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#5901
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fortunesque wrote...

Also, my fic is turning down a very strange and dark path...


I like dark...bring it on.;)

Modifié par MICHELLE7, 02 mars 2010 - 08:34 .


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I bring love from the Ash thread, Liam says hi!

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BECC4 wrote...

shotgun-shepard wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

It was Kaidan.


Kaidan...he's...he's a ninja? A ninja biotic? :ph34r:<3

I WANT ME A NINJA BIOTIC IN ME3!!


Lol, Biotic ninja FTW! Image IPB

(Don't you think the blue glow would give him away though?)


...ah. *imagery of Kaidan sneaking up on Shepard and...failing:pinched:; "I saw your 'aura' coming'"*

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sapphyreelf wrote...

Ok, well, I'm out until I get home later... and then maybe... hopefully I'll drink myself into a stupor.
Not even nekkid Kaidan can help me right now. :(


Oooh, that reminds me, I need to buy more wine. We're blowing through pages pretty fast here, think we'll hit 250 by tomorrow?

Sapph, I'm afraid your words have displeased the Commander:

Do not underestimate the power of nekkid Kaidan!
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Lisa_H wrote...
Truth to be told I had to look twice that it was correctly spelled :innocent:

Love this pic. Wish I could draw like that

Haha -  Bri and Brij are always acceptable as well ;)
I know, I wish I was an artist like that, too.

Darazelly wrote...

crimsonrhodelia wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

Random: How do you think Kaidan and Shepard would have interacted as kids?


Shep
would be the cool popular girl with all the fun ideas, rallying the
neighbourhood kids for mischief...Kaidan would be the shy boy who, much
to his own surprise, quickly becomes her supportive right man and who's
secretly harbouring a HUGE crush on her - but he's just one of the boys
to her[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie] until teenage hormones hit. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Also,
I don't think we ever had a locker scene gif, did we? To the best of my
knowledge, we only have...oh hell, I'll just post it, much more fun
this way:


../../../uploads_group/2000/1137/2551.gif

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]


Argh, AU fanfic idea. That was such an interesting idea.


Darazelly: do ittttt!! I'll read! :D

crimsonrhodelia: posting is much better than describing, good call. I vote we nominate someone to make an almost-kiss .gif ... I wouldn't mind doing it, but I don't know how. :?

Modifié par Brijenieve, 02 mars 2010 - 08:44 .


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crimsonrhodelia wrote...


Hello. Went around the net looking for more hope. Might have found
some.  Hope its ok to share this. This is from a Q&A with Casey
Hudson on giantbomb.com.

www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-2/61-21590/mass-effect-2-qa-with-producer-casey-hudson/35-382636/

CaseyH-ME2: While Mass Effect fans have grown to love our characters,
you can imagine that after spending years crafting them, we have at
least as much of an attachment to them. So it's definitely not a case
of the team disregarding player's decisions with them or interest in
those characters - in fact, it's the opposite...

CaseyH-ME2: We
actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story,
which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost
certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable
(more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an
important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't
say for the new characters.

CaseyH-ME2: Finally, if
you are worried about the role of the ME1 love interest in the trilogy,
consider that the romance itself is told across the trilogy, in 3 acts.
Apply the 3-act concept to what's happening in your relationship with
them, and you might guess where we're going with it.


I wonder if they mean the new ME2 characters definitely won't be back for ME3 or that  they might not be back since they can be killed? 

Also sounds like the ME1 LI's are the ones that they are focusing on in terms of romance...you can't have a 3 arc romance story with characters that are in only 2 games. They probably had a plan all along...I just hope they implement it better than the romances they did in ME2.

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*crawls back up her chair* O boy, had over 10 pages to catch up, but can't stop laughing and giggling like mad...

@ Gerbil story: I've got pet rats, they are just like that! It's rodent conspiracy! (Now just get that hamster in ME2...)

@ New fanart: *swoons and jumps further down the gutter*

@ interview: now that catches my interest... looks like we'll see more Kaikai yumminess in ME3 then! *dances happily around* :wizard:

Modifié par Mahumia, 02 mars 2010 - 08:46 .


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crimsonrhodelia wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

Ok, well, I'm out until I get home later... and then maybe... hopefully I'll drink myself into a stupor.
Not even nekkid Kaidan can help me right now. :(


Oooh, that reminds me, I need to buy more wine. We're blowing through pages pretty fast here, think we'll hit 250 by tomorrow?

