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[Jenova65]

Oh, and Fort, I love your signature bar, when did you add that?

ETA - Top of page Kaidan

Modifié par Jenova65, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:23 .

[Chignon]

fortunesque wrote...

Everything starts with a Cerberus letter. I hate having them forced on me. I'm not a Natzi (yeah, they censor this word). I hate Cerberus and everything they stand for.

Yes, I was hoping that we'd finally get away from Cerberus in LotSB. And then we get that message and Shepard going, "Hey, Liara, Cerberus gave me stuff about the Shadow Broker! Interested?"
... and I hate that mission complete screen with TIM.

[FenrisDeSolar]

It bothers me that even side-quests were reported to Cerberus in ME2. ¬_¬



But mostly, I don't understand why we couldn't get a REPLY option to Kaidan's letter... >_<

[fortunesque]

Jenova65 wrote...

Oh, and Fort, I love your signature bar, when did you add that?

Just yesterday. I posted it in the KAAS sigbar thread if you want one 

[fortunesque]

I have massive issues with Cerberus, especially with what TIM says when you want to blow up the base. From his dialog there, I get the impression of someone who wants to assert humans as the dominant racial force, which he will be the leader of through Cerberus. Hitler did the same damn thing. TIM is a madman. Period.

[Jenova65]

fortunesque wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Oh, and Fort, I love your signature bar, when did you add that?

Just yesterday. I posted it in the KAAS sigbar thread if you want one 

Awesome, I might just go and get me that one  And notice ^ I still follow the 'Top of page', rule! 

[fortunesque]

And it's the sexy eyebrowed Kaidan too

[Jenova65]

fortunesque wrote...

And it's the sexy eyebrowed Kaidan too

 Yep! He looks all manly and in charge...........

[FenrisDeSolar]

He looks suspicious of something there. >_O

[Geirahod]

we could do a team for it, because I hate cerberus too and I don't want to work with them anymore.

If you read the last novel "Retribution" I don't like what Anderson said about Shepard when he's thinking on ask him for help. He and everyone is assuming that Shepard is a traitor, and that is not true.



The Illusive Man and his creepy organization are destroying the life of our Shep.

[FenrisDeSolar]

I haven't read Retribution. From the description of it, it felt like another pro-Cerberus thing. ¬_¬



Is there any mention of Kaidan in it? If there is I'll read it. If there isn't, I won't. >_<

[fortunesque]

At this point, I do feel like it's my Shep's duty to assassinate TIM. He's a public menace and I don't think people that are working for him (ex: Miranda before the Collector base fiasco) know that he's bent on becoming a galactic dictator rather than being the kind underdog that helps people out that he wants people to think he is.

Modifié par fortunesque, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:35 .

[Geirahod]

FenrisDeSolar wrote...

I haven't read Retribution. From the description of it, it felt like another pro-Cerberus thing. ¬_¬

Is there any mention of Kaidan in it? If there is I'll read it. If there isn't, I won't. >_<

I don't know if there's something about Kaidan on it, I started to read the book only a few days ago.
But for what I've read, this book makes you hate much more Cerberus and TIM.

Off-Topic: I have been reading very slowly, because english isn't my mother language (I speak spanish :S).

Modifié par Geirahod, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:47 .

[FenrisDeSolar]

Underdog. That's really ironic, considering Cerberus was the hellhound in Greek Mythology... xD I do hate Timmy. But if Miranda took over Cerberus, I think I could like them.

[Geirahod]

Arghhh I really hate Miranda and her fake butt.

Modifié par Geirahod, 10 septembre 2010 - 07:49 .

[Sialater]

Now, now... we don't have to bash other characters to support Kaidan.



Unless it's Jacob, of course. (OK, ok, I'm kidding.)

[Chignon]

There is more to Miranda than her butt, even if the game does focus heavily on it at times.



I hope we get a chance to take Cerberus down, either in a DLC or in ME3. Mssions like deciding whether to give the data found on Lorek to the Alliance or not could be a hint to that and set the path for Shepard. Hopefully it doesn't fall into the depths of a plothole, never to be seen again like the choice to give the Shadow Broker data in ME1.

[Geirahod]

Jenova65 wrote...

Oh, and Fort, I love your signature bar, when did you add that?

ETA - Top of page Kaidan

Oh god!, He's so cute!!

I've played more times ME1 than ME2,  just to see Kaidan.

[fortunesque]

I will say that I feel strongly about some things in ME2 but the only thing I'll be extremely and unapologetically vocal about is Cerberus. That's probably why I blame Shep more than Kaidan on Horizon; I see Cerberus as evil.

[Collider]

Yeah, I bromanced him,

I approve.

