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Kaidan Alenko Support Thread Part 2

Débuté par Mrs Templar , févr. 18 2010 08:45

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#59401
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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 07:55

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Daewan wrote...

Nah, I'm going to totally disagree. (hey, it's my job, I'm playing Joker's advocate!)
Why would Kaidan turn on his crewmember like that? Joker has already lost everything (the Normandy, Shepard); losing a friend on top of that might push him over the edge. And Kaidan wouldn't want that on his conscience. Granted, he might be angry with Joker, but I don't think he would let Joker know. Well, not until he runs off to Cerberus, anyway. Maybe.


I tend to agree with you Dae (sorry if you wanted to be the lone Ranger here!).  First of all, I think Kaidan would respect his commanding officer sufficiently to trust that s/he didn't intend to die, that s/he had responsibilities and a job to do, and that even if s/he hadn't gone forward to Joker, s/he still could have died.  I mean at least 20 crew members didn't make it to the pods.

Also  it's not unlikely that the Alliance maintains the tradition that the Captain goes down with the ship or at least is last to leave, so Shep's decision to make Kaidan leave and go to Joker him/herself has precedent that I think Kaidan would understand and not take Shep's decision (because it was his/hersand s/he is responsible for him/herself) out on Joker.

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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 08:26

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My take on Kaidan's anger with himself/Joker I put in my FF. I think Kaidan would be both upset with himself and Joker during his grieving process.

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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 08:50

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Star58 wrote...

I tend to agree with you Dae (sorry if you wanted to be the lone Ranger here!).  First of all, I think Kaidan would respect his commanding officer sufficiently to trust that s/he didn't intend to die, that s/he had responsibilities and a job to do, and that even if s/he hadn't gone forward to Joker, s/he still could have died.  I mean at least 20 crew members didn't make it to the pods.

Also  it's not unlikely that the Alliance maintains the tradition that the Captain goes down with the ship or at least is last to leave, so Shep's decision to make Kaidan leave and go to Joker him/herself has precedent that I think Kaidan would understand and not take Shep's decision (because it was his/hersand s/he is responsible for him/herself) out on Joker.


I agree with all this. Nicely put.

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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 09:00

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fortunesque wrote...

Wouldn't Joker's refusal to leave (disobeying orders) causing Shepard's death be a breaking point for Kaidan? Nobody is perfect and there's got to be a point at which Kaidan would finally flip out. I don't think he'd hurt anyone but he'd be royally pissed and his biotics would at least flare up.


My Shepard would be very annoyed if he finally cracked at a time when she wasn't around to see it.  XD

With Joker, I suspect that there's some resentment on retrospect, but I also think Kaidan internalizes and buries a lot and, if it were there, he might not even realize it.  Kinda strange... I think Kaidan was concerned over Joker more than he was concerned over Shepard, at the time.

As for Joker... I don't think Joker would have left without Shepard convincing him.  He's not interested in saving the crew at all - he's interested in saving the Normandy.

With the Citadel Doctor, I presume she's human, since I presumed that Kaidan's friends were Alliance.  Since in this case his friend is a turian, I might presume human (trying to be polite and match him with someone of his own kind) or asari (since everyone loves asari).  Then again, I still take interspecies relationships (asari aside) as very unusual, which seems to be not true anymore.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if it were Dr. Michel.  The galaxy is very small and interconnected in ME2.  :huh:

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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 10:55

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... this is the face of a man who cannot be trusted.  :o

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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 10:56

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About the Doctor: Until I read Jade and sage's fanfics, I always assumed that Kaidan was talking about Dr. Michel but didn't want to say exactly. But I prefer their interpretations. If you want to make the doctor an asari or quarian, that would be really cool too, and although he does "appreciate art," as he put it for Liara, but I still think he would prefer human women. But perhaps he tries a different alien species to try and not make comparisons to the new doctor and Shepard, and what is (physically, at least) different from a human than an alien?

About Kaidan's reaction to Joker: I think any reaction would be fine, so long as Kaidan doesn't go crazy and start breaking Joker's bones or trying to kill him.  Shepard's death was pretty huge for him obviously, and maybe he did have a breaking point where he couldn't control his anger and sadness.  Until they come out with a DLC or ME3, we don't know how Kaid handled it.

