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[Jade5233]

Celestria129 wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Ariaya wrote...

I was just looking up meanings and origin for the name "Kaidan" and I found a few possibilities:
Kaidan - from Kaden (Arabic) meaning "companion
Kaidan - (English) Rebel, Fighter, Spirit of Battle
Kaidan - Kwaidan (Japanese) "ghost story"

I heard a mom calling for her son "Jaiden" the other day, also met a kid named Kaidan last week. Seems like it's a name that gaining some popularity right about now. So the first time I heard the name Kaidan, it gave me this weird impression that in 2183 (that's the time, right?) Kaidan would probably be this name that was popular about a hundred years before but had become a little old fashioned. like the name Henry or Charles. Somehow, that seemed to fit Kaidan's personality - just a little old fashioned

Kaidan my Knight in Shining Armor:wub:..........not PHOENIX!!!! lol could not reasist

Yeah.  He's a nice White Knight. 
It would be cool if he gets to fulfill that role in DLC of ME3 and rescue Shepard for once.
*happy sigh*
Can't you see him running to her aid in a cutscene like this:

Okay, well, perhaps a little more dressed than that, but this picture's just more fun. 

[Joisan]

There you go! A little more dressed. Mmmm... sexy abs showing through tight-fitting shirt.

[oenis]

Sialater wrote...

Granted... I have no other ideas for what they should have done. I like the idea of the human reaper... it was the execution that bugged me.

This was not the thing that inspired Kaidan to say: "We're gonna need a bigger boot."

I've never seen the Terminator movies so I am not bugged by the similarities most people seem to take issue with. I've seen BSG so the idea of organic/tech hybrid kind of appealed to me. I do hate the execution though, particularly the combat. Aiming for flipping moving holes the entire time drives me mental! I rather enjoy the epic cutscene at the end, though. 

It did strike me as odd though that even if you do the final battle with your LI in the group, they don't automatically become the one to catch Shepard as she flies through the air. 

[Nethershadow]

You know i find Kaidan a bit of a dillusional nut job in the 2nd one. Nothing like ignoring the obvious sledge hammer in the face facts of what is going on, and then he tries to blame game. I tell ya, not like i didn't save his sorry hide a million times in the first one. I think he need a hard dose of reality and a kick in the *ss come the 3rd one, because if he lips me off in the third one then, somone is going to get hurt real bad!

[fortunesque]

Nethershadow wrote...

You know i find Kaidan a bit of a dillusional nut job in the 2nd one. Nothing like ignoring the obvious sledge hammer in the face facts of what is going on, and then he tries to blame game. I tell ya, not like i didn't save his sorry hide a million times in the first one. I think he need a hard dose of reality and a kick in the *ss come the 3rd one, because if he lips me off in the third one then, somone is going to get hurt real bad!

Or you could try to think about it from his point of view. Shepard has randomly shown up working with terrorists after having died two years ago and he's supposed to immediately trust and drop everything (working for Anderson no less).

Could Kaidan have handled it better? Yeah, but look at the circumstances around what happened. It's an incredibly selfish thought pattern to assume that the world ought to revolve around Shepard. And it's incredibly immature to want to beat the crap out of someone that you've had a disagreement with. He outranks Shepard now and thinking that he ought to just shut up and follow is a bunch of bull.

[Collider]

Kaidan is in the Alliance and he has been promoted. Why should I blame him. He's still on duty.

[sagefic]

 bah, so after hours of tweaking, i got my main shep remade. *grin* perhaps another run and then insanity through ME2 will reward me with a kaidan DLC when all is said and done?

Ah...sharing a moment with Kaidan - with the dead body of nihilus in the background

[fortunesque]

sagequeen wrote...

 bah, so after hours of tweaking, i got my main shep remade. *grin* perhaps another run and then insanity through ME2 will reward me with a kaidan DLC when all is said and done?

Ah...sharing a moment with Kaidan - with the dead body of nihilus in the background

And Kaidan's all like, "Do you smell that?" 

[Nethershadow]

fortunesque wrote...

Nethershadow wrote...

You know i find Kaidan a bit of a dillusional nut job in the 2nd one. Nothing like ignoring the obvious sledge hammer in the face facts of what is going on, and then he tries to blame game. I tell ya, not like i didn't save his sorry hide a million times in the first one. I think he need a hard dose of reality and a kick in the *ss come the 3rd one, because if he lips me off in the third one then, somone is going to get hurt real bad!