Sapph, I'm afraid your words have displeased the Commander:

Do not underestimate the power of nekkid Kaidan!


Ooo. Star Wars. Darth Vader. Kaidan. Anakin. Kaidan. :huh:Add Wookiees to that ninja biotic list (this is only as unreasonable as requesting that Samus Aran replace Zaeed as your resident bounty hunter, ok...)

Sorry I just re-read and realised how random that was. Back on track; so Kaidan has Cinderella's 'Prince Charming' hair and Shepard/Jen was Cinderella in 2 and 3= they just have to have a Disney ending, with confetti and mice right...

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

crimsonrhodelia wrote...


Hello. Went around the net looking for more hope. Might have found
some.  Hope its ok to share this. This is from a Q&A with Casey
Hudson on giantbomb.com.

www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-2/61-21590/mass-effect-2-qa-with-producer-casey-hudson/35-382636/

CaseyH-ME2: While Mass Effect fans have grown to love our characters,
you can imagine that after spending years crafting them, we have at
least as much of an attachment to them. So it's definitely not a case
of the team disregarding player's decisions with them or interest in
those characters - in fact, it's the opposite...

CaseyH-ME2: We
actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story,
which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost
certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable
(more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an
important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't
say for the new characters.

CaseyH-ME2: Finally, if
you are worried about the role of the ME1 love interest in the trilogy,
consider that the romance itself is told across the trilogy, in 3 acts.
Apply the 3-act concept to what's happening in your relationship with
them, and you might guess where we're going with it.


I wonder if they mean the new ME2 characters definitely won't be back for ME3 or that  they might not be back since they can be killed? 

Also sounds like the ME1 LI's are the ones that they are focusing on in terms of romance...you can't have a 3 arc romance story with characters that are in only 2 games. They probably had a plan all along...I just hope they implement it better than the romances they did in ME2.



I wonder if that means Wrex will be back for a teammate in ME3.

If they decide to take the easy path and just make all the ME2 team members not available in ME3 to deal with all possible combinations of deaths that could occur on the suicide mission I'm going to miss Garrus.

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Brijenieve wrote...

Lisa_H wrote...
Truth to be told I had to look twice that it was correctly spelled :innocent:

Love this pic. Wish I could draw like that

Haha -  Bri and Brij are always acceptable as well ;)
I know, I wish I was an artist like that, too.

Darazelly wrote...

crimsonrhodelia wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

Random: How do you think Kaidan and Shepard would have interacted as kids?


Shep
would be the cool popular girl with all the fun ideas, rallying the
neighbourhood kids for mischief...Kaidan would be the shy boy who, much
to his own surprise, quickly becomes her supportive right man and who's
secretly harbouring a HUGE crush on her - but he's just one of the boys
to her[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie] until teenage hormones hit. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Also,
I don't think we ever had a locker scene gif, did we? To the best of my
knowledge, we only have...oh hell, I'll just post it, much more fun
this way:


../../../uploads_group/2000/1137/2551.gif

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]


Argh, AU fanfic idea. That was such an interesting idea.


Darazelly: do ittttt!! I'll read! :D

crimsonrhodelia: posting is much better than describing, good call. I vote we nominate someone to make an almost-kiss .gif ... I wouldn't mind doing it, but I don't know how. :?



Isaantia is usually the one who makes the gifs. She made the nekkid Kaidan one. 

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Shenzi wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

crimsonrhodelia wrote...


Hello. Went around the net looking for more hope. Might have found
some.  Hope its ok to share this. This is from a Q&A with Casey
Hudson on giantbomb.com.

www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-2/61-21590/mass-effect-2-qa-with-producer-casey-hudson/35-382636/

CaseyH-ME2: While Mass Effect fans have grown to love our characters,
you can imagine that after spending years crafting them, we have at
least as much of an attachment to them. So it's definitely not a case
of the team disregarding player's decisions with them or interest in
those characters - in fact, it's the opposite...

CaseyH-ME2: We
actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story,
which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost
certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable
(more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an
important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't
say for the new characters.

CaseyH-ME2: Finally, if
you are worried about the role of the ME1 love interest in the trilogy,
consider that the romance itself is told across the trilogy, in 3 acts.
Apply the 3-act concept to what's happening in your relationship with
them, and you might guess where we're going with it.