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Posté 14 octobre 2010 - 11:16

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FireEye wrote...

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... this is the face of a man who cannot be trusted.  :o


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Poor Kaiden. Posted Image

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 12:13

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I have to say that I, for one, am really looking forward to the screenshots of Kaidan and Kaiden kissing... These Kaidan-Kaiden pics are just giving me a lot of insight into why so many straight guys find f/f loving so attractive...

#59409
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 12:24

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Chignon wrote...

FireEye wrote...
... this is the face of a man who cannot be trusted.  :o


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Poor Kaiden. Posted Image


Awww.  He looks so sad!  I want to give him a hug... :crying:

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 12:40

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FireEye wrote...

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... this is the face of a man who cannot be trusted.  :o

"What the - NOT NOW!  GET YOUR HAND OUT OF THERE!"

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 12:54

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avalon30 wrote...

I have to say that I, for one, am really looking forward to the screenshots of Kaidan and Kaiden kissing... These Kaidan-Kaiden pics are just giving me a lot of insight into why so many straight guys find f/f loving so attractive...


I'm so going to hell for this, but:

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And Joker wins the award for worst timing ever.

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 01:08

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Omg. Yessssss :D

#59413
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 01:11

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You know what's coming next? That's right, Ilos. (;

#59414
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 01:16

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Chignon wrote...

You know what's coming next? That's right, Ilos. (;


:o

Do you have flycam enabled?

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 01:18

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Why, yes, of course! Posted Image

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 02:31

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Chignon wrote...

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And Joker wins the award for worst timing ever.


Run, Joker, RUN!  :o

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 02:38

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Those pictures are magical.

#59418
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 03:38

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Yes they are indeed. I shall have sweet dreams of Kaidan and Kaiden now as I prepare to end my Thursday.



But before I go... Update alert for anyone following Truth and Lies.

#59419
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 04:32

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Daewan wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

To play devil's advocate:

Wouldn't Joker's refusal to leave (disobeying orders) causing Shepard's death be a breaking point for Kaidan? Nobody is perfect and there's got to be a point at which Kaidan would finally flip out. I don't think he'd hurt anyone but he'd be royally pissed and his biotics would at least flare up.


Why doesn't anyone ever play Joker's advocate and give him credit for saving the lives of the crew with his piloting?  Why not consider that he used the Normandy as bait to draw fire from the unknown ship so that everyone else could make it safely to the planet below?

After all, Joker didn't get reprimanded for his piloting.  He got reassigned, just like everyone else, and his illness was the reason he was grounded (comments from Dr. Chakwas).  Cerberus not only let him fly again, but they did a lot of reconstruction (that probably won't be good for him in the long run).



Okay I have stong feelings about this... not once but twice Shepard could have saved them both and she knew him just as well as Kaidan...

Walk into the room ... Come on Joker let's go... grab him .. go ...

I also think she would have tackled Kaidan on Horizon ... but she didn't get Horizon cause she saved Joker...

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#59420
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 05:17

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I was always wondering why I never saw Kaidan on Kaidan action in here before now.

#59421
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 06:00

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I just watched all the music videos related to Kaidan/Shepard romance and i start crying..........jeez......not the perfect way to start my day and go to work..........plz tell me im not the only one that is THAT obsessed with Kaidan or ill start wondering something's wrong with me :(

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#59422
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 07:30

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No, Selenora you are not the only one obsessed with Kaidan...here are a lot of us like you:)

@Kaidan and Kaiden is great ...LOL...

#59423
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 08:27

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Aslanasadi wrote...

@Kaidan and Kaiden is great ...LOL...


*imitates Kasumi*
Creeepyyyy...

#59424
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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 10:31

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Obsessed? *hides fan fics* With Kaidan? *hides folder of sekret pics*

Whatever gave you that idea? *hides new unpublished fan fic, folds hands on table, looks around innocently & smiles*

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Posté 15 octobre 2010 - 11:35

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Chignon wrote...


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Oh, thank you :wub:. What a glorious way to start the morning.
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