Or you could try to think about it from his point of view. Shepard has randomly shown up working with terrorists after having died two years ago and he's supposed to immediately trust and drop everything (working for Anderson no less).

Could Kaidan have handled it better? Yeah, but look at the circumstances around what happened. It's an incredibly selfish thought pattern to assume that the world ought to revolve around Shepard. And it's incredibly immature to want to beat the crap out of someone that you've had a disagreement with. He outranks Shepard now and thinking that he ought to just shut up and follow is a bunch of bull.

Even looking at it from his view, which is a higher ranking "Alliance" officer which has no bearing to you at that point sinse you are not alliance military anymore, he could make the leaps of logic instead of leaping before you look conclusions. If you had set this up, does he really think you would just leave him by his lonesome self to survive while you and your crew leave? He knows if you wanted him too you and your squad could take him no prob to put with the rest of the colony peeps. Why also work to have the guns shoot the crap out of the ship when you could just take a bit longer to grab him and the mechanic for completeness. Depending how you chose, you might be listed as alive and reinstated among the living in alliance records. Others have heard of the rumors about you being back, so good chance he could too. The mechanic can also somewhat vouch for your actions.

I also did not suggest or say that the world evolves around sheperd, even if the game suggests this heavily. You are making up suggestions i did not suggest.

Also to call you a traitor and ignore all the evidence around him is very brazen and disrespectful of him, also considering your history and acomplishments togather. You might think it is immature, but accusing you of something as serious as being a traitor without proof and obvious evidence around him to the contrary can evoke a violent response and i think it is niave to think you can say anything you want to anyone without possible physical conflict arrising.. And i said if he keeps on that path for the 3rd then he can put his money where his mouth is.

You seem to put false words in my mouth and over exagerate, because i also did not say that he should shut up and follow either. All i'm asking for is that he act with some common sense of a higher ranking officer and prior friend who helped save the galaxy with ya. He acted ok in the first, but the 2nd i suspect it was tailored for this bit of conflict between old friends/comrades which seems forced. The 3rd may change that, or maybe his personality has evolved to his dillusional state. We will have to wait and see.

[JaerWolfe]

Nethershadow wrote...
Even looking at it from his view, which
is a higher ranking "Alliance" officer which has no bearing to you at
that point sinse you are not alliance military anymore, he could make
the leaps of logic instead of leaping before you look conclusions. If
you had set this up, does he really think you would just leave him by
his lonesome self to survive while you and your crew leave? He knows if
you wanted him too you and your squad could take him no prob to put
with the rest of the colony peeps. Why also work to have the guns shoot
the crap out of the ship when you could just take a bit longer to grab
him and the mechanic for completeness. Depending how you chose, you
might be listed as alive and reinstated among the living in alliance
records. Others have heard of the rumors about you being back, so good
chance he could too. The mechanic can also somewhat vouch for your
actions.

I also did not suggest or say that the world evolves
around sheperd, even if the game suggests this heavily. You are making
up suggestions i did not suggest.

Also to call you a traitor and ignore all the evidence around him is very brazen and
disrespectful of him, also considering your history and acomplishments
togather. You might think it is immature, but accusing you of something
as serious as being a traitor without proof and obvious evidence around
him to the contrary can evoke a violent response and i think
it is niave to think you can say anything you want to anyone without
possible physical conflict arrising.. And i said if he keeps on that
path for the 3rd then he can put his money where his mouth is.

You seem to put false words in my mouth and over exagerate, because i also
did not say that he should shut up and follow either. All i'm asking
for is that he act with some common sense of a higher ranking officer
and prior friend who helped save the galaxy with ya. He acted ok in the
first, but the 2nd i suspect it was tailored for this bit of conflict
between old friends/comrades which seems forced. The 3rd may change
that, or maybe his personality has evolved to his dillusional state. We
will have to wait and see.

I'm sorry, did you miss the part where Shepard joined a terrorist organization bent on human dominance of the universe once those pesky little Reapers are taken care of? It happened at the beginning of the game and they refer to it occassionally after that. Like every time you have debriefing. Or recruit someone. I think there was a logo involved too...
Face it, hon, Kaidan called it what it was...Shepard is a traitor to the Alliance. She works for Cerberus. A terrorist group. He was perfectly justified in what he said and for game/plot purposes Shepard stands there like a nitwit and lets him walk away.
I'm not sure if you're a troll or looking for enlightenment. I can ignore one and offer the other.

