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[fortunesque]

JaerWolfe wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Well, one thing that people have suspected is that the VS is now a Spectre (or at the very least are working directly with Anderson). That would explain things being extremely classified. I don't think the Alliance would be able to classify stuff enough that Cerberus couldn't get to it, so the Council has something to do with it.

Considering Shep's track record with meeting other Spectres...I'm starting to really hope Kaidan is just an Alliance liason.

I hope so too. Honestly, I think he's Anderson's errand person

[Chignon]

vaylander wrote...

Not many fellow renegades here.

My main Shepard is mostly a renegade. Renegade doesn't equal liking Cerberus or keeping the base.


I don't know if I'd like to see Kaidan as a Spectre or not. :/

[Quaay]

Anderson and Kaidan both realize there are security leaks so they have to be careful and play everything close to the chest. They can't trust anyone else at this point, not even Shepard considering the Cerberus connection and that they don't know what tech was used to bring her back from the dead.

[JaerWolfe]

fortunesque wrote...

JaerWolfe wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Well, one thing that people have suspected is that the VS is now a Spectre (or at the very least are working directly with Anderson). That would explain things being extremely classified. I don't think the Alliance would be able to classify stuff enough that Cerberus couldn't get to it, so the Council has something to do with it.

Considering Shep's track record with meeting other Spectres...I'm starting to really hope Kaidan is just an Alliance liason.

I hope so too. Honestly, I think he's Anderson's errand person

I tend more to that line of thinking these days, myself. I'd be okay with him being Hackett's as well. There's a seriously underused character and I wonder sometimes if it's on purpose.

[Lovestories]

vaylander wrote...

Not many fellow renegades here.

Nah I love playing renegade, but saving the base felt like a mistake. It wont stop me from saving it in other playthroughs through, I'm curious to see what will happen, They really pushed it as a heavy risk at the end but the prize dammit.

I really can't help but think there is a stronger connection between the Alliance and Ceberus than we are lead to think. One theory that I had, was that the VS might uncover this, share this knowledge with you leading to the two of you reuniting for some missions. Who knows...

@Fort Hmm VS as a spectre I can see why that would be interesting, but I kinda hope not

[Geirahod]

Chignon wrote...

vaylander wrote...

Not many fellow renegades here.

My main Shepard is mostly a renegade. Renegade doesn't equal liking Cerberus or keeping the base.


I don't know if I'd like to see Kaidan as a Spectre or not. :/

My shep is a renegade too...but I send the base to the hell and beyond...
Now it make me angry to know that TIM got the data...and that he keep going on with those creepy experiments on humans.<_<

[sagefic]

I play paragon, it's true.

Reason why? I find it more badass to be someone with compassion and integrity in a f-ed up galaxy than to go around shoving mercs out of windows.

Sometimes I have Shep cut loose with a biting comment, but most often, I find Shep is awesomeness with frosting on top when she sees something nasty and instead of becoming bitter or stooping to the level of the creeps around her, lifts her chin and is the better woman.

It may not look as flashy, may not get the love and adoration of everyone, certainly has less "OMG!" moments, but I like Shep that way. I see her as striving to stay centered when everything is pulling her off center. And Jennifer Hale's voicing just adds to that. She adds a passion to the voicing that is hard to beat. I played renegade only once. Had 1 renegade maleshep who went for Miri and I felt sorry for Miri. She deserves better.

Speaking of femshep, have you seen this?

Modifié par sagequeen, 10 septembre 2010 - 11:38 .

[FireEye]

Estelindis wrote...

Moreover, I imagine that the scene of Wooden Shepard ™ on Horizon would have been heart-rending on an additional level if the woodenness had literally been forced (by Cerberus directly, not simply indirectly by Bioware).  Instead of a thousand Kaidan / Ashley fans crying "why are you showing no emotion?" and getting annoyed at Shep, they'd be feeling sorry for Kaidan *and* Shepard. 

Yes.  Shepard could have used some good, well-written wood on Horizon...

[Jade5233]

RubyRed1975 wrote...

Personally I don't think Cerberus went rogue. I believe they are still apart of the Alliance but, they don't want anyone to know. As long as someone like TIM is in control, Cerberus will always be known as the bad guys who wants to dominate every species. I can understand looking out for human interest and all but sometimes they do cross the line. I am curious as to why TIM couldn't get any info on the VS. Anyone have any thoughts to that or do you think he was lying?

TIM said that Kaidan's file was surprisingly well classified.  Not that TIM didn't know the info within Kaidan's file. 

Perhaps it is a good thing that there weren't any files on Kaidan in LotSB--that the Shadow Broker wasn't aware of/gunning for Kaidan like he was for Shepard.

