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[NamiraWilhelm]

After flicking through the last few pages i have to say i just ordered KOTOR 2 a few days ago lol, its not looking good!

[Daewan]

To be perfectly honest, KoTOR II isn't that bad. The main problem is the gigantic hack job that they did when they ran out of time at the end. I liked the character of the Exile. I liked the way the story centered on the Exile and the relationships between the Exile and everyone that the Exile meets. My canon world has a female LS Revan and a female LS Exile (there's a shock, I know, I know) and while I felt totally cheated at not getting any sexy time with Atton, I still felt it was there.

Obsidian dropped the ball on the game, but it was a very big ball to start with. After the first playthrough, I went and looked up all the cut content. It made me sad, but it was very impressive that they managed to fit in as much as they did.

I do really wish that LucasArts had given them time to really finish, but part of me wonders if KoTOR II wouldn't have just ended up as Planescape in space if they had.

If nothing else, it gives you a lot of fodder for fanfic since there is so little that's actually IN the game.

Also, Kitty Kaidan.

[syllogi]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

After flicking through the last few pages i have to say i just ordered KOTOR 2 a few days ago lol, its not looking good!

I suggest reading the Star Wars wiki articles on KOTOR2 and the Exile, if you don't mind spoilers, or at least reading them after you've finished the game.  The game, as shipped, is incomplete, and many holes are filled in by reading background materials.

Another good way to experience KOTOR2 the way it should have been is to read through this:  Let's Play KOTOR 2.  It adds commentary about cut content, and adds depth to the story that simply isn't there when playing the vanilla game.  My only complaint would be that the player should have rolled a female character...

And of course, there is imagination, for thinking about what REALLY happened between Atton Rand and the Exile in MY canon version of the game.  You can bet it wasn't just endless hands of pazaak. 

[NamiraWilhelm]

Daewan wrote...

Aww, kitty Kaidan is awesome! Why couldnt the Khajiit in TES look like that  

[oenis]

Seriously, what is with the rushed endings? I especially noticed this in DAO. After the archdemon, there is such little dialogue or interaction with the people who impacted your character and game so much. When you compare to how well fleshed out most of DAO is (namely, Origin stories, returning 'home' etc) it feels sooo rushed and incomplete. I think they need to start making games backwards so the endings are satisfactory.

[Collider]

oenis wrote...

Seriously, what is with the rushed endings? I especially noticed this in DAO. After the archdemon, there is such little dialogue or interaction with the people who impacted your character and game so much. When you compare to how well fleshed out most of DAO is (namely, Origin stories, returning 'home' etc) it feels sooo rushed and incomplete. I think they need to start making games backwards so the endings are satisfactory.

The Archdemon was disappointing in general. Literally the boss fight was just kill the dragon. It seems like an afterthought.

[Sialater]

Collider wrote...

oenis wrote...

Seriously, what is with the rushed endings? I especially noticed this in DAO. After the archdemon, there is such little dialogue or interaction with the people who impacted your character and game so much. When you compare to how well fleshed out most of DAO is (namely, Origin stories, returning 'home' etc) it feels sooo rushed and incomplete. I think they need to start making games backwards so the endings are satisfactory.

The Archdemon was disappointing in general. Literally the boss fight was just kill the dragon. It seems like an afterthought.

The Human Reaper wasn't a lot better. 

"Kaidan yelled at me so I could fight this?"

[Chignon]

Sialater wrote...

The Human Reaper wasn't a lot better. 

"Kaidan yelled at me so I could fight this?"

My feelings exactly. I had to pause the game to laugh (or cry). That's what Shepard let Kaidan leave for in a huff? A human baby Reaper larva, which has an uncanny resemblance to a half finished terminator and gets injected with human smoothies?

[Giggles_Manically]

I was so confused that I headdesked at such speed I needed to pick the spacebar out of my forehead.

Lame Last Boss was lame.

[Chignon]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I was so confused that I headdesked at such speed I needed to pick the spacebar out of my forehead.
Lame Last Boss was lame.

Hah, I would have loved to see that!

Vasir was more of a challenge than this. I would've liked to have Kaidan at my Shepard's side during that fight.

Modifié par Chignon, 22 septembre 2010 - 09:09 .

[Reverie]

I found it amusing that the collectors spent all that time, and creamed all those people to make their baby reaper and it only takes you a couple of minutes to bring it down.

[Sialater]

Granted... I have no other ideas for what they should have done. I like the idea of the human reaper... it was the execution that bugged me.



This was not the thing that inspired Kaidan to say: "We're gonna need a bigger boot."

[Collider]

The human reaper WAS bad. Like Sialater said, it wasn't necessarily the concept, but the execution was just funny and...disappointing. For one thing, one would have to wonder at the practicality and point of building the Reaper to look human. Wouldn't the Reapers favor efficiency?





What it has over the Archdemon is that there is more dialog surrounding it before and after the fight.

[Jade5233]

Chignon wrote...




Sometimes love scenes before the finale can be nice, though.

Hey.  That's a new one.  His eyes are nice there. 

*shrugs*  Neither the Archdemon nor the Baby Reaper bothered me as boss fights.  Then again, I'm more into the story than in to the gameplay aspect.  But that's because, really, I suck at playing video games.

