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Nightodie wrote...

@ Fire ... yes if you noticed ... I was one of the reviewers.... I suffered then too!!!


Aww.  The next thing I publish won't make you suffer.  Much.  I don't think?  :innocent:

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FireEye wrote...

If it makes you feel any better, I was partially speaking for myself: when I tested it, you know... For Science, I pulled the same trick.  It's cruel, but it's also fun in a cruel way.  ^_^

(Psst: would request fluff work?  Cause I can totally request fluff.)


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Also: fluff?

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FireEye wrote...

Nightodie wrote...

@ Fire ... yes if you noticed ... I was one of the reviewers.... I suffered then too!!!


Aww.  The next thing I publish won't make you suffer.  Much.  I don't think?  :innocent:


(Fluff would totally work)

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Quaay wrote...

Argh his voice is sooooo sexy. It's like you can tell he's so close to your ear you can feel the heat from his mouth. It gives me chills and makes my eyes water.

Yeah.  Gives me tingly shivers just thinking about it.  That voice is an instant aphrodesiac.
I'm with Fort.  No way my Shepards could turn him down.

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 Kaidan talking in German.Kaidan's German voice is awesome too.
Probably because German + deep man voice= hot (to me, anyway). :)
Although Sbarge's is still nicer (probably because I know what he's saying). 
*goes back to studying*

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Brodyaha wrote...

 Kaidan talking in German.Kaidan's German voice is awesome too.
Probably because German + deep man voice= hot (to me, anyway). :)
Although Sbarge's is still nicer (probably because I know what he's saying). 
*goes back to studying*


I like his German VA from ME1 even though he sounds quite "young" in my opinion, but they changed the VA in ME2 and I never warmed up to the new voice (not to mention I just hate it when they change VAs). So as soon as I figured out how to, I changed the language settings to English.

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Brodyaha wrote...

 Kaidan talking in German.Kaidan's German voice is awesome too.
Probably because German + deep man voice= hot (to me, anyway). :)
Although Sbarge's is still nicer (probably because I know what he's saying). 
*goes back to studying*


... huh!

On the name origin debate, German!FemShep pronounces Kaidan pretty close to the Japanese word Kaidan.  Or at least, a lot closer than the English!FemShep.  :huh:

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Yes, though the VAs jump back and forth from the German pronounciation to the English pronounciation in ME2, and not only with Kaidan's name - Garrus comes to my mind. It's a bit jarring at times.

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 I can see how you'd feel about that, Chignon.  I switch to the Japanese VAs for some games because the English voiceovers hurt my ears. :(
It's happened on more than one occasion.  And the various pronunciations in ME2 must suck.  Why don't they just stick with one?I personally think that both FemShep and Kaidan's voices sound on par, if a smidgen deeper, than the English ones, but that's just IMHO.  I'm certainly not a voice expert.  And I just noticed how German FemShep pronounced Kaidan's name differently.  I have to say her pronunciation makes a lot more sense than the English spelling + English pronunciation of Kaidan.
Have to love English with all its oddness. :huh:

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Brodyaha wrote...

 I can see how you'd feel about that, Chignon.  I switch to the Japanese VAs for some games because the English voiceovers hurt my ears. :(
It's happened on more than one occasion.  And the various pronunciations in ME2 must suck.  Why don't they just stick with one?I personally think that both FemShep and Kaidan's voices sound on par, if a smidgen deeper, than the English ones, but that's just IMHO.  I'm certainly not a voice expert.  And I just noticed how German FemShep pronounced Kaidan's name differently.  I have to say her pronunciation makes a lot more sense than the English spelling + English pronunciation of Kaidan.
Have to love English with all its oddness. :huh:


You're right - their voices are a bit deeper. Though, I think some of it has to do with how a language "sounds". And as I said before, I liked the ME1 VAs. (Garrus's voice sounds even better in German than English, in my opinion.)

But the change in pronounciation really does suck. Tali was Tali in ME1, and in ME2 she was suddenly Tayhlee, Gahrrus became Gerres etc. Why did they feel the need to change from the German pronounciation of ME1 to an English one in ME2? And Kaidan's German VA? I loved him. I guess I'll never understand. Posted Image

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@Saberchick & Night...



Thx for the linkies =) meant to say 'thank you' earlier but my internet kept disconnecting every minute or so.. -__-'

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Jade5233 wrote...

Quaay wrote...

Argh his voice is sooooo sexy. It's like you can tell he's so close to your ear you can feel the heat from his mouth. It gives me chills and makes my eyes water.

Yeah.  Gives me tingly shivers just thinking about it.  That voice is an instant aphrodesiac.
I'm with Fort.  No way my Shepards could turn him down.


The VA is what originally attracted me to the character.

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I love this picture. He looks so very good on Horizon. Posted Image

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^Agreed. They SOOO made him look stunning on purpose, the SOB's. They may as well have put him in a thong

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Hey everyone I have a question for you all. As we all know it has been stated by BioWare that cheating will have consequences in ME3. Now here is my question "From who's point of view is it considered cheating?" Will Kaidan consider it cheating even though you were dead? Or would your Shep consider it cheating because, as far as you are concerned you never really broke up, you just got spaced Posted Image  I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the subject. I don't think we ever really discussed this before or I may be wrong and could have missed it Posted Image

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I think its been touched on before... might have been another thread, not sure.

Shep would be a cheater, in my opinion. She should be winning him back not dipping her nib in the office ink again. But two years for Kaidan, so i'd understand.

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If you ask people who 'moved on', they don't call it cheating. Generally, those who stayed loyal might consider it cheating.