Batteries
The contact was probably Lilith. That's why she was the only one who liked the VS.

And yet another reason for me to be happy that the little tart got blended.

BTW--I just did Kasumi's loyalty mission again.  I didn't really notice before what Kaji (sp?) said--that if the Council ever got hold of that data (whatever it may be) that the Alliance would be implicated.
Hmmm...sounds like their tie with Cerberus perhaps?

and I'm still quite disturbed that Anderson may be in league with Cerberus.  He was like a father to my main Shepard...

KAIDAN!  Wake up and smell the coffee!  The Alliance is rotten!

EDIT:  Also, in playing Kasumi's DLC, now I have the black suit for my Kaidan-ish mShep.  He looks
Also, I 'm finding it much easier to talk to Jacob with mShep since his voice doesn't sound like he's needs a good...

Modifié par Jade5233, 10 septembre 2010 - 11:53 .

[sagefic]

Major Spoilers in my post: 

I think what Keiji (sp?) had was reaper data.

SPOILER PHOTO:



See? Totally a reaper. 

I think the Alliance is compiling info on it, maybe mobilizing in secret because they can't get the Council behind them?

This is why I don't read much into Anderson talking to the Cerberus guy in the video on LotSB. That could be a Cerberus double agent, an Alliance mole. Heck, he could even be part of shep's crew, keeping tabs on Shep. Has anyone checked out all the crew to see if he looks familiar? While it could be that Anderson is going to try and betray Shepard, I really don't think that's it. He's after the Reapers, but he's stuck and blinded by his eternal obsession with weaponry (remember in ME1? everything was about having bigger guns. guy's got a complex there).

Anyhow. That's my take. I think the Alliance is going to turn out to be tainted and mired in politics, but overall still trustworthy. I guess that's my take on most things military: secrets for understandable reasons, sometimes corrupt, but often pull through in the end.

Modifié par sagequeen, 10 septembre 2010 - 11:53 .

[Jade5233]

sagequeen wrote...

Major Spoilers in my post: 

I think what Keiji (sp?) had was reaper data.

SPOILER PHOTO:



See? Totally a reaper. 

I think the Alliance is compiling info on it, maybe mobilizing in secret because they can't get the Council behind them?

This is why I don't read much into Anderson talking to the Cerberus guy in the video on LotSB. That could be a Cerberus double agent, an Alliance mole. Heck, he could even be part of shep's crew, keeping tabs on Shep. Has anyone checked out all the crew to see if he looks familiar? While it could be that Anderson is going to try and betray Shepard, I really don't think that's it. He's after the Reapers, but he's stuck and blinded by his eternal obsession with weaponry (remember in ME1? everything was about having bigger guns. guy's got a complex there).

Anyhow. That's my take. I think the Alliance is going to turn out to be tainted and mired in politics, but overall still trustworthy. I guess that's my take on most things military: secrets for understandable reasons, sometimes corrupt, but often pull through in the end.

Yeah.  It does look like a Reaper.

And the bigger gun thing reminds me of:
"I think we're gonna need a bigger boot, Commander."

EDIT:
Wait!  No Kaidan pics on this page:

Modifié par Jade5233, 10 septembre 2010 - 11:56 .

[sesheta255]

Thats the reason I destroy the data in Kasumi's dlc. My Shepard does not want incriminating evidence against the Alliance floating around when she has to try and unite the galaxy against the Reapers.

I got the impression that the Cerberus person Anderson met up with was one of the Normandy crew - possibly Ken. I really think that the Alliance are sitting back and letting Shepard and Cerberus do all the wet work because their hands are tied by the Council in terms of what they can and can't get away with and where they can and can't go.

As for Kaidan, I think the Alliance will lose their shine in his eyes once he learns of some things but I don't see him quitting. He strikes me as more of a person who would stay to try and make things right within the Alliance, to make a difference.

Modifié par sesheta255, 11 septembre 2010 - 12:04 .

[sagefic]

sesheta255 wrote...

As for Kaidan, I think the Alliance will lose their shine in his eyes once he learns of some things but I don't see him quitting. He strikes me as more of a person who would stay to try and make things right within the Alliance, to make a difference.

I agree. Though... I bet a persuasion check would get him on Shep's side no matter what. Somehow Shep's persuasion checks manage to make very unlikely things happen. This is why I often didn't take them - Kyrie succumbed to Morinth and dropped the ammo. I like to think that sometimes she gets tongue-tied. Makes Horizon make more sense to me.



"Whoa, whoa, wait. Brain going into meltdown. Too much hawtness."