[Lovestories]

Gosh I'm probably the only one that saved the base (on my first playthrough) in this thread lol. Felt like the worse decision ever afterwards. I was gonna go back and replay it but i'll just see what happens in 3. If we move away from cerberus (And I hope we do) I hope i can kill TIM and take the base back! lol



And I agree with what Fortunesque said about Kaidan morals. Right now I definately wouldnt trust him, his loyalties are with the Alliance as he said. If I'm causing a problem with the Alliance I can see him going agaisnt me if ordered to.

[Jade5233]

sagequeen wrote...

I can't explain it, exactly. I trust Joker in many ways, but...I guess he went over to Cerberus rather easily. And his reaction if Shep dies at the end is just...weird. His writing is off there. I dunno. I adore Joker, and I trust him to do his job, but I keep feeling like he'd sell out much more easily than the others. Miri, once on Shep's side, I don't see her turning back again. Joker, I could see him being bought. No offense, and perhaps others will disagree. But this is a KAidan thread. And with Kaidan, I'd put him in the totally trust except that I don't know what he's up to.

After thinking about it, I guess I trust Kaidan completely--almost.  As long as he thinks Shepard betrayed him and thinks that the Alliance are completely the good guys, he's got a conflict of interest.  And Kaidan, being Kaidan...well, he will act with more reserve concerning his emotions and tend to side with what is logical.
If Shepard could only have 5 minutes or so alone with him (no, not in that way, well maybe just a little--Shepard would want much more than 5 minutes...anyways...) I think she could sway him enough, provided she were a faithful Shepard (not that he would know, just that there may be unconscious clues that Kaidan would pick up from Shepard that she has betrayed him on some level).
I also think that once he realizes that the Alliance isn't as squeeky clean as he thought it was (which I might already be starting after being sold out on Horizon and being stonewalled by Anderson), that he might see his duty as being apart from the Alliance.

Fenris
I'm worried about the whole Kaidan/Ashley thing. I keep wondering if it's possible that one we see them again, they won't take Shepard back. O_O The silence from Bioware just kills me a little. >_<

There was that interview (of Hudsons?) that talked about the ME1 LI's--that if Shepard is unfaithful then there will be consequences.  I would assume that to mean that being faithful will give them a less rocky road.

As far as LotSB starting with a letter from Cerberus, I think there are two reasons:  One is for simlicity of game design--so they don't have to program in "if before O-4" "If after O-4 and the base is blown" "if after O-4 and the base is kept" etc.  Second is that Shepard made it clear that she is no longer taking orders from TIM--that she is the boss now.  But that doesn't necessarily sever all ties.  No.  I don't think TIM appreciated that.  But he still needs/wants Shepard to continue her preparations for war against the Reapers.  I think that there is still a tenuous relationship there--if she needed help, Cerberus would, but with strings attached.  So they can still send her messages like that about Liara as an act of goodwill.

Fenris
Is there any mention of Kaidan in it? If there is I'll read it. If there isn't, I won't. >_<   

There can't be.  Because Kaidan is dead at that point half of the time (or more  ).

@Geirahod:  Yes.  You're right he's very cute.  I love his lips with their little criss cross scar. 

Modifié par Jade5233, 10 septembre 2010 - 09:29 .

[sesheta255]

My take on the whole Cerberus thing is that there is more to the whole Shepard working for Cerberus line than we know. Anderson and Hackett both know more than they are letting on, as seen from the dlc, and the fact that there are so many 'ex' Alliance people on board the Normandy makes me think - Joker, would the Alliance really want to lose their best pilot, Chakwas, why would they put a doctor with her experience on board ships and in patching up battle wounded soldiers on Mars, Ken and Gabby, let resign at a time when recruitment is down and the Alliance need experienced personel more than ever after losing so many after Sovereign. Then there's Jacob - maybe I'm just looking for conspiracy theories but I would like to know how he managed to get his hands on supposedly top secret shield research. It's not out of the realms of possibility that the Alliance have spies in Cerberus, or that Cerberus is not as 'rogue' from the Alliance as they are made out to be. By leaving Shepard with Cerberus, the Alliance knows things will get done in respect of the Collectors and Reapers whereas their hands are tied by the Council. Shepard can go anywhere in the Terminus system where they can't, and because the Council don't believe the whole Reaper threat I think the Alliance want Shepard out there to find the proof and to be the front line or early warning system so to speak, lol



As for Horizon I really put both their reactions down to shock. Kaidan thought Shepard was dead, he'd heard rumours that she wasn't but obviously couldn't get any answers out of Anderson or maybe even Hackett. I have no problem with him standing firm on his principles, that was set up in ME1 when he told Shepard that he wouldn't be there after stealing the Normandy if he didn't think it was the right thing.