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Reverie

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I'm sorry you regret posting them. I honestly had no problems with the pictures themselves. It was just the sheer number of them at a time. It seems petty now. However I had no idea this would all blow up like this (especially when someone twists your words). Honestly you enjoy them, have fun.

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I will say this; picspam is against the TOS so the reposting and requoting is probably what some people are taking issue with. I can get on board with that.



Complete censorship, not so much :/

#59503
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Chignon wrote...

I regret posting them - I really did not mean for things to get out of hand.


There is no difference between the many, many pics of FShep and Kaidan in those same scenes and what you posted.  Only a model change.  I can understand if someone says it is not their style, and I appreciate that, but saying that they are offensive is disturbing to me.  In a time in which young people are killing themselves because of even the *rumor* that they might be homosexual, I'm not feeling very tolerant towards the idea that images of same sex relationships -- even tame, pixelated ones -- should be censored or shunted to dark corners.  

I'm trying really hard to bite my tongue here, but this should have never been an issue in the first place.

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Agreed 100%, Teen. And I really think what you and Fort have said should be the last word.



So to change the subject, here's something we can all agree on:



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This guy is awesome!

#59505
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I'd explain myself and the words I used, but the point is already lost. Let the dead horse die.

Dammit Joisan stop ninja'ing me!

:ph34r:

Modifié par Daewan, 16 octobre 2010 - 01:44 .


#59506
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Oh for heaven's sake people let's not have drama, here. Not about this. Come on.

If you don't like it, scroll past it. It's fully clothed figures, we live in the 21st century, kissing isn't offensive, neither is homosexuality. It'd be vastly different if there was groping or whatever going on, it's just some identical dudes kissing. Hardly anything to get up in arms about!



ANYWAYS



As I mentioned before, Chignon and I have been collaborating on reimagining Horizon. Basically, sticking to canon for some things because there are reasons for those, but just giving the whole thing a more in-character, emotional impact that the actual scene didn't have if you romanced Kaidan.



My Shep, Bailie, is desperately in love with him, so here's the first page in sketch form:



http://pics.livejour...es/pic/0001ket6



I'm not going to post the script for this page because it should be really obvious what's being said.

Panel three makes me really happy inside, and, I thought it would make you guys happy, too.

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*Slowly backs out of thread with cheese sandwich in hand*

*walks back in with chips*



If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:



Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)

After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)

After you return from destroying the Collector Base.

#59508
Reverie

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Well Daewan when you are putting words into someones mouth it is best to explain yourself. But I'm out of here for now. I'm going to go shoot some stuff in L4D2. Frustrations will be gone.

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L.Aendrus wrote...

*Slowly backs out of thread with cheese sandwich in hand*
*walks back in with chips*

If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:

Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)
After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)
After you return from destroying the Collector Base.


After a compelling reply.
He could show up all unannounced and be my knight in shining armour.
Like, OH NO THE SR2 IS IN TROUBLE GUYS

what's this ANOMALY DETECTED COMMANDER -- IT'S ANOTHER SHIP
*Cue urgent sounding awesome music*

oh my GOSH it's Kaidan he saves the day.

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L.Aendrus wrote...

*Slowly backs out of thread with cheese sandwich in hand*
*walks back in with chips*

If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:

Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)
After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)
After you return from destroying the Collector Base.


After returning from the base so he 100% won't die :)

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L.Aendrus wrote...

*Slowly backs out of thread with cheese sandwich in hand*
*walks back in with chips*

If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:

Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)
After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)
After you return from destroying the Collector Base.


I'd go with one or three.  I could see, if the writing had been better, Shepard maybe convincing Kaidan to come with her.  And I could definitely see him working with her after she destroys the Collector Base and cuts ties with Cerberus.

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My Shep would never let him get captured, he'd be on the Kodiak of course! Looking to go uncanon in my FF. My Shep would not let things end like Horizon.

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Gragggg double post!

Modifié par L.Aendrus, 16 octobre 2010 - 01:56 .


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Sorrel wrote...

My Shep, Bailie, is desperately in love with him, so here's the first page in sketch form:

http://pics.livejour...es/pic/0001ket6


It looks really good so far, Sorrel. I particularly like the composition. Can't wait to see it inked! Posted Image

#59515
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I very much like this beginning to the comic!

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I like it too!

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Okay I was sleeping through the whole controversy and I know Dae said to let it die and I really should but ...



I am one of the oldest here.. and no not the oldest.



I think we need to respect each other's opinion and not jump on each other ... If you don't agree with someone ... Please don't belittle them. I am not saying that happened here and I am saying I respect everyone who posted.