Modifié par JaerWolfe, 23 septembre 2010 - 05:14 .

[sesheta255]

Personally I think Kaidan was quite justified on Horizon. He's spent 2 years mourning Shepard and just started to get his life back together, then she turns up with Cerberus. Given that you both saw and fought against some of the things that Cerberus was up to in the first game, it's not out of the realm of possibility that he would be shocked and angry. If you remember in the first game he also told Shepard after they stole the Normandy that he wouldn't have stayed if he didn't think they were doing the right thing, so obviously he is a man who sticks to his principles. He's been stonewalled by Anderson about the rumours he's heard about Shepard, and TIM has been putting as much misinformation around as possible. Add to that the whole resurrection thing, which lets face it is pretty unbelievable. He's actually in a state of shock at seeing Shepard alive, and of course he's thinking the worst given how close they were. Shepard's lame dalogue doesn't help matters either, she comes across as the Cerberus poster/recruitment girl.



I actually think better of him for standing by his principles and not just following Shepard blindly because she's Shepard. By doing that he shows that his feelings for Shepard were real and not just a case of hero worship. To me its quite reasonable for him to think that Shepard faked her death and has been working with Cerberus for the last 2 years. He has to be wondering whether anything he believed about Shepard or shared with her was true or real at all.

[sagefic]

@ fort: ha! yes. exactly. another random screenshot



Jenkins: Wait. So, like, Cerberus is evil?
Shepard: Oh dear God.
Kaidan: Not this again.
Jenkins: I don't get it.
Shepard: Don't about it worry, kid. You're only in this game for a few more seconds anyway.  

re: Kaidan being at fault on horizon though, I personally find Kaidan's vs. Shepard's culpability well-balanced. she(he) DID join a terrorist organization and confirm every nasty rumor being spread about her (not her fault, but hey, she(he) did show up with cerberus) and kaidan DID overreact. totally human reaction, yes, but he did overreact. shepard deserved better from him. i hope he gets a chance to say so in a DLC. though shepard totally derped, so i hope she(he) gets a chance to say so in a DLC.

conclusion: this needs a DLC.

[syllogi]

Nethershadow wrote...
Even looking at it from his view, which is a higher ranking "Alliance" officer which has no bearing to you at that point sinse you are not alliance military anymore, he could make the leaps of logic instead of leaping before you look conclusions.

Part of the point of that scene is that Kaidan or Ashley are both very confused, angry, and not thinking clearly.  They were paralyzed only minutes before seeing Shepard.  So, no, they were probably not thinking logically.

If you had set this up, does he really think you would just leave him by his lonesome self to survive while you and your crew leave? He knows if you wanted him too you and your squad could take him no prob to put with the rest of the colony peeps. Why also work to have the guns shoot the crap out of the ship when you could just take a bit longer to grab him and the mechanic for completeness. Depending how you chose, you might be listed as alive and reinstated among the living in alliance records. Others have heard of the rumors about you being back, so good chance he could too. The mechanic can also somewhat vouch for your actions.

Kaidan does not accuse you of "setting up" Horizon.  He thinks you are working with Cerberus (and he is correct), and he thinks that Cerberus has something to do with the disappearance of the colonists (On this one occasion he is absolutely correct.  TIM leaked the information about Kaidan being on Horizon, betting that the Collectors would go there next, and he was right.  He was responsible for every human taken on Horizon.  Shepard is working for the person who did this).  He does not know that Shepard was raised from the dead (Shepard is unable to tell him this) and he does not know that Shepard is going on a suicide mission to stop the Collectors.  He is confused and angry, as I said before, and does not understand why you are working with Cerberus.  This is understandable.

I also did not suggest or say that the world evolves around sheperd, even if the game suggests this heavily. You are making up suggestions i did not suggest.

Also to call you a traitor and ignore all the evidence around him is very brazen and disrespectful of him, also considering your history and acomplishments togather. You might think it is immature, but accusing you of something as serious as being a traitor without proof and obvious evidence around him to the contrary can evoke a violent response and i think it is niave to think you can say anything you want to anyone without possible physical conflict arrising.. And i said if he keeps on that path for the 3rd then he can put his money where his mouth is.