I personally consider it cheating. Shepard died and was still in love with the LI when she died. Then she wakes up and moves on (quickly might I add) after one fight? I'm not buying it.



TBH, I think 'cheating' was just a word used to define it. If you look at LOtSB, there weren't any consequences to speak of so I doubt it'll matter too much anyway.

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I hope it does matter to some extent. Or maybe those who were totally faithful get different reactions, not exactly 'gratitude' from them but you know what i mean. They appreciate the sentimentality

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NamiraWilhelm wrote...

I hope it does matter to some extent. Or maybe those who were totally faithful get different reactions, not exactly 'gratitude' from them but you know what i mean. They appreciate the sentimentality


If non-loyal Shepards can still win back Kaidan, then I too want the game to recognize the importance of loyalty. Basically, the game should recognize that the relationship with Kaidan is somehow more meaningful to those who are loyal. So I'd want the totally loyal Sheps to get the epic romance complete with an "I love you, Kaidan/I love you, Shepard" dialogue option. I'd also like the loyal Shepards to get more than one romance scene and possibly an extra mission or something... don't know. It's not that I expect a "reward" for Shepard's loyalty, I just want to see that her decisions matter not just to me, but to the game, too. Plus, I secretly do want to punish the non-loyal Shepards. Because what the hell are they thinking? Really. It's Kaidan!

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Lol i know, its a bit evil but want my fidelity appreciated! But yea they should still be able to win him back... eventually



Kaidan: How could you Shepard? How could you even THINK about someone else?

Shepard: You were one of the least popular LI's! I didnt think Bioware would actually bring you back!

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Lol i know, its a bit evil but want my fidelity appreciated! But yea they should still be able to win him back... eventually

Kaidan: How could you Shepard? How could you even THINK about someone else?
Shepard: You were one of the least popular LI's! I didnt think Bioware would actually bring you back!


LOL. Love it.

Kaidan: I'm only one of the least popular because they cut the parts where I was going to be ManShep romanceable.
Shepard: Oh, you really have it tough. Like you're the only one. I couldn't even get with Jack so I had to settle for Kelly-- and a nasty case of scale-itch...

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fortunesque wrote...

If you ask people who 'moved on', they don't call it cheating. Generally, those who stayed loyal might consider it cheating.

I personally consider it cheating. Shepard died and was still in love with the LI when she died. Then she wakes up and moves on (quickly might I add) after one fight? I'm not buying it.

TBH, I think 'cheating' was just a word used to define it. If you look at LOtSB, there weren't any consequences to speak of so I doubt it'll matter too much anyway.


I agree completely. And as I wrote before I didn't like how it handled in LotSB and wish it would have "real" consequences, like i.e. being unable to continue a relationship with Kaidan/Ashley.

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Shepard: I'm not even on the freakin' front cover! .... now i know why people thought you were whiney!

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Hey everyone I have a question for you all. As we all know it has been stated by BioWare that cheating will have consequences in ME3. Now here is my question "From who's point of view is it considered cheating?" Will Kaidan consider it cheating even though you were dead? Or would your Shep consider it cheating because, as far as you are concerned you never really broke up, you just got spaced Posted Image  I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the subject. I don't think we ever really discussed this before or I may be wrong and could have missed it Posted Image


There are a few factors for every Shepard to consider when it comes to their ME1 romance:

Before Ilos:  did your Shepard consider this a fling (despite whatever they said in game)?  Did they break things off or put things on hold after the Battle of the Citadel, because of fraternization rules (this is what my Shepard did, even though she was still very much interested in Kaidan), or did their feelings change afterwards?

After being resurrected:  did your Shepard feel differently about life after being raised from the dead?  When your Shepard heard "two years", did they think that all that time lost would be too much of a hurdle?

After Horizon:  this is the big one...did your Shepard agree with Kaidan's assessment of the situation?  Did she feel hurt and betrayed?  Did she understand why he was saying those things?  Did she consider that a break up, if she wasn't already broken up with him in her mind?

The email:  did this make any difference in how your Shepard saw the relationship?  Were you upset by the mention of the Citadel Doctor?


Personally, my Shepard would not have considered it cheating to move on, because her relationship with Kaidan was on hold indefinitely when she died.  However, she was fully aware that she still had feelings for him, and those feelings didn't go away when she was resurrected.  She is loyal, in her own way, and wasn't even thinking of looking at anyone else, at least until things with Kaidan were squared away.  Even if she hadn't been in love with Kaidan, though, being forced to work for Cerberus and engage in a suicide mission made her feel very alone, and flirting with squadmates would not even occur to her.  She doesn't trust herself to open up to anyone right now, either. 

But, from my own perspective, as a gamer, once I started playing, I realized that moving on wasn't an option at all.  If anything, ME2 made me more of a Kaidan fan than ever.  I don't think that's what the devs intended, but oh well...

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RubyRed1975 wrote...

Hey everyone I have a question for you all. As we all know it has been stated by BioWare that cheating will have consequences in ME3. Now here is my question "From who's point of view is it considered cheating?" Will Kaidan consider it cheating even though you were dead? Or would your Shep consider it cheating because, as far as you are concerned you never really broke up, you just got spaced Posted Image  I just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the subject. I don't think we ever really discussed this before or I may be wrong and could have missed it Posted Image


Interesting... well, as things left off, Shep and Kaidan were kind of on opposiing sides. I could see Bioware throwing in a situation where you might need Kaidan's help, and he'll only be able to be persuaded to come over to your side if you stayed faithful. Like somehow on one of the side missions the only way to complete it without "failing"
 would be with Kaidan's help.

I hope this makes sense.... :huh: