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[sagefic]

but then the SB would have been following up on KAsh. not sure if i want that.



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Modifié par sagequeen, 11 septembre 2010 - 04:56 .

[Jade5233]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware is smart enough to see that Ash and Kaidan have lots of fans and want to see them back.
I think Bioware expects people to use Horizon to move on, Ash and Kaidan's letters pretty much indicate that they think you will move on and they screwed up.

Hopefully people who waited are in for something nice, and Bioware rewards people who wait YEARS to see it end.

I think Kaidan's letter is written so that you can take it either way.  To me (being more of an "optomist") I see it as proof that he still cares and wants to continue on with the relationship.  Its just that he's hurt and confused.  That last section leaves Shepard and himself "a way out" which is so typically Kaidan.  I know that others took it as a sign to move on, though.
@Fort:  I'm curious.  I'm sure you've written this before but I can't remember your opinion specifically on the letter--being our most prominent "realist" and all.

And I hope so, too, Giggles.
BTW--no offense meant in the "token' comment

  TZ
 So because I don't want to be counted in that statistic, but I DO want to be counted as an exclusively FemShep player, I can't have any other romances in ME2 on any characters.  

I have one mShep.  I don't think that I will have another.  But he's going to stay faithful to Liara.  So there still will be no Paramour achievement or data sent to MW stating that I found the ME2 characters at all intriguing as they touted them to be.

Brody
Well then, I guess I just need to make more import FemSheps that all romance Kaidan and stay faithful. Ones that aren't soldiers. To balance out the statistics.  Assuming they still count.  This means I'll probably have to give up my Tali MShep playthrough.  I'll keep my faithful Ash though, if I ever get around to him (I'll need to start over again on him too, cause he's a soldier...maybe he'll be an engineer).
This'll be a fun couple of months.

There's no need to erase the character saves you already have.  The data mining occurs as you are playing.  So the stats have already been sent to BioWare

Brody
Kaidan definitely has more of a baby-face in ME1, judging by the photo above. ^

I think the lower res has a lot to do with it.  And the darker lighting of ME1.
But he's been mourning for Shepard's loss for about 2 years.  That and the extra weight of responsibility of his new position have taken a toll on him.
Still, though, he's awfully attractive in that Horizon clip when he's walking with *hisses* Lillith (Cerberus snitch that I now think she was). 

[Sialater]

*shrug* They can't get my stats. My XBOX is not hooked up to the internet. And the account I play on isn't either.

[Pacifien]

Sialater wrote...
*shrug* They can't get my stats. My XBOX is not hooked up to the internet. And the account I play on isn't either.

I'm not too worried about stats because I feel the game is really dictated on what Casey Hudson feels like doing. For instance, he wanted to blow up the Normandy SR1 and get a new ship for ME2. The developers then jump through hoops to work that into the story.

So stats are interesting, but they're gonna do what they're gonna do and probably alter only some aspects of the story to appease the fans. They were always going to have a squad of 12 for the suicide mission, so for fan service, they let Tali and Garrus be two of them. How will the stats influence ME3? Well, 80% of people playing a male Shepard doesn't mean only 20% of people created a female Shepard. It means 80% of the people playing the game created a male Shepard. I'm sure there's overlap of the same people creating a female Shepard as well.

So maybe 80% of the people "cheated" on their ME1 LI. (Picked that number out of my butt, don't know what it actually is.) That includes quite a few people cheating on Liara, and yet the developers did quite well on addressing that issue, I think. That 80% would include people who honestly wanted a new LI to people who were simply curious about the story of a new LI but intend to return to the original one. Tons of people have said they intend to do that with Liara now or regret every cheating on her.

As for myself, I do have a couple playthroughs to see the Garrus and Thane romances, but most of my imports do stick with Kaidan. I intend to deal with all three going into ME3. I roleplay different Shepards. I enjoy seeing all the different scenarios.

[Chignon]

Jade5233 wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...

Bioware is smart enough to see that Ash and Kaidan have lots of fans and want to see them back.
I think Bioware expects people to use Horizon to move on, Ash and Kaidan's letters pretty much indicate that they think you will move on and they screwed up.

Hopefully people who waited are in for something nice, and Bioware rewards people who wait YEARS to see it end.

I think Kaidan's letter is written so that you can take it either way.  To me (being more of an "optomist") I see it as proof that he still cares and wants to continue on with the relationship.  Its just that he's hurt and confused.  That last section leaves Shepard and himself "a way out" which is so typically Kaidan.  I know that others took it as a sign to move on, though.
@Fort:  I'm curious.  I'm sure you've written this before but I can't remember your opinion specifically on the letter--being our most prominent "realist" and all.

And I hope so, too, Giggles.
BTW--no offense meant in the "token' comment

I always thought of that message as an olive branch your Shepard can take or not and with Kaidan, as you said, characteristically leaving himself a way out if Shepard has indeed moved on.

Jade5233 wrote...

Brody
Kaidan definitely has more of a baby-face in ME1, judging by the photo above. ^

I think the lower res has a lot to do with it.  And the darker lighting of ME1.
But he's been mourning for Shepard's loss for about 2 years.  That and the extra weight of responsibility of his new position have taken a toll on him.
Still, though, he's awfully attractive in that Horizon clip when he's walking with *hisses* Lillith (Cerberus snitch that I now think she was). 