Look at your second paragraph, you use words like "disrespectful" and "brazen", which seem to imply that Shepard is owed respect automatically.  IF Shepard would have faked his own death and was working for Cerberus for the last two years, he would not deserve any kind of free pass for his behavior.  Yes, it would have been nice if Kaidan or Ashley would have stopped and listened at that point, but that's not how the scene was written, and Shepard did not attempt to convince Kaidan of his innocence.  You should blame the writers for not allowing your character to have the same powers of persuasion he has in the rest of the game in that scene, rather than blaming Kaidan for not immediately understanding what you are doing with Cerberus.

You seem to put false words in my mouth and over exagerate, because i also did not say that he should shut up and follow either. All i'm asking for is that he act with some common sense of a higher ranking officer and prior friend who helped save the galaxy with ya. He acted ok in the first, but the 2nd i suspect it was tailored for this bit of conflict between old friends/comrades which seems forced. The 3rd may change that, or maybe his personality has evolved to his dillusional state. We will have to wait and see.

Well, that is why we have this thread.  We liked Kaidan in the first game, and while we might HATE Horizon, many of us also respect his character for saying what we were thinking about Shepard being employed by Cerberus.  We also are mad that our Shepards were not allowed to say what we wanted to say in that scene.  So we are all waiting to see what Kaidan's role in the last game is.  Because this is a "support" thread, most, if not all of us are hoping that he has a good role, and we are able to get closure regarding Horizon.  Hopefully his actions will make more sense to everyone then.

[fortunesque]

Nethershadow wrote...

Even looking at it from his view, which is a higher ranking "Alliance" officer which has no bearing to you at that point sinse you are not alliance military anymore, he could make the leaps of logic instead of leaping before you look conclusions. If you had set this up, does he really think you would just leave him by his lonesome self to survive while you and your crew leave? He knows if you wanted him too you and your squad could take him no prob to put with the rest of the colony peeps. Why also work to have the guns shoot the crap out of the ship when you could just take a bit longer to grab him and the mechanic for completeness. Depending how you chose, you might be listed as alive and reinstated among the living in alliance records. Others have heard of the rumors about you being back, so good chance he could too. The mechanic can also somewhat vouch for your actions.

I also did not suggest or say that the world evolves around sheperd, even if the game suggests this heavily. You are making up suggestions i did not suggest.

Also to call you a traitor and ignore all the evidence around him is very brazen and disrespectful of him, also considering your history and acomplishments togather. You might think it is immature, but accusing you of something as serious as being a traitor without proof and obvious evidence around him to the contrary can evoke a violent response and i think it is niave to think you can say anything you want to anyone without possible physical conflict arrising.. And i said if he keeps on that path for the 3rd then he can put his money where his mouth is.

You seem to put false words in my mouth and over exagerate, because i also did not say that he should shut up and follow either. All i'm asking for is that he act with some common sense of a higher ranking officer and prior friend who helped save the galaxy with ya. He acted ok in the first, but the 2nd i suspect it was tailored for this bit of conflict between old friends/comrades which seems forced. The 3rd may change that, or maybe his personality has evolved to his dillusional state. We will have to wait and see.

Shepard *is* a traitor by working for Cerberus. The proof is right there when Shepard stands in front of him, working with Cerberus. Cerberus is a terrorist organization. 

Saving the colony means nothing as it would be a Cerberus goal. I don't see how that counts as evidence for or against Shepard. What makes you think that the mechanic can vouch for Shepard in any way? So he had a conversation with Shepard. That proves absolutely nothing.

Kaidan has heard the rumors and didn't say that he knew for sure that Shepard was alive and working with Cerberus. In fact, TIM lets Shepard know that he was the one that started the rumors that Shepard was working with Cerberus. 

I'm not putting words in your mouth in the least. You're the one that said this:

Nethershadow wrote...
I think he need a hard dose of reality and a kick in the *ss come the 3rd one, because if he lips me off in the third one then, somone is going to get hurt real bad!

That's wanting to beat the crap out of him for Horizon. I'm saying that it's selfish to assume that everyone ought to believe Shepard immediately even though Shepard randomly shows up out of the blue and is working with a terrorist organization. 

In light of those circumstances, I'd say that Kaidan is justified in not trusting Shepard immediately. 

You also said that he was "brazen and disrespectful" as if he's not Shepard's peer or former colleague. That word choice means that Kaidan needs to learn his station and respect his betters. A synonym for brazen is insolent.  That's where I got the idea that you think that everything should revolve around Shepard instead of the bigger picture. 

