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TeenZombie wrote...

I played it last night, I do think this is the best DLC yet, and even if you just think of Liara as a friend and never plan to romance her, there is tons of cool stuff in there. Definitely worth my ten bucks. My only complaint was that they could have had a dossier or video footage on Ashley/Kaidan, (omg I would have been SO happy for either), but I'll live.


Stop tempting me.  First I'll get my hopes up then I'll buy it then I'll go from apathetic to hateful and I'll never be able to trust anybody again.  :crying:

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yoshibb wrote...

I did also find something interesting
under the Dossiers terminal in the Shadowbroker's lair. It has your
squad and other characters and descriptions. Again no Kaidan or Ashley,
but under Hackett's information it did say that "A deep undercover operative would be replacing his current aide in two months."


I have my throughts on that, observing the another feature of the base... For Sole Survivors - Akuze is mentioned at some point, but I'm not telling anything more - see for yourself.

Other that that, my feelings are same as TZ's. Good piece of work, but no Kaidan, not even a dossier of him or Ash. That line Liara is mentioning him is kind of... out of place, and what Shep's is saying is unjust I think, throwing him to the same category as friends...
Well. Let's wait those 24 hours for something new. Lots of upgrades should be delivered. This is not a spoiler I think.

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TeenZombie wrote...

I played it last night, I do think this is the best DLC yet, and even if you just think of Liara as a friend and never plan to romance her, there is tons of cool stuff in there. Definitely worth my ten bucks. My only complaint was that they could have had a dossier or video footage on Ashley/Kaidan, (omg I would have been SO happy for either), but I'll live.

I'm about 1-1/2 hours in.  There's a point in that timeframe where Shepard talks a bit to Liara about how she's changed--with paragon interrupts.  All I could think about is "Gosh, I REALLY wish I could do this--talk rationally--with Kaidan."

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Jade5233 wrote...

There's a point in that timeframe where Shepard talks a bit to Liara about how she's changed--with paragon interrupts.  All I could think about is "Gosh, I REALLY wish I could do this--talk rationally--with Kaidan."

Yes, that scene was good, not too pushy, not lame either. Something I'd like to see in the future.

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I was trying to do a little research before finally writting my letter to Mac Walters.  A little discouraged.  I thought for sure will all of our creative Kaidan fans we had better numbers than for other characters.
You tube vids:
Kaidan-196
Shenko-188
Garrus Romance 396
Thane Romance 292
Jacob Romance 221--how the hell?
I guess if you combine Kaidan and Shenko, the numbers are similar to Garrus's, but I don't know how much overlap there is.

Deviant Art:
Kaidan 701
Shenko (although some are some sort of goat) 149
Garrus - 2805!  Posted Image
Thane - 1283
Jacob - 358

The place we do better is in Fan Fiction
Kaidan 201
Shenko 96
Garrus 320 (so pretty similar in numbers if Kaidan and Shenko are combined)
Thane 124
Jacob 24 (haha!)

Grrr...But as we know with the "metrics" numbers can be spun.  So I'll spin them a bit.  But still.  Almost 3000 fan art of Garrus?  Posted Image

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I think the thing about so much fanart of Garrus, isn't necessarily for the popularity of the character, though that may be a factor, but because it's supposedly VERY difficult to draw a turian, even when you're not making up everything below the neck. Sometimes artists just like a challenge.



And I think Kaidan is still suffering fallout from his former fangirls for Horizon (and no, I'm not saying they're justified, I'm just saying what's going on). It'll be a while before the numbers improve. Unless these stats have been constant since ME1.

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@Jade : Interesting comparison. Thanks! I'm surprised at all the love Garrus gets. He IS a cool character though, I'll have to admit. But still Oo



Blah - My Xbox live is being a pain in the a** and won't allow me to download LotSB. RAWR!

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sapphyreelf wrote...

Liara DLC was amazing.
And the Kaidan line at the very end that you can get fit my poor Lex so I got the mention from Liara. It makes me very happy, and made up for me having to wait all day for the PC fix and staying up past my bed time to play it.


lol - I agree - it was that good! 

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As an artist, I would be more inclined to draw Garrus or Thane, just because they are more visually striking and as Sia says, more of a challenge. However, there is way too much Thane and Garrus fanart out there already, the market is "saturated", as they say, and unless I'm drawing something for a friend, I wouldn't be drawing them.