[sesheta255]

Yeah I think he would join Shepard but not leave the Alliance. I don't think he'd burn all his bridges. Plus I still think he's working behind the scenes for Anderson and/or Hackett as the sort of 'go to' person to get the job done that was Shepard's role in ME1, and trying to find proof that the council will believe as well as gatting the iintel the Alliance needs to face the Reaper threat. I really think that they are working behind the scenes to help Shepard, whichis why Hackett issued the order to leave Shepard alone.

[Estelindis]

FireEye wrote...
Yes.  Shepard could have used some good, well-written wood on Horizon...

I see what you did there.

[NICKjnp]

sagequeen wrote...

Major Spoilers in my post: 

I think what Keiji (sp?) had was reaper data.

SPOILER PHOTO:



See? Totally a reaper. 

I think the Alliance is compiling info on it, maybe mobilizing in secret because they can't get the Council behind them?

This is why I don't read much into Anderson talking to the Cerberus guy in the video on LotSB. That could be a Cerberus double agent, an Alliance mole. Heck, he could even be part of shep's crew, keeping tabs on Shep. Has anyone checked out all the crew to see if he looks familiar? While it could be that Anderson is going to try and betray Shepard, I really don't think that's it. He's after the Reapers, but he's stuck and blinded by his eternal obsession with weaponry (remember in ME1? everything was about having bigger guns. guy's got a complex there).

Anyhow. That's my take. I think the Alliance is going to turn out to be tainted and mired in politics, but overall still trustworthy. I guess that's my take on most things military: secrets for understandable reasons, sometimes corrupt, but often pull through in the end.

I think it is a reaper as well.  It is possible that the council believes the reapers are real but doesn't want to support Shep because they are trying to keep it secret to avoid public panic.  Shepard is the one who likes to run around like Chicken Little yelling... "The Reapers are coming!  The Reapers are coming!"

[Geirahod]

I'd bet my money on that....that thing is a reaper.

There's something weird, really weird on all this....I hope we can figured out on the DLC's or on ME3.

[fortunesque]

I highly suspect that Anderson has acquired the VS as his secret agent that is searching for as much info as possible on the Reapers so that there can be eventual evidence that convince the Council of their existence. And someone high up in the Alliance (Hackett is most likely) has pulled the strings to get it done and keep the VS extremely secret.

[syllogi]

fortunesque wrote...

I highly suspect that Anderson has acquired the VS as his secret agent that is searching for as much info as possible on the Reapers so that there can be eventual evidence that convince the Council of their existence. And someone high up in the Alliance (Hackett is most likely) has pulled the strings to get it done and keep the VS extremely secret.

I hope this is the case.  I keep thinking that they have to be saving Ashley/Kaidan for something really special in ME3.  I would weep bitter nerd tears if it never came to pass.

Is it weird that I keep thinking that we're going to find out that Kaidan is related to Anderson because of the picture in his office?  I mean, it's such a small bug, if that's what it is, that it could have been easily fixed in the patch, but it never was.  Maybe I'm just weird.  

[XX55XX]

Kaidan mystifies me somehow.

Personally, he is one of my least-liked characters in Mass Effect. I don't hate him or anything, and please don't take my judgement of him too harshly, but what makes him so appealing? I notice that many of the people who give a "10" in my character survey polls tend to be females. Is it because all of the other female-oriented love interests (Garrus et al) aren't all that great or anything, and Kaidan is the only "normal" guy out of all of them?

[fortunesque]

Kaidan isn't flashy and that's why I love him. He's the guy next door and to be frank, the "badass" types don't appeal to me at all. I'm attracted to guys that shut up, do their jobs, follow the rules, and have the integrity to admit that they're not hot sh!t.



So, that's why. He's a real man IMO. The rest don't do it for me.

[NICKjnp]

I like the idea that the VS is actually the second human spectre.

[FireEye]

Not that I ever get tired of repeating: He's a clever and intelligent, yet down to earth guy (who enjoys pulp sci-fi and network games).  He doesn't let his personal problems drag other people down and he endeavors to learn from past mistakes.  He's got an opinion, but isn't down your throat about it and is willing to listen before judging, which is always nice.  He's also got a nice sense of humor.  And he's a space wizard and can fix my Shep's technical things and he can patch her up when she needs patching up (which is somewhat often, given her attitude when it comes to running into hails of bullets).

In short, I'd love to be friends with him in RL.  In the game, the romance is a nice touch, but he'd still be my favorite character without it.

[fortunesque]

Also what FireEye said. There are lots of reasons that I like Kaidan.



@XX55XX- You're doing another survey? I filled it out