Kaidan doesn't deny that the Collectors are abducting humans. He doesn't deny that they're connected with the reapers. He's not ignoring any of the facts presented to him because he's seen the evidence for them. He says that he'll have to report that information to the council, meaning that he has a very important position, possibly that of a Spectre.

He doesn't see the fact that Shepard is forced to work with Cerberus because there is absolutely no proof of it other than words, and words don't mean a lot when someone's been dead for two years and shows up working with terrorists.

[Nethershadow]

Well the evidence i was suggesting was the mass of husks and alien pods all around them. The suggestion that Cerberus the "pro human terrorists" don't usually do things like kidnapping entire human colony's, and the biggest sign is that no way is the pro human cerberess working with alien collectors. The fact that a collector ship and collector bodies that you put down are all around you.



We also don't know how long Kaidan has been up as we only see him come running out. (haven't watched that part for a while so details may be off)



He's been on the secret mission sinse the start of the game, and you go to citadael to talk to anderson; the subject of you meeting with the council has made the council aware of you, others have heard about you (messages as the game goes) and for an officer in charge of a large project would have been informed of you long before you showing up. Anderson has tried to assist you by telling the council of what you think is happening, even though they don't believe it.



And you assume i dislike Kaidan, but i'm not blindly ignoring things, as i do like the character established in the first, but in the 2nd he is acting like an emotional civillian instead of a military officer who shouldn't be ignoring all clues around him and any possible counter points you make to explain the situation, nor you actions of taking on the collectors (which he may not have any knowledge of based on his introduction to the ending). To many glaring contraditions to ignore and just assume. I like to believe they don't promote officers to higher ranks that just jump the gun and assume conclusions when there is many clue's all around them and contradiction to thier assumptions.



Yes you are back from MIA, as they never had a body to say you are officially dead, and your working with a well known pro human terrorist group, but there is a massive alien spaceship and piles of collectors and other freakshow husks which Kaidan has seen simular before all around them. Kaidan is also not unfamiliar with to alien forces trying to conquerer the galaxy and has encountered the husks before; which he should be able to easily conclude there is way more going on here than what he originally thought.



So i like Kaidan, just not how he was done in the second, as to me it seems too much like tv emotional soap opera reaction and not enough seen some chit in the galaxy alliance officer tenacity. Just because you suggest that you will support Kaidan blindly to the situation because you like him, i at least can offer constructive criticism of him. And yes, kick in the *ss meaning, knock some sense into him and stop assuming.

[Selenora]

I love kaidan. I will always do. I remained faithfull. And then i started LOSB.

Liara saved me/recovered my dead body. (And we werent even friends...........)

What kaidan was doing? He loved me but he thought: ok shes declaired dead.lets spend 2 years trying to recover from her loss...........

I know liara saved me for its the male shep main love interst........but what about the rest of us?

Im kind of sad right know......................but i still love him..............

ok..............nvm that.............

[Collider]

Generally speaking when people are dead they stay dead. I like that Kaidan didn't try to chase after the dead.

[Nethershadow]

fortunesque wrote...

Nethershadow wrote...

Even looking at it from his view, which is a higher ranking "Alliance" officer which has no bearing to you at that point sinse you are not alliance military anymore, he could make the leaps of logic instead of leaping before you look conclusions. If you had set this up, does he really think you would just leave him by his lonesome self to survive while you and your crew leave? He knows if you wanted him too you and your squad could take him no prob to put with the rest of the colony peeps. Why also work to have the guns shoot the crap out of the ship when you could just take a bit longer to grab him and the mechanic for completeness. Depending how you chose, you might be listed as alive and reinstated among the living in alliance records. Others have heard of the rumors about you being back, so good chance he could too. The mechanic can also somewhat vouch for your actions.

I also did not suggest or say that the world evolves around sheperd, even if the game suggests this heavily. You are making up suggestions i did not suggest.

Also to call you a traitor and ignore all the evidence around him is very brazen and disrespectful of him, also considering your history and acomplishments togather. You might think it is immature, but accusing you of something as serious as being a traitor without proof and obvious evidence around him to the contrary can evoke a violent response and i think it is niave to think you can say anything you want to anyone without possible physical conflict arrising.. And i said if he keeps on that path for the 3rd then he can put his money where his mouth is.