I hope Bioware'll take the time to explore what happened to Kaidan in the two years after Shepard's death. He does seem more weary and less "naive" than in ME1 on Horizon. Though it's hard to judge from a two minute cameo where some of the things he said were clearly more out of anger and disappointment than anything else.

Modifié par Chignon, 11 septembre 2010 - 01:02 .

[Geirahod]

I was tempted to try a romance with Garrus or Thane...but, I just couldn't do it.
Kaidan is too cute for me...so my femShep stays loyal to him, I hope he has done the same thing, It would be no funny find out that he was with more girls in those two years...¬¬

Modifié par Geirahod, 11 septembre 2010 - 02:37 .

[FireEye]

Geirahod wrote...

I was tempted to try a romance with Garrus or Thane...but, I just couldn't do it.
Kaidan is too cute for me...so my femShep stays loyal to him, I hope he has done the same thing, It would be no funny find out that he was with more girls in those two years...¬¬

Well.  He did think Shepard was dead, and he was kinda correct on that front.  We'd want him to find happiness if Shepard wasn't coming back.

But I don't think he was with other women in the interim.  It took him a long time to open up to Shepard, after all... she'd have to be pretty special to compare.  Besides, depending on when Cerberus started spreading rumors (sounds like about six months after Shepard died to me - long enough for them to secure the body and start preparing, and that's apparently when the Alliance started to get suspicious), he could have thought she was still alive (or he wanted to believe, as he says).

[sagefic]

@ Pac: That's interesting what you said about the Normady crash. I had gotten the feeling BW just did whatever they felt like, stats, fans, etc. taken into consideration, but ignored if it didn't fit the plan. No offense meant, but often fan suggestions are probably not the best for overall plot. I fully include myself in that statement.

[AkodoRyu]

I know it was a while ago, but you were discussing if Kaidan's texture changed in ME2. I dunno, call me blind, but I think it didn't. Maybe bumpmap was changed/sharpen to add more shapes and details, but the face texture alone wasn't retouched. I was looking at many different pictures, but I can't pinpoint any differences. Even that small shadow behind his ear(s) still looks like a birthmark.

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 11 septembre 2010 - 03:40 .

[Sialater]

Who cares? He's still a damned fine looking Marine.

[Collider]

Liara's model was updated in the LotSB DLC.

Would you want Kaidan's model updated in VS DLC? Or it should remain as is?

Modifié par Collider, 11 septembre 2010 - 03:39 .

[syllogi]

Collider wrote...

Liara's model was updated in the LotSB DLC.

Would you want Kaidan's model updated in VS DLC? Or it should remain as is?

It depends...I actually really like the high-res version of his facial texture in ME2 (I don't think it changed either, just was refined and given better resolution), but I wouldn't want a change that made him look weird, just for the sake of it.

I may be odd, but I'm really jealous of Samara's eyes, specifically the way the whites of her eyes (the sclera) are glossy and have veins, while all the other characters have flat, cardboard like, pure white sclera.  Little detail upgrades like that, I would like.  Giving him a whole new look would bother me.

Unless they do something really cool with his hair.  I'd adjust to that.

[AkodoRyu]

Collider wrote...

Liara's model was updated in the LotSB DLC.

Would you want Kaidan's model updated in VS DLC? Or it should remain as is?

He doesn't need any more changes to those that were already done. He looks great and more realistic now, it's just that lighting on Horizon was crappy from the angle he was shown on the screen. I did a lot of screens of him there with flycam, in all the places he stood but where we can't see him. The scene was constructed in a way Shepard's face could be highlighted and "nice", so even if not intended, Kaidan looked crappy when camera was on him.

Maybe some new armor customized especially for him, but overall, no, no changes.

[fortunesque]

I'd like to see them get rid of the strange bump on the back of his neck... possibly the top of the head bump too. His hair is not very refined at all; if you look at Akodo's photos, you can see sharp corners on the back of his hair. Most rounded objects in ME2 are more smoothed out and his hair is very out of place in that regard.

[NICKjnp]

I think they should put a mouth and sunglasses in his hair.

[AkodoRyu]

fortunesque wrote...

I'd like to see them get rid of the strange bump on the back of his neck... possibly the top of the head bump too. His hair is not very refined at all; if you look at Akodo's photos, you can see sharp corners on the back of his hair. Most rounded objects in ME2 are more smoothed out and his hair is very out of place in that regard.

I won't mention the lack of symmetry of the hairline on his forehead. Aw damn, I did it. It's receding stronger on the right side, Horizon light doesn't make it look any better. And I've never in my life seen  anyone with asymmetrical hairline, unless it was intentionally shaved.

[FireEye]

Perhaps the hair is merely a cosmetic snap on? XD

[Chignon]

Collider wrote...

Liara's model was updated in the LotSB DLC.

Would you want Kaidan's model updated in VS DLC? Or it should remain as is?

I actually like it the way it is. Of course, Bioware could refine it a bit more if they want to do so, but please, no drastic changes. I don't want to see Kaidan suddenly sporting a buzz cut and full beard.
I don't have so much a problem with his model as I do with the bad animation on Horizon. Bioware should focus on that instead of updating his model just for the sake of it. 

[FenrisDeSolar]

I like Kaidan's appearance just as he is now. The more rugged look we saw on Horizon really suited him, so I'm hoping that other than work a little on the texture, and evening out his hair, that they should keep him as he is.

[fortunesque]

I wonder what they'll do with his body... I mean, if we're going to have a romance scene, then he's totally going to be taking his shirt off...



NO JACOB STYLE TORSO, PLEASE!!!