough to be found in zoos.
(Cue observation of a female gamer in a cage.
Habitat: leather couch, table, HD TV, Xbox 360 console. Table for coffee and chocolate treats.)
Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way?

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Brodyaha wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...
Oh! But female characters can romance Liliana and Liara, too. *rolls eyes*
Feels that way, doesn't it--that women are neglected as a demographic. I think its just because were not as immaturely vocal.

In one weekend, I was talking to some guys and they act as if female gamers are rare enough to be found in zoos.
(Cue observation of a female gamer in a cage.
Habitat: leather couch, table, HD TV, Xbox 360 console. Table for coffee and chocolate treats.)
Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way?


They just don't know how to get out of the house and flirt.  If they did then the would find girls that are into some weird stuff (just like guys are).

All they need to do is 1) excersize an hour every morning and 2) go do something which forces them to socialize.  It isn't difficult to do... it just takes a little effort.  Most of the typical male nerds think that the only place to meet someone is at a bar or dance club (which rarely happens).  Honestly... most people meet their significant other at work, school or at some social event not centered around alcohol and loud music.

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NICKjnp wrote...


They just don't know how to get out of the house and flirt.  If they did then the would find girls that are into some weird stuff (just like guys are).

All they need to do is 1) excersize an hour every morning and 2) go do something which forces them to socialize.  It isn't difficult to do... it just takes a little effort.  Most of the typical male nerds think that the only place to meet someone is at a bar or dance club (which rarely happens).  Honestly... most people meet their significant other at work, school or at some social event not centered around alcohol and loud music.


Orrr they've run into too many guys that like to pretend that they're badasses and they're sick of men and find that their xbox/pet is a better companion :P

Also, not all female gamers are fat and floppy. :huh:

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NICKjnp wrote...

To argue (for fun) with what you said.... Anderson didn't handpick him for you.  He was originaly part of the crew (and Ashley became part of it) before Shepard's Spectre status.


I got the impression that Anderson and Hackett handpicked everyone for the Normandy crew (as it was a brand new ship as of the beginning of the game).  The mission at that point seemed to be "Make Shepard a Spectre".  So, yeah, technically he didn't handpick Kaidan for us, but he does appear to have handpicked him for the Normandy and the Shepard mission, which means he might very well have been aiming for that eventuality.

And come to think of it, Kaidan seems influential (if not vital) in getting Ashley aboard.  I wonder if that makes him feel responsible for her at all.  :huh:

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FireEye wrote...

I got the impression that Anderson and Hackett handpicked everyone for the Normandy crew (as it was a brand new ship as of the beginning of the game).  The mission at that point seemed to be "Make Shepard a Spectre".  So, yeah, technically he didn't handpick Kaidan for us, but he does appear to have handpicked him for the Normandy and the Shepard mission, which means he might very well have been aiming for that eventuality.

And come to think of it, Kaidan seems influential (if not vital) in getting Ashley aboard.  I wonder if that makes him feel responsible for her at all.  :huh:

The entire crew was handpicked. I don't remember if Chakwas or Pressley says it but one of them mentions that. And yes, Kaidan recommended Ash for the crew. Anderson says so. 

So Kaidan's opinion does hold some kind of weight with Anderson. 

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NICKjnp wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...
Oh! But female characters can romance Liliana and Liara, too. *rolls eyes*
Feels that way, doesn't it--that women are neglected as a demographic. I think its just because were not as immaturely vocal.

In one weekend, I was talking to some guys and they act as if female gamers are rare enough to be found in zoos.
(Cue observation of a female gamer in a cage.
Habitat: leather couch, table, HD TV, Xbox 360 console. Table for coffee and chocolate treats.)
Maybe I'm the only one that feels this way?


They just don't know how to get out of the house and flirt.  If they did then the would find girls that are into some weird stuff (just like guys are).

All they need to do is 1) excersize an hour every morning and 2) go do something which forces them to socialize.  It isn't difficult to do... it just takes a little effort.  Most of the typical male nerds think that the only place to meet someone is at a bar or dance club (which rarely happens).  Honestly... most people meet their significant other at work, school or at some social event not centered around alcohol and loud music.


Aww guys don't have to leave the house to find a girl! My current and last boyfriend I originally met online lol. That way at least I know we share some common interests!

I have always had Kaidan with the bomb and gone back for him. I think its just habit now. I've never lost Wrex, that would seriously freak me out.

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@ nick - i too, found zaeed to be completely a fantasized "badass." whatevers - i liked his DLC just for the sake of paragon punching him. most paragon interrupts are kind of um...not as dramatic as the renegade ones. for overlord and zaeed, the paragon interrupts made my day.

i want more interrupts. and kaidan. kaidan interrupts. mm...

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NICKjnp wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Yeah, I hate to admit it, but I've had a playthrough where Ash was saved on Virmire. I hate that choice, and I think it leads to people projecting WAY more hate on both characters than they deserve, but it's just logical to save Kaidan. He is the officer, the valuable stable L2 biotic, and he's your second in command, who was handpicked by Anderson for this mission for a reason.

Add to that what Kirrahe says about how the bomb is only as dependable as the person who sets it...why wouldn't you choose the tech expert to stay with the nuke? And yeah, once the nuke is set, it shouldn't be able to be deactivated, but why would you assume that Saren, with REAPER technology, wouldn't have some unforeseen way of deactivating it? Going back to defend the person with the nuke is logical, and putting Kaidan in that position is the only choice that makes sense to me.

I have to admit, it does prejudice me in some ways when I hear people say that they always choose Ash. It sucks because it's one or the other, but as someone who would REALLY like to see more "Normal Guy" characters in games, knowing that people are blowing him up and proving the devs theory that what people really want are badasses like Zaeed, makes me sad.