Another thing to factor in is that fan fiction is mostly romance oriented, meaning ~*girly*~ while fan art is more balanced between action scenes and romance scenes. I'm pretty sure Garrus is the most popular character with both sexes in general, so it makes sense that he would feature in many action oriented fan drawings.

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I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?

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Star58 wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Liara DLC was amazing.
And the Kaidan line at the very end that you can get fit my poor Lex so I got the mention from Liara. It makes me very happy, and made up for me having to wait all day for the PC fix and staying up past my bed time to play it.


lol - I agree - it was that good! 


I agree that I was very happy that Liara mentioned Horizon and Kaidan, but it's sort of bittersweet.  My opinion is posted in the KAAS, (so not to spoil it for those who don't want to know), but...I am still happy that there is a mention.

A character kind of told me off regarding my background, which was awesome that it was acknowledged even in the game.  So, BioWare definitely made progress with LotSB.  Except for one thing, it was phenomenal.

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Sialater wrote...

I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?



Here you go (don't pay attention to stupid posters!):
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TeenZombie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?



Here you go (don't pay attention to stupid posters!):
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Thank you, Teen.  I really shouldn't have looked.  But curiousity killed me.  :(:crying:

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I hate wandering into hate threads.

Or Pro this/Anti that ones.



I console myself with playing the game and ignoring those threads,


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Brodyaha wrote...

Star58 wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Liara DLC was amazing.
And the Kaidan line at the very end that you can get fit my poor Lex so I got the mention from Liara. It makes me very happy, and made up for me having to wait all day for the PC fix and staying up past my bed time to play it.


lol - I agree - it was that good! 


I agree that I was very happy that Liara mentioned Horizon and Kaidan, but it's sort of bittersweet.  My opinion is posted in the KAAS, (so not to spoil it for those who don't want to know), but...I am still happy that there is a mention.

A character kind of told me off regarding my background, which was awesome that it was acknowledged even in the game.  So, BioWare definitely made progress with LotSB.  Except for one thing, it was phenomenal.


Yeah - I really liked that exchange as well.  And as mentioned earlier (by Teen, I think) the ability to use paragon interrupts when talking with Liara.   I think I'm just used to the lack of Kaidan at this point, and I really enjoyed the DLC in and of itself.  Having Liara say something at the end - even though small -  just added to my enjoyment.

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Sialater wrote...

I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?

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Jade5233 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?

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Mmmm, thank you, Jade!  (I need to write this pose into aPoV.)

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Star58 wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Star58 wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Liara DLC was amazing.
And the Kaidan line at the very end that you can get fit my poor Lex so I got the mention from Liara. It makes me very happy, and made up for me having to wait all day for the PC fix and staying up past my bed time to play it.


lol - I agree - it was that good! 


I agree that I was very happy that Liara mentioned Horizon and Kaidan, but it's sort of bittersweet.  My opinion is posted in the KAAS, (so not to spoil it for those who don't want to know), but...I am still happy that there is a mention.

A character kind of told me off regarding my background, which was awesome that it was acknowledged even in the game.  So, BioWare definitely made progress with LotSB.  Except for one thing, it was phenomenal.


Yeah - I really liked that exchange as well.  And as mentioned earlier (by Teen, I think) the ability to use paragon interrupts when talking with Liara.   I think I'm just used to the lack of Kaidan at this point, and I really enjoyed the DLC in and of itself.  Having Liara say something at the end - even though small -  just added to my enjoyment.


What was said... I played through with a Femshep and I don't remember her saying anything.  The same goes with a Sheploo who romanced Ashley.

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Star58 wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...

Star58 wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Liara DLC was amazing.
And the Kaidan line at the very end that you can get fit my poor Lex so I got the mention from Liara. It makes me very happy, and made up for me having to wait all day for the PC fix and staying up past my bed time to play it.


lol - I agree - it was that good! 


I agree that I was very happy that Liara mentioned Horizon and Kaidan, but it's sort of bittersweet.  My opinion is posted in the KAAS, (so not to spoil it for those who don't want to know), but...I am still happy that there is a mention.

A character kind of told me off regarding my background, which was awesome that it was acknowledged even in the game.  So, BioWare definitely made progress with LotSB.  Except for one thing, it was phenomenal.


Yeah - I really liked that exchange as well.  And as mentioned earlier (by Teen, I think) the ability to use paragon interrupts when talking with Liara.   I think I'm just used to the lack of Kaidan at this point, and I really enjoyed the DLC in and of itself.  Having Liara say something at the end - even though small -  just added to my enjoyment.

I am enjoying LotSB for its own sake.  I like the furthering of the ME story, not just a stand-alone side mission.  But I can't help but wish for DLC similar in nature for Kaidan.

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And you're welcome, Sia--and yes you do.  Posted Image

*waves* hey Nick.

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NICKjnp wrote...

What was said... I played through with a Femshep and I don't remember her saying anything.  The same goes with a Sheploo who romanced Ashley.


When you pick the frustrated response when Liara asks how you are feeling Shepard says something like her closes friends not believing her, and Liara answers that see heard what Kaidan said on Horizon. A small mentioning, but still a mentioning :)

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Sialater wrote...

I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?


Afternoon all! :D

@Sia: Ignore the trolls. There are always a few ignorant people out there who think physical problems indicate a character flaw, and not, gee, a physical problem.

Has anyone seen all the videos in the Shadow Broker base yet? I haven't seen more than the first batch, and wonder if there's anything equally interesting in the later ones.

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Alice829 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I should really not have read Miri's infertility thread. It's pissing me off. I don't have enough Kaidans to cheer myself up. Can I get a shirtless Kaidan, please?


Afternoon all! :D

@Sia: Ignore the trolls. There are always a few ignorant people out there who think physical problems indicate a character flaw, and not, gee, a physical problem.

Has anyone seen all the videos in the Shadow Broker base yet? I haven't seen more than the first batch, and wonder if there's anything equally interesting in the later ones.




Thanks Alice.  I know that intellectually, it just doesn't help my temper when I can't pound them into a fine paste that would make Meghan Shepard proud.

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A lot of haters on the forum. And it is annoying. Some of them even go so far as to make and join hate groups ;)

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I was trying to do a little research before finally writting my letter to Mac Walters.  A little discouraged.  I thought for sure will all of our creative Kaidan fans we had better numbers than for other characters.
You tube vids:
Kaidan-196
Shenko-188
Garrus Romance 396
Thane Romance 292
Jacob Romance 221--how the hell?
I guess if you combine Kaidan and Shenko, the numbers are similar to Garrus's, but I don't know how much overlap there is.

Deviant Art:
Kaidan 701
Shenko (although some are some sort of goat) 149
Garrus - 2805!  Posted Image
Thane - 1283
Jacob - 358

The place we do better is in Fan Fiction
Kaidan 201
Shenko 96
Garrus 320 (so pretty similar in numbers if Kaidan and Shenko are combined)
Thane 124
Jacob 24 (haha!)

Grrr...But as we know with the "metrics" numbers can be spun.  So I'll spin them a bit.  But still.  Almost 3000 fan art of Garrus?  Posted Image



If I had the time, I'd churn out as many art works as I could.   I hate college.   I need a Kaidan and kitties binder to take with me.  

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L.Aendrus wrote...

Jade5233 wrote...

I was trying to do a little research before finally writting my letter to Mac Walters.  A little discouraged.  I thought for sure will all of our creative Kaidan fans we had better numbers than for other characters.
You tube vids:
Kaidan-196
Shenko-188
Garrus Romance 396
Thane Romance 292
Jacob Romance 221--how the hell?
I guess if you combine Kaidan and Shenko, the numbers are similar to Garrus's, but I don't know how much overlap there is.

Deviant Art:
Kaidan 701
Shenko (although some are some sort of goat) 149
Garrus - 2805!  Posted Image
Thane - 1283
Jacob - 358

The place we do better is in Fan Fiction
Kaidan 201
Shenko 96
Garrus 320 (so pretty similar in numbers if Kaidan and Shenko are combined)
Thane 124
Jacob 24 (haha!)

Grrr...But as we know with the "metrics" numbers can be spun.  So I'll spin them a bit.  But still.  Almost 3000 fan art of Garrus?  Posted Image



If I had the time, I'd churn out as many art works as I could.   I hate college.   I need a Kaidan and kitties binder to take with me.  


It might not be as bad as it seems. Garrus is well liked by both men and women, while Kaidan seems to be please the female audience more then the male. This could explain the huge amount of Garrus art. Also Garrus seems to be more loved by younger women >25 while Kaidan is the prefered choice of 25+ Younger people usually has more time to make fanart, youtube vids etc(or at least I know I did)