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[syllogi]

Joisan wrote...

I second what Teen said. Though I heard good things about Leliana's Song as far as DA DLC. But I'm pinning my hopes right now on potential VS DLC and lots of Kaidan in ME3, and TOR.

Yeah, I did like Leliana's Song, but the writer, Lukas Kristjanson (sp!?) works on both games, so ME fans are lucky that way.  It was very different from the norm for DA:O, but really did a lot in such a small DLC.  It also made me love Leliana, where I had just found her cute before.  But the others I bought were not impressive, and after Awakening, I said no more, and have kept to that promise.

But!  As I said, I really like ME2's DLC.  I can't wait to see what they come up with next.  Even though I've said I'm not that crazy about the main plot of ME2, the individual stories were great, and I think that's why the DLC has been so good.  Having one main writer for each module probably helps too.

So will anyone be *really* angry or upset if the next DLC announced isn't the Virmire Survivor DLC?  I'd be disappointed, but we did get Overlord before LotSB.  Unless they announce something and say it's the last before ME3, I'll have hope.  And if we don't get the DLC, at least my hopes haven't been dashed for Kaidan being a teammate.

The power of positive thinking!  

[Reverie]

I liked Leliana's Song as well. It helped me see her character a bit differently then I normally did. I also didn't mind Warden's Keep. Everything else.. no comment. Although I hate to admit it but I didn't mind Awakening. However I didn't have very high hopes for it either, so maybe that helped.



Regarding a VS DLC I would truly like to see something. I won't be angry if they don't release a DLC for them, though I might be a smidgen disappointed. I know that I won't get my hopes up though. And I'll be happy as long as Kaidan returns in the third as a squad mate. If not, all bets are off.

[Giggles_Manically]

Outside of Shale, Warden's Keep and Leliana's song all the ME2 DLC blows the DA DLC out of the water.

[CuzImShort]

TeenZombie wrote...
So will anyone be *really* angry or upset if the next DLC announced isn't the Virmire Survivor DLC?  I'd be disappointed, but we did get Overlord before LotSB.  Unless they announce something and say it's the last before ME3, I'll have hope.  And if we don't get the DLC, at least my hopes haven't been dashed for Kaidan being a teammate.

I won't be mad, just disappointed. I mean, I expect we won't be hearing from another major DLC for a while, but I have high hopes for a VS DLC. Two years(or less than now) is a long time to wait and see what becomes of Kaidan or to leave the romance unresolved if we do have to wait til ME3. *twiddles thumbs*

Modifié par CuzImShort, 07 octobre 2010 - 04:59 .

[Aggie Punbot]

I'd be extremely disappointed. It just doesn't seem particularly fair that one love interest from the first game is given such fabulous treatment and the other two are not only completely ignored regarding DLC but are given poor treatment by Shepard in ME2 itself.

[Jean]

Chignon wrote...

siriusrambles wrote...

oenis wrote...

Brodyaha wrote...
That one a person mentioned where Shepard is pregnant with Thane's child and Kaidan kidnaps her?  Talk about shockfic.

Is that the one where Kaikai is all evil and OOC? I remember reading a fic like that but I couldn't find it. Can you link plox?

there are lots of fics with kaidan written completely opposite of his established persona.  i have no idea why authors waste time penning up something grossly inaccurate because they dislike his character.  then they post it in kaidan's fanfic section.  they also do it with his fanart. 

now i'm not naive and think he appeals to the masses.  however, duping his fanbase into reading stories and looking at sketches that belittle him and his fans under the guise of art is just infantile.   

Yes, I know what you mean. It's horrible. That fanfic where Shepard is with Thane, pregnant with his child and Kaidan kidnapps her - words fail me. Yes, that sounds very much like something Kaidan would do.

[RPGmom28]

I also read a fanfic where Zaeed was in a sexmance with Shepard and Kaidan went postal. Very odd. I like Zaeed a lot, but I don't see Kaidan wigging out over Shepard moving on.