You seem to put false words in my mouth and over exagerate, because i also did not say that he should shut up and follow either. All i'm asking for is that he act with some common sense of a higher ranking officer and prior friend who helped save the galaxy with ya. He acted ok in the first, but the 2nd i suspect it was tailored for this bit of conflict between old friends/comrades which seems forced. The 3rd may change that, or maybe his personality has evolved to his dillusional state. We will have to wait and see.

Shepard *is* a traitor by working for Cerberus. The proof is right there when Shepard stands in front of him, working with Cerberus. Cerberus is a terrorist organization. 

Saving the colony means nothing as it would be a Cerberus goal. I don't see how that counts as evidence for or against Shepard. What makes you think that the mechanic can vouch for Shepard in any way? So he had a conversation with Shepard. That proves absolutely nothing.

Kaidan has heard the rumors and didn't say that he knew for sure that Shepard was alive and working with Cerberus. In fact, TIM lets Shepard know that he was the one that started the rumors that Shepard was working with Cerberus. 

I'm not putting words in your mouth in the least. You're the one that said this:

Nethershadow wrote...
I think he need a hard dose of reality and a kick in the *ss come the 3rd one, because if he lips me off in the third one then, somone is going to get hurt real bad!

That's wanting to beat the crap out of him for Horizon. I'm saying that it's selfish to assume that everyone ought to believe Shepard immediately even though Shepard randomly shows up out of the blue and is working with a terrorist organization. 

In light of those circumstances, I'd say that Kaidan is justified in not trusting Shepard immediately. 

You also said that he was "brazen and disrespectful" as if he's not Shepard's peer or former colleague. That word choice means that Kaidan needs to learn his station and respect his betters. A synonym for brazen is insolent.  That's where I got the idea that you think that everything should revolve around Shepard instead of the bigger picture. 

Kaidan doesn't deny that the Collectors are abducting humans. He doesn't deny that they're connected with the reapers. He's not ignoring any of the facts presented to him because he's seen the evidence for them. He says that he'll have to report that information to the council, meaning that he has a very important position, possibly that of a Spectre.

He doesn't see the fact that Shepard is forced to work with Cerberus because there is absolutely no proof of it other than words, and words don't mean a lot when someone's been dead for two years and shows up working with terrorists.

As you also said, "rumours" which are not fact. Yes he is with some Cerberus insignia allies though you have the option i believe to say your not working with cerberus. You try to tell him your here to save the colony (could slightly change depending on you choices) and he's more upset at the possibility that you might be working with terrorists which might have just helped save/attemp something of the colony than he is about the collector issue.

But the one part i think most missed here, was the side joke and lightness to the comment about kicking his ass as i was qouting comedian Russel Peters line about "someone is going to get hurt real bad" which i am guessing no one has here has seen his shows to catch that comment as it has been referred to in a more serious tone.

[Selenora]

Collider wrote...

Generally speaking when people are dead they stay dead. I like that Kaidan didn't try to chase after the dead.

Liara did though...................

i did it too.i went back and i collected the dogtags from the dead crew wich were there for 2 years...........noone cared to go and pick them up......jeez........

Modifié par Selenora, 23 septembre 2010 - 06:27 .

[Collider]

Kaidan has his own life. He is a career man and has a duty to the Alliance. Liara however latched onto Shepard pretty quickly. She has no real commitments.

[TheodoricFriede]

I always liked Kaiden, he was a friendly, stable character who managed to remain interesting. I always saved him instead of Ashly.

I hope he returns in mass effect 3, or better yet some dlc.

[Nethershadow]

Collider wrote...

Generally speaking when people are dead they stay dead. I like that Kaidan didn't try to chase after the dead.

Your right, but no one saw him die. Joker saw him shunted into space in a full enviromental suit which he was unaware was damage. So if you heard how person x (sheperd) was still alive, wouldn't you think that he was picked up / rescued in some way instead of dying only to be brought back to life with some unheard of technology and what is the odds of that even being possible because until now it has probably never been done to human or many of the other current races.

Most likely conclusion is he would have been captured by the "unknown" vessel and he's managed to escape ext

[Collider]

Your right, but no one saw him die. Joker saw him shunted into space in a full enviromental suit which he was unaware was damage

Honestly if I saw that, I'd think Shepard was dead. So far as being captured goes, I'm not sure the Collectors had started abducting people by then. The game makes it sound like it's a recent thing. The Collectors honestly just looked like they wanted to kill Shepard - if they wanted to capture her blowing up her ship is a pretty stupid way to do so.