I wonder if they mean the new ME2 characters definitely won't be back for ME3 or that  they might not be back since they can be killed? 

Also sounds like the ME1 LI's are the ones that they are focusing on in terms of romance...you can't have a 3 arc romance story with characters that are in only 2 games. They probably had a plan all along...I just hope they implement it better than the romances they did in ME2.



I wonder if that means Wrex will be back for a teammate in ME3.

If they decide to take the easy path and just make all the ME2 team members not available in ME3 to deal with all possible combinations of deaths that could occur on the suicide mission I'm going to miss Garrus.


Doing that is going to annoy many Garrus fans. I'd miss big brother Vakarian myself. Though I don't know how else they could weave in the ME2 romances, other than doing a 'Horizon', though perhaps a slightly happier 'I'll be waiting for you Shepard' kind. But still, unless they only have cameos its just going to involve too much work/cost. Even if they only bring back the ME1 LI's as squadies, they are still going to have to do two versions based on who dies, thats bad enough. Its going to be a challenge to please everybody and I'd honestly settle for a (happy) ending cutscene, as long as every other LI got only the same. :?

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This is another fic I love

http://www.fanfictio.../1/Interstitial


Chapter 2 is a confrontation between Shep and Kaidan post Horizon.  Chapter 4 is absolutely heart breaking.
 
I had to buy the space hamster for Shep’s cabin after reading this fic.

Modifié par Shenzi, 02 mars 2010 - 09:01 .


#5913
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Shenzi wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

crimsonrhodelia wrote...


Hello. Went around the net looking for more hope. Might have found
some.  Hope its ok to share this. This is from a Q&A with Casey
Hudson on giantbomb.com.

www.giantbomb.com/mass-effect-2/61-21590/mass-effect-2-qa-with-producer-casey-hudson/35-382636/

CaseyH-ME2: While Mass Effect fans have grown to love our characters,
you can imagine that after spending years crafting them, we have at
least as much of an attachment to them. So it's definitely not a case
of the team disregarding player's decisions with them or interest in
those characters - in fact, it's the opposite...

CaseyH-ME2: We
actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story,
which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost
certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable
(more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an
important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't
say for the new characters.

CaseyH-ME2: Finally, if
you are worried about the role of the ME1 love interest in the trilogy,
consider that the romance itself is told across the trilogy, in 3 acts.
Apply the 3-act concept to what's happening in your relationship with
them, and you might guess where we're going with it.


I wonder if they mean the new ME2 characters definitely won't be back for ME3 or that  they might not be back since they can be killed? 

Also sounds like the ME1 LI's are the ones that they are focusing on in terms of romance...you can't have a 3 arc romance story with characters that are in only 2 games. They probably had a plan all along...I just hope they implement it better than the romances they did in ME2.



I wonder if that means Wrex will be back for a teammate in ME3.

If they decide to take the easy path and just make all the ME2 team members not available in ME3 to deal with all possible combinations of deaths that could occur on the suicide mission I'm going to miss Garrus.


In all honesty I would think it would be easier for them scripting wise to not have the ME2 squad members recruitable in ME3. I know that will tick some people off but I would rather there be cuts in areas like that than for them not to be able to tell the story in a quality way because they were trying to include too many elements. Quality over quantity.

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

Shenzi wrote...

I wonder if that means Wrex will be back for a teammate in ME3.

If they decide to take the easy path and just make all the ME2 team members not available in ME3 to deal with all possible combinations of deaths that could occur on the suicide mission I'm going to miss Garrus.


In all honesty I would think it would be easier for them scripting wise to not have the ME2 squad members recruitable in ME3. I know that will tick some people off but I would rather there be cuts in areas like that than for them not to be able to tell the story in a quality way because they were trying to include too many elements. Quality over quantity.


My suspicion is that some of the ME2 squadmates might be available, but certainly not all of them - especially given that they can all die. So maybe, for example, Garrus, Tali and Jack are available in general, but if your import from ME2 had Tali die, then only Garrus and Jack will be availble in ME3... make sense? The others will be explained (if they survived) as having gone elsewhere to fight - their own home planets or something to recruit their peoples, while the primary ME1 characters that couldn't die will be more likely squad options...?