To argue (for fun) with what you said.... Anderson didn't handpick him for you.  He was originaly part of the crew (and Ashley became part of it) before Shepard's Spectre status.  As a Specre (in the first game... the second game basically wrote off being a spectre as nothing and unimportant which is a discussion for another time) you get to choose (according to lore) who you want (obviously the game devs do that for you).  They only people who can supersede your authority are the three councilors (and they don't like to get involved with Spectre business).  As much as Udina ****es.... he is insignificant (the only reason he can lock the Normandy is because the council allows it)... as well as Anderson (who admits that Shepard answers to nobody but the council).  You don't even have a chain of command.  You can tell that Rear Admiral to screw off and you tell the reporter that you are only alliance in name so that you can use the Normandy.

Now that you have the Normandy there isn't a need to even be called "Commander".  It seems more an honorary title than anything... personaly I want to be called Spectre Shepard, Agent Shepard or Spectre Agent Shepard in the next game.

As for Zaeed... I hope they don't include him in the next game.  He is too cliche' and over the top of a character.  It is to the point where it is annoying.  Where other characters seem to have character flaws that are believable they make his flaw that he is too "hard".  He seems to be a character for 20 year-old college boys who have little understanding of reality.

You know, that second paragraph was always in my line of thinking about the whole regs issue with Kaidan.  She's a friggin Spectre.  She's outside the chain of command, really.  If that's the only thing that she's doing "out of line" I don't think that the Council would care.  But as Sage pointed out in her fic, it would probably have many more ramifications for Kaidan and Alliance personel likely wouldn't see it the same way.

Even if Anderson didn't handpick him for the Shepard, Kaidan was selected to serve on the most high-tech experimental ship in the Alliance fleet and possibly in Citadel space (apart from Sovreign).  So I think Teen's intent still stands.

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They just don't know how to get out of the house and flirt.  If they did then the would find girls that are into some weird stuff (just like guys are).

All they need to do is 1) excersize an hour every morning and 2) go do something which forces them to socialize.  It isn't difficult to do... it just takes a little effort.  Most of the typical male nerds think that the only place to meet someone is at a bar or dance club (which rarely happens).  Honestly... most people meet their significant other at work, school or at some social event not centered around alcohol and loud music.

And once again, if they learned something from the male LI characters BioWare makes that women like (Carth, Alistair, Kaidan) perhaps they would be more successful as well.

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Definitely not.  My friend and I are both gamers
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Also, not all female gamers are fat and floppy. :huh:


I didn't mean to imply that female gamers are fat and floppy.  :(  Or socially inept or whatever stereotype people associate with gamers. (I hope people don't associate female gamers with Marigold from Questionable Content...)

EDIT:  Phoenix armor definitely does not look good on Kaidan.

Modifié par Brodyaha, 29 août 2010 - 07:10 .


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Brodyaha wrote...

fortunesque wrote...
Also, not all female gamers are fat and floppy. :huh:


I didn't mean to imply that female gamers are fat and floppy.  :(  Or socially inept or whatever stereotype people associate with gamers. (I hope people don't associate female gamers with Marigold from Questionable Content...)

EDIT:  Phoenix armor definitely does not look good on Kaidan.


It wasn't you that said that :P

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The only Kaidan pic on the page has Phoenix armor! Fixing this situation

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sapphyreelf wrote...

Marines/Officers should not be making decisions based off emotions. It'll get you relieved of command.


Marines and Officers are human... emotions are going to be involved.

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Did someone say Kaidan Interupt?


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Nightodie wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Marines/Officers should not be making decisions based off emotions. It'll get you relieved of command.


Marines and Officers are human... emotions are going to be involved.

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They may be human, but that's the point of basic training -- to beat emotional responses out of you.

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i think this is also why i prefer kaidan on virmire: much as i appreciate having a squaddie who is "the heart", if i'm going to go to battle against a reaper, i want "the head" around.

and...that could be taken the wrong way. ahem.

anyhow. point being, cool rational kaidan is the one i want around for the final battle.

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Sialater wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Marines/Officers should not be making decisions based off emotions. It'll get you relieved of command.


Marines and Officers are human... emotions are going to be involved.

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They may be human, but that's the point of basic training -- to beat emotional responses out of you.


I knew you wouldn't be able to resist...

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i think this is also why i prefer kaidan on virmire: much as i appreciate having a squaddie who is "the heart", if i'm going to go to battle against a reaper, i want "the head" around.
and...that could be taken the wrong way. ahem.
anyhow. point being, cool rational kaidan is the one i want around for the final battle.


lol I totally took that the right way ;)

Head for the win!!

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i never understood why ash was considered the heart and kaidan the head. oh wait, nevermind.

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Hahaha Sirius, you've caught on to Shepard's dirty thinking

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Nightodie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Marines/Officers should not be making decisions based off emotions. It'll get you relieved of command.


Marines and Officers are human... emotions are going to be involved.

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They may be human, but that's the point of basic training -- to beat emotional responses out of you.


I knew you wouldn't be able to resist...


Heh, I'm quoting my husband.

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sagequeen wrote...

i think this is also why i prefer kaidan on virmire: much as i appreciate having a squaddie who is "the heart", if i'm going to go to battle against a reaper, i want "the head" around.
and...that could be taken the wrong way. ahem.
anyhow. point being, cool rational kaidan is the one i want around for the final battle.


Yeah, I don't blame femShep for being around the head. :pinched:

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shepard does some of her best thinking utilizing kaidan's head.

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hmmm..

http://a6.vox.com/6a...a45d6685e-500pi

I sense a great disturbance in the smut.



Its like a thousand fangrils squeed out in lust, and then suddenly glomped something.


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Nightodie wrote...

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Is it possible to have a love/hate thing for him walking away from our Sheps on Horizon. 
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