[Chignon]

TS2Aggie wrote...

I'd be extremely disappointed. It just doesn't seem particularly fair that one love interest from the first game is given such fabulous treatment and the other two are not only completely ignored regarding DLC but are given poor treatment by Shepard in ME2 itself.

Agreed.

Kaidan and Ash have been getting the short end of the stick constantly since the end of ME1. And even before as we were forced to let one of them die on Virmire while all other squadmates can be kept alive in both games. They get a badly written and animated cameo in ME2 and then are mostly ignored for the rest of the game.
DLC has also been very disappointing so far with no mention in Kasumi's DLC while every other LI got at least one and a mention in LotSB that could be easily missed if you picked the wrong option.

[RubyRed1975]

I have come to the conclusion that Ash/Kaidan will be ignored simply because they are human. If they had been any other species I bet alot of people would love them to pieces. And DLC would have been in works for them from the beginning. I will be extremely upset if they do not give us the opportunity to resolve some of the issues with the VS in a DLC.

I know that Jesse Houston (Is that right?) stated that all the LI's are important but, I'll believe it when I see it <_< I seriously hope that we do not have to wait until ME3 to resolve our relationship with the VS. Because IMO ME3 should be about gathering allies for the reaper invasion and not running around recruiting new team members and doing freaking loyalty missions

Modifié par RubyRed1975, 07 octobre 2010 - 12:14 .

[Jade5233]

RPGmom28 wrote...

I also read a fanfic where Zaeed was in a sexmance with Shepard and Kaidan went postal. Very odd. I like Zaeed a lot, but I don't see Kaidan wigging out over Shepard moving on.

I don't know that I agree.
I think that Kaidan would probably think he would be fair minded.  He would try to be fair minded.  And he'd be hurt and possibly a bit angry.  "postal" would likely be a bit much, though.

His reaction would likely be tempered by whom Shepard chose to replace him, too. 

I think that with Garrus, Kaidan would be angry with Garrus but not with Shepard.  Garrus knew that she and Kaidan were together.  But Garrus was there for Shepard when she needed a shoulder to lean on and Kaidan was not.  Kaidan would likely more blame himself for not being there and Garrus for stepping in, but be understanding of Shepard.

[Chignon]

avalon30 wrote...

I'm interested to see how Bioware will handle this in ME3 (or a VS DLC, though I'm in the doubter camp this week at least). My guess is that any unfaithful Shepard will get a similar reaction from the ME LI regardless of whom s/he chose to romance in ME2. It would be really interesting if Bioware did incorporate different possibilities for the different ME2 LIs, however.

I'm also curious as to whether it would be possible for unfaithful Shep to rekindle a romance with the original LI. (Though none of mine are unfaithful Sheps, it will be interesting to find out what befalls the "cheaters.") Again, my guess is that it won't be possible.

I think everything really hinges on that photo and whether or not it remains standing. I actually think that's the only reason we got a photo-- as a method for measuring our Shep's faithfulness and as a tease for what will come to pass in ME3.

To be completely honest, I want "cheating" to have real consequences as in being unable to continue the relationship if you cheated.

From what I saw, I didn't like how it was handled at all in LotSB, where you had to decide between Liara and the new LI during a conversation with Liara and everything was forgiven if you picked her. You could continue your romance as if nothing happened at all and had a chance to sleep with Liara if you chose to do so.

I guess you're right about the reason for the picture being there, avalon.  

[Sialater]

Liara's a bit more "open-minded" than Ash or Kaidan. She was willing to have the three-way, after all. So I don't find that out of character for her at all.



I'll let y'all know how Meghan fares. But... I do think if you moved on to Garrus or Tali, there should be bigger? Or at least different? Repercussions than if you moved on with Thane or Jacob.

[Chignon]

I didn't say it was out of character, I simply don't like the way it was handled. I found it odd and out of place that Shepard can sleep with her basically right after picking her over the one you cheated with.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that I agree with the idea that different characters should react differently.

Modifié par Chignon, 07 octobre 2010 - 01:32 .

[Sialater]

Ah. Well, I'll never romance Liara, so I'll take your word for it. But just to paraphrase Ross Gellar, they were on a break!

[FenrisDeSolar]

Chignon wrote...

I didn't say it was out of character, I simply don't like the way it was handled. I found it odd and out of place that Shepard can sleep with her basically right after picking her over the one you cheated with.

EDIT: Just wanted to add that I agree with the idea that different characters should react differently.

I believe this is what you call fanservice...?

And I agree as well. If you've had a relationship with Garrus or Tali, Liara should've reacted to it differently. And Kaidan and Ashley should definitely react differently to them, as compared to anyone else.

But I somewhat think their reactions should be milder than if you chose either Miranda or Jacob, because they're Cerberus. 

[Estelindis]

I'm also interested in the possible consequences for cheating. I'd like them to be serious, but from LotSB it doesn't look like they will be. (And, honestly, much as I love Ash/Kai, I think that if anyone has the right to be miffed at Shepard for moving on then it's Liara. You can see Liara in Illium at any time, even if she doesn't say much - it's not like the "you seemed fairly annoyed at me and I don't know if we'll see each other again" situation with Kaidan or Ashley. Plus, Liara kinda did save Shepard...)

[Chignon]

Sialater wrote...

Ah. Well, I'll never romance Liara, so I'll take your word for it. But just to paraphrase Ross Gellar, they were on a break!

I never romanced her either, I just saw the romance on youtube and found that a bit jarring. Aaand since we were on the topic of cheating anyway, I thought I'd add my two cents. (:

Agreed with both of you, Fenris and Estelindis.

[Estelindis]

Like you, Chignon, I never romanced Liara - but I thought that the romance scenes from LotSB, which I saw on YouTube, were very sweet.



Sia is right to mention that Liara is a bit more open-minded when it comes to exclusivity, though. Maybe we will get a different treatment if our Shepards have strayed. (Academic for me; cheating is just one of many things I can never make my Shep do.) I just wonder if Ash or Kai possibly getting miffed at cheaters is just gonna be one more thing for people who don't like their characters to hold against them. But, then again, such people will always find an excuse.

[Chignon]

Estelindis wrote...

Like you, Chignon, I never romanced Liara - but I thought that the romance scenes from LotSB, which I saw on YouTube, were very sweet.

They were sweet. I meant jarring in context of Shepard cheating on her - in my opinion at least. That being said I really hope Bioware will handle it differently for each character. I don't see some of them being as forgiving or open minded as Liara.

[oenis]

I haven't played LotSB in a bit: if you cheat on Liara in ME2, can you get back with her in the DLC? And if you do get back with her, what happens to the ME2 romance? I've never romanced her either.

Modifié par oenis, 07 octobre 2010 - 02:22 .

[RGC_Ines]

Im sory, but I don't take a new romances in ME2 as a "cheating" ME1 LIs..My Shepard was dead by two years, I never expected that Kaidan/Ash will mourn my Shep for the rest of theirs lifes and for me it's normal, that they are trying to date with new persons. So Im not angry about doctor from Citadel, Im not angry that they moved on, and have theirs new life, becouse for me, after those two years in coma ours relationship is just over. So my Shep have right to move on and try to build a new relationship with new partners. The only thing I miss in ME2 is a possibility to tell Kaidan/Ash clear, that we are done, i.e on Horizon, or as an answer for theirs mails..

[Celestria129]

:innocent:

[Sialater]

It's not "cheating" for Meghan and Avery, either. But, Avery couldn't move on. Meghan... thinks she's over Kaidan. She's really not, but now she's torn between him and Garrus. I have no idea how that will end.