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CaseyH-ME2: Yes, it's definitely difficult to continue the fiction when we allow major characters to be **bleep**ed off by player actions. But, that's part of the fun, and the impact of major consequences. One reason that the love interests were not recruitable in ME2 (but are still part of the story) is that they need to be around for the ongoing story in ME3.

CaseyH-ME2: We actually want to make sure these characters survive the ME2 story, which ultimately is a suicide mission: some of your crew will almost certainly die. Some of the ME1 characters are back, and recruitable
(more than you might think), and the ones that aren't still play an important role in the story and will be around for ME3 - which we can't say for the new characters.

CaseyH-ME2: Finally, if you are worried about the role of the ME1 love interest in the trilogy, consider that the romance itself is told across the trilogy, in 3 acts.  Apply the 3-act concept to what's happening in your relationship with them, and you might guess where we're going with it.


Ok so messed a bit with the quote and added something else from the interview.  This is exactly what I thought and have said a couple of times, I think the ME1 LI's were always intended to be the main romance focus and the inbetween stuff is mostly a distraction.  He said they weren't recruitable in ME2 because they had to be around for ME1, my reasoning then says that they will therefore be around and therefore recruitable!  Yay!

I don't have high expectations for the ME2 crowd and part of me thinks it would kinda be poetic with everyone banging on about the pure awesomeness of some of them, if they had small unsatifying cameos, but I'm not that mean and wouldn't want the other fans to suffer, still an ickle lickle bit of me would lol.

I wouldn't be suprised if liara/Ash/Kaidan had huge roles and the others were sketchier/less fleshed out a bit like ME2 actually Image IPB

All my opinion of course and I may be talking out of my backside!

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Shenzi wrote...

This is another fic I love

http://www.fanfictio.../1/Interstitial


Chapter 2 is a confrontation between Shep and Kaidan post Horizon.  Chapter 4 is absolutely heart breaking.
 
I had to buy the space hamster for Shep’s cabin after reading this fic.


Yes, I love this one too. Why, oh why did I never clock before what that sneaky little rodent was up to? It hardly ever comes out of it's little house when Shep's there, but I bet the moment she's gone it's skittering all over the cabin and whiffling it's whiskers at my...er...her Kaidan picture...

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MICHELLE7 wrote...
In all honesty I would think it would be easier for them scripting wise to not have the ME2 squad members recruitable in ME3. I know that will tick some people off but I would rather there be cuts in areas like that than for them not to be able to tell the story in a quality way because they were trying to include too many elements. Quality over quantity.


I agree with this 100%!

I would be surprised if BW brings back all the ME2 characters, since they can all die and a number of them can easily be incorporated into the plot without being squaddies (Tali back on the Flotilla, Legion with the Geth etc.). Out of all the ME2 characters, I only really care about having Tali, Garrus, Joker and Dr Chakwas back. ;)

ETA: Legion would be awesome to see again though in some role and Mordin would be nice as an on-the-Normandy ship mate only.

Modifié par crimsonrhodelia, 02 mars 2010 - 09:10 .


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I just have this to say: If BW doesn't give me a satisfying Kaidan romance conclusion in ME3, I. Will. SCREAM.

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shotgun-shepard wrote...

Doing that is going to annoy many Garrus fans. I'd miss big brother Vakarian myself. Though I don't know how else they could weave in the ME2 romances, other than doing a 'Horizon', though perhaps a slightly happier 'I'll be waiting for you Shepard' kind. But still, unless they only have cameos its just going to involve too much work/cost. Even if they only bring back the ME1 LI's as squadies, they are still going to have to do two versions based on who dies, thats bad enough. Its going to be a challenge to please everybody and I'd honestly settle for a (happy) ending cutscene, as long as every other LI got only the same. :?


I always thought Garrus was more like a little brother than a big brother since my Shep always has to look out for him and keep him from doing something bad. I really think it sad we could not have more converations with the old squad if we chose not to romance them.

I really hope Bioware had some kind of plan when they introduced so many LIs, at least that article gives me hope that there is something planed for the LI from ME1.

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Brijenieve wrote...

MICHELLE7 wrote...

Shenzi wrote...

I wonder if that means Wrex will be back for a teammate in ME3.

If they decide to take the easy path and just make all the ME2 team members not available in ME3 to deal with all possible combinations of deaths that could occur on the suicide mission I'm going to miss Garrus.