I see nothing wrong with saying I agree with one or the other poster and leaving it at that. It is very hard in this enviroment to see the real intention behind the post since there are no emotional indicators.. right now am I happy/sad/ angry/ laughing? Do you really know?



Sometimes you may say something that is taken wrong... Ask the person. That is what PM is for. If you don't like something tell the person... it really works.



If we like a picture... say you like it without reposting it ten times ... that is simple enough... Good example ... if Jho posted a picture (lets face it we all love Jho's pics for the most part) she would snip (delete) it out of her quotes... because of the terms of service about spaming... so just stop quoting the pictures over and over and the ones who don't like it can go past it.



I don't think you should Jump on either the person who likes it or the person who doesn't like it... and in this case all the people involved are some of my favorite people and I love them all.



And my side is simple... Have fun... please.



In all things Kaidan .... and this was a



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Now back to our regularly scheduled Kaidan.




#59518
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Ugggghhh, sorry if for a late response to the drama that filled the last page, but I would just like to say that it just confuses and frustrates the hell out of me how some people have absolutely NO FORETHOUGHT OR CONSIDERATION in their posts, especially when it should be clear to the one posting that their response touches on a sensitive subject and can be totally misunderstood.

I don't know about you guys or the person complaining about the "pic spam", but as a freshman in college I've been educated enough to understand social issues, and it really doesn't take somebody in college to know the problems our society has or has had with race, sexism, sexuality etc.

So if you're going to ask others to post less images that happen to be depicting male/male romance, using your awareness that you have on social issues, be considerate and clear on your message because others might take it the wrong way! "UGH, Kaidan/Kaiden images are definitely not my thing, so I better tell others how I don't like them always picspamming this thread!" Hey buddy, read between your lines because someone else can find something wrong with that reasoning. <_<

It's just like if you're going on vacation to Mexico: you don't blatantly tell racist Mexican jokes in that situation. LOOK AT YOUR ENVIRONMENT and think twice before saying something potentially offensive. uggghhh

NOW back to our Kaidan discussion. <3

Modifié par blackashes411, 16 octobre 2010 - 05:46 .


#59519
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Being in college doesn't make anyone more 'open-minded' than the next person. Acceptance comes from the heart.

Modifié par fortunesque, 16 octobre 2010 - 05:52 .


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I've been lurking for like... Weeks *kicks Med School*



KAIDAN LOP SIDED SMILE!!!



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L.Aendrus wrote...
If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:

Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)
After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)
After you return from destroying the Collector Base.


After I return from the Collector Base, and after I write a compelling reply to his email.
I wouldn't want him potentially dying under my command.
Same goes for Ash too.

#59522
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L.Aendrus wrote...
If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:

Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)
After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)
After you return from destroying the Collector Base.


If not being a part of the suicide mission means that Kaidan is coming back as a squadmate in ME3, then I'd be fine with the third option (DLC pleasepleaseplease).  If it doesn't make any difference, I would say right after Horizon.  I wouldn't care if I had to knock him out and haul him away just like on Virmire; he would be coming back to the Normandy, and he'd learn to like it.  :bandit:

Modifié par TeenZombie, 16 octobre 2010 - 07:05 .


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TeenZombie wrote...

L.Aendrus wrote...
If you could change Kaidan's return to the Normandy would you like it to be:

Right after the confrontation on Horizon (Shepard convincing him to stay with her)
After a compelling reply to his email (Before you go through Omega Relay)
After you return from destroying the Collector Base.


If not being a part of the suicide mission means that Kaidan is coming back as a squadmate in ME3, then I'd be fine with the third option (DLC pleasepleaseplease).  If it doesn't make any difference, I would say right after Horizon.  I wouldn't care if I had to knock him out and haul him away just like on Virmire; he would be coming back to the Normandy, and he'd learn to like it.  :bandit:


The beatings will continue until he likes it :devil:

#59524
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I agree with you Teen and Fort ;)



I wrote once before if my femshep had the possibility to kidnap Kaidan on Horizon...*grins* she would use a little bit shockwave to knock him out and then haul him away... and on the Normandy she would make sure that he'll like it...;)

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I started writing something but never finished it.
It was how my FemShep and Kaidan were talking on Horizon. I made it so it was a full-fledged argument, with my Shepard having a metaphysical near-breakdown, and Kaidan starts to comfort her, but then Garrus takes him out with some left-over concussive shots from Omega, with the intent of bringing him back to the Normandy.  After FemShep freaks, and Mordin reassures her that Kaidan will be fine, they bring him back up to the Normandy, and that's where the story ended.

So, I don't think Kaidan would've come back by any means, even if Shepard had begged and pleaded, and I don't think Shep would've used concussive rounds, but I think Garrus would be bold enough to do so.

Modifié par Brodyaha, 16 octobre 2010 - 07:30 .