[Reverie]

Oh the boss fights don't bother me either. I just found it kind of amusing. Like you I'm not huge into the game play. Mainly because I suck pretty badly at them. The hardest level I have played at was veteran. I don't think I could manage hardcore or insanity.

[Sialater]

Well... if any of you play Guild Wars... I was heavily reminded of Abaddon.



Anyway... back to Kaidan... Shepard accused him once of being a Romantic. How far do y'all think that goes? I mean he can't be THAT idealistic since he's a marine, right?

[Collider]

He says himself that reading those novels made him hopeful. How idealist or realist Kaidan is is a little harder to read though.

[fortunesque]

I think the naive idealism wore off but he still prizes the ideas behind all of the books he used to read. Those would be the idea of helping others and trying to improve the world one good deed at a time.



From his dialog, he seems to be very in to helping people in any way that he can. I think it's ingrained in him.

[siriusrambles]

kaidan in his own words brought to you by the awesome poster brody:



Yeah, I read a lot of those books when I was a kid. Where the hero goes into space to prove himself worthy of the woman he loves. Or you know. For justice. Maybe I was a romantic in the beginning. But I thought about it after Brain Camp—ah, sorry, “Biotics Acclimation and Temperance Training. I’m not looking for the dream. I just want to do some good. See what’s out here. Sorry if I got too informal. Protocol wasn’t a big focus back in BAaT.

[Jade5233]

fortunesque wrote...

I think the naive idealism wore off but he still prizes the ideas behind all of the books he used to read. Those would be the idea of helping others and trying to improve the world one good deed at a time.

From his dialog, he seems to be very in to helping people in any way that he can. I think it's ingrained in him.

This.

And as the story goes along, you see the wearing away of the naive idealism that he did have--especially with how the Council continually fails to back up Shepard.

I'd say by Horizon its really worn thin.  But I think he kinda has to still hold onto it--he has to hold onto his relatively blind faith in the Alliance.  Because if he can't trust in that, then what's he go to believe in?

[sagefic]

Ariaya wrote...

I was just looking up meanings and origin for the name "Kaidan" and I found a few possibilities:
Kaidan - from Kaden (Arabic) meaning "companion
Kaidan - (English) Rebel, Fighter, Spirit of Battle
Kaidan - Kwaidan (Japanese) "ghost story"

I heard a mom calling for her son "Jaiden" the other day, also met a kid named Kaidan last week. Seems like it's a name that gaining some popularity right about now. So the first time I heard the name Kaidan, it gave me this weird impression that in 2183 (that's the time, right?) Kaidan would probably be this name that was popular about a hundred years before but had become a little old fashioned. like the name Henry or Charles. Somehow, that seemed to fit Kaidan's personality - just a little old fashioned

[syllogi]

siriusrambles wrote...

kaidan in his own words brought to you by the awesome poster brody:

Yeah, I read a lot of those books when I was a kid. Where the hero goes into space to prove himself worthy of the woman he loves. Or you know. For justice. Maybe I was a romantic in the beginning. But I thought about it after Brain Camp—ah, sorry, “Biotics Acclimation and Temperance Training. I’m not looking for the dream. I just want to do some good. See what’s out here. Sorry if I got too informal. Protocol wasn’t a big focus back in BAaT.

  How can you not love that guy???

This is why I worry about Kaidan's portrayal in the last game, however; despite being a decorated career soldier, he had not lost his optimism and basic morality.  After losing Shepard, and seeing the way the Council and the Alliance denied the existence of the Reapers, only to find out that Shepard (supposedly) has been alive all this time and working with an enemy, might make it easy to justify making him jaded and bitter.  I can see him changing outwardly, to a degree, but I hope that one on one, with Shepard, he can still be the guy she fell for back on the Normandy SR1.

I really liked that guy. 

[Celestria129]

sagequeen wrote...

Ariaya wrote...

I was just looking up meanings and origin for the name "Kaidan" and I found a few possibilities:
Kaidan - from Kaden (Arabic) meaning "companion
Kaidan - (English) Rebel, Fighter, Spirit of Battle
Kaidan - Kwaidan (Japanese) "ghost story"

I heard a mom calling for her son "Jaiden" the other day, also met a kid named Kaidan last week. Seems like it's a name that gaining some popularity right about now. So the first time I heard the name Kaidan, it gave me this weird impression that in 2183 (that's the time, right?) Kaidan would probably be this name that was popular about a hundred years before but had become a little old fashioned. like the name Henry or Charles. Somehow, that seemed to fit Kaidan's personality - just a little old fashioned

Kaidan my Knight in Shining Armor:wub:..........not PHOENIX!!!! lol could not reasist

[jillyfae]

My RA back at college had a sign on her door: "Chivalry and feminism are not mutually exclusive." I think that fits Kaidan. Respectful and chivalrous without ever thinking Shepard can't do anything she sets her mind to; he'll just help if he can.

[carilynn46]

 Just came by to show you guys my shepard that loves kaidan  her name is Sienna and I hope she is good enough for him  I mean he didn't have any complaints in the first game <_< lol