In all honesty I would think it would be easier for them scripting wise to not have the ME2 squad members recruitable in ME3. I know that will tick some people off but I would rather there be cuts in areas like that than for them not to be able to tell the story in a quality way because they were trying to include too many elements. Quality over quantity.


My suspicion is that some of the ME2 squadmates might be available, but certainly not all of them - especially given that they can all die. So maybe, for example, Garrus, Tali and Jack are available in general, but if your import from ME2 had Tali die, then only Garrus and Jack will be availble in ME3... make sense? The others will be explained (if they survived) as having gone elsewhere to fight - their own home planets or something to recruit their peoples, while the primary ME1 characters that couldn't die will be more likely squad options...?


I can see where they might attempt something like that....it might work if they keep it on a small scale. I just think if they tried to bring them all back they'd have a mess and not just with scripting. I don't think anyone would want the them cutting corners just so they could include everyone. I think it's gonna be hard for them to keep it all straight as it is.

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Lisa_H wrote...

shotgun-shepard wrote...

Doing that is going to annoy many Garrus fans. I'd miss big brother Vakarian myself. Though I don't know how else they could weave in the ME2 romances, other than doing a 'Horizon', though perhaps a slightly happier 'I'll be waiting for you Shepard' kind. But still, unless they only have cameos its just going to involve too much work/cost. Even if they only bring back the ME1 LI's as squadies, they are still going to have to do two versions based on who dies, thats bad enough. Its going to be a challenge to please everybody and I'd honestly settle for a (happy) ending cutscene, as long as every other LI got only the same. :?


I always thought Garrus was more like a little brother than a big brother since my Shep always has to look out for him and keep him from doing something bad. I really think it sad we could not have more converations with the old squad if we chose not to romance them.

I really hope Bioware had some kind of plan when they introduced so many LIs, at least that article gives me hope that there is something planed for the LI from ME1.


I comfort myself with the thought that they know exactly what they're doing and they're laughing at us because we're worrying over the happy ending they're gonna give us. 

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MICHELLE7 wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...
My suspicion is that some of the ME2 squadmates might be available, but certainly not all of them - especially given that they can all die. So maybe, for example, Garrus, Tali and Jack are available in general, but if your import from ME2 had Tali die, then only Garrus and Jack will be availble in ME3... make sense? The others will be explained (if they survived) as having gone elsewhere to fight - their own home planets or something to recruit their peoples, while the primary ME1 characters that couldn't die will be more likely squad options...?


I can see where they might attempt something like that....it might work if they keep it on a small scale. I just think if they tried to bring them all back they'd have a mess and not just with scripting. I don't think anyone would want the them cutting corners just so they could include everyone. I think it's gonna be hard for them to keep it all straight as it is.


True. And we all know how Kaidan feels about cutting corners..... haha. ;)

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BECC4 wrote...

I don't have high expectations for the ME2 crowd and part of me thinks it would kinda be poetic with everyone banging on about the pure awesomeness of some of them, if they had small unsatifying cameos, but I'm not that mean and wouldn't want the other fans to suffer, still an ickle lickle bit of me would lol.

I wouldn't be suprised if liara/Ash/Kaidan had huge roles and the others were sketchier/less fleshed out a bit like ME2 actually Image IPB

All my opinion of course and I may be talking out of my backside!


LOL you're just a little bit wicked(in a good way) aren't you?:D

It would be interesting to find out that the ME2 LI's were in ME2 just to provide for some kind of dramatic scene in ME3 with your ME1 LI if you cheated and that they would be playing no further role. Not saying it will go down like that but you never know.

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crimsonrhodelia wrote...

CaseyH-ME2: Finally, if
you are worried about the role of the ME1 love interest in the trilogy,
consider that the romance itself is told across the trilogy, in 3 acts.
Apply the 3-act concept to what's happening in your relationship with
them, and you might guess where we're going with it.


Do. Want. This.

Thank you, CR; you may have just made the day of every Kaidan and Ash fan here.

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I think BW will resolve all the romances somehow. Though I suspect the ME 2 romances will get short changed...well, apart from Tali and Garrus because of their fan base sizes.



As for the ME1 romances (i.e. Alenko, Williams, and Liara), I suspect we'll have a full and proper ending to there romances - though I hope bioware don't go too overboard. Like full weddings and so forth - it would strike me as too 'sugary' an ending for them.