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[jillyfae]

*whistles innocently* Fluffy fic update!

And continuing to share the uglynoodles love, cause my tech-incompetent vanguard Ella fits this picture so well... ^_~

[fortunesque]

So, when do we get our fanservice dlc again?

[Joisan]

Sooner rather than later, I hope, Fort!



In the meantime, though, I have some more Truth and Lies!



http://www.fanfictio.../Truth_and_Lies

[sagefic]

fortunesque wrote...

So, when do we get our fanservice dlc again?

After they announce a t-shirt featuring sheploo and tali in various unmentionable positions.

And some more armor for shep.

But you know - after that. 

[fortunesque]

sagequeen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

So, when do we get our fanservice dlc again?

After they announce a t-shirt featuring sheploo and tali in various unmentionable positions.

And some more armor for shep.

But you know - after that. 

Of course, how could I forget?

All fans/romances are equal; some are more equal than others. 

[sagefic]

fortunesque wrote...

All fans/romances are equal; some are more equal than others. 

Five fingers good; three fingers better. 

[Giggles_Manically]

sagequeen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

All fans/romances are equal; some are more equal than others. 

Five fingers good; three fingers better. 

For what exactly?

[sagefic]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

All fans/romances are equal; some are more equal than others. 

Five fingers good; three fingers better. 

For what exactly?

Just following fort's quote to it's logical (animal farm) conclusion.

but as my sheps only romance kaidan, i'd have to ask a garrus or tali fan for insight.

Modifié par sagequeen, 27 octobre 2010 - 12:42 .

[sapphyreelf]

I have a theory, but I'm fairly certain it's NSFW.

However, I prefer Kaidan still.

[Giggles_Manically]

I cant actually stick with one romance though for all of my Playthoughs.



As much as I like Tali's romance, I have also done the Liara, Ashley, Miranda, and Jack romance.





I really do think that if one is to fully understand a game they must experience it from all angles, and view to fully appreciate it, especially in a Bioware Game.

[FireEye]

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I really do think that if one is to fully understand a game they must experience it from all angles, and view to fully appreciate it, especially in a Bioware Game.

So... BioWare games require sleeping around and a copy of the Kama Sutra? 

[Giggles_Manically]

FireEye wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I really do think that if one is to fully understand a game they must experience it from all angles, and view to fully appreciate it, especially in a Bioware Game.

So... BioWare games require sleeping around and a copy of the Kama Sutra? 

No that is not even close to what I meant.

What I mean is that the best way to experience a game is to play it multiple times and try to follow a different path then you were on before.
I cant replay exactly the same way twice, it would drive me crazy.

[sagefic]

I replay it very similarly each time. But then, I like to re-read my favorite novels, too.

[Giggles_Manically]

sagequeen wrote...

I replay it very similarly each time. But then, I like to re-read my favorite novels, too.

The only novels I can do that with are the Discworld novels.

[syllogi]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I really do think that if one is to fully understand a game they must experience it from all angles, and view to fully appreciate it, especially in a Bioware Game.

So... BioWare games require sleeping around and a copy of the Kama Sutra? 

No that is not even close to what I meant.

What I mean is that the best way to experience a game is to play it multiple times and try to follow a different path then you were on before.
I cant replay exactly the same way twice, it would drive me crazy.

I can see romances on YouTube, which was the only significant thing I skipped in ME2.  It doesn't really matter to me, since I never play as male characters and would have done the same for half the romances anyway.  For me, replayability in ME2 was in higher difficulties and taking different interrupts.  I beat it three times, with the same character each time, and mainly made the same choices.  I have a renegade character whose game I still haven't finished.  My main Shepard is my favorite part of the game, and I like fleshing her out in my head.  I don't feel like I'm missing anything by focusing on her, if I didn't, I may not have finished at all.

I think I may replay different options for ME1 and 2 after I finish ME3, but for now, my Gwen Shepard's story is the one that I'm involved in the most.

[FireEye]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

No that is not even close to what I meant.

What I mean is that the best way to experience a game is to play it multiple times and try to follow a different path then you were on before.
I cant replay exactly the same way twice, it would drive me crazy.

As much as I enjoy taking different options, none of the other romances appeal to me.  So I'll happily mix up paragon, renegade, this squadmate, that squadmate, this quest first, that quest first... but for romances, I only have the one.

(Now, if Ashley was FemShep romancable, I would never have gotten off Virmire... )

[Giggles_Manically]

I just put myself in the head of the PC and let them go.



I like Kaidan's romance just fine, but my Spacer/Sole Survivor Anna was so hurt by what he said, and how he told her off that she deleted his email a few lines in, and ended up with Garrus.



Where as Jennifer got through the scene a bit better, and is waiting for him in the end. (still POed that LOTSB makes ZERO reference to Ash or Kai except for Horizon)



My PC's take on a life of their own and make choices that shock me.



Like my Renegon Infiltrator who was a Paragon in ME1, but went over board in ME2.

I find it much more fun to experience the game through the eyes of vastly different PCs.

[FireEye]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

My PC's take on a life of their own and make choices that shock me.

I find it much more fun to experience the game through the eyes of vastly different PCs.

Same.

And yet, none of the other romance options really appeal, even with different Shepards (one is currently single, one has Kaidan).  I have little interest in forcing them into situations they don't want to be in.  Because then they stop talking to me, making my head a very empty and lonely place to be while gaming. 

[sagefic]

FireEye wrote...
*snip*

....Because then they stop talking to me, making my head a very empty and lonely place to be while gaming. 

I love that you think this way. 

[CuzImShort]

FireEye wrote...

Giggles_Manically wrote...
I really do think that if one is to fully understand a game they must experience it from all angles, and view to fully appreciate it, especially in a Bioware Game.

So... BioWare games require sleeping around and a copy of the Kama Sutra? 

Why does exploring different aspects of a game have to be a bad thing? I apologize if I'm misinterpretating yours or others words, but that's what I'm gathering. I love all the aspects of Kaidan. His romance is my favorite and I'm in the middle of still pining over him whilst I wait for news of a possible VS DLC or Kaidan ME3 news. But, I've also romanced all the female LIs available. Does that make me less of a Kaidan fan?

Currently, I have... 9 Shapards... 11 if I include the others from ME1 I've 'newly' made. Still, 9 of those Shapards have romanced Kaidan in the past. Of those Shepards I've played:

• Luna romanced Thane
• Marielyn(Vanguard) romanced Jacob
• Ava romanced Garrus

Those three are also planned to stay with their respective ME2 LIs, but will seek to repair the friendship with Kaidan. Disregarding the one non-imported MaleShep, the rest of my Shapards have (or will) be faithful to Kaidan. That makes 2/3 of my FemSheps "Kaidan-claimed".

I digress, I get what Giggles_Manically meant, because I feel a similar way. Watching Youtube is all good and well, but it's different from playing it, experiencing it first hand, and getting emotionally involved. Ultimately, I gained an appreciation and understanding of those characters, even if I don't entirely like how their romance ended, began, the dialog, etc. And that is my main goal when diving into any game; understanding it's universe and the characters involved in it. At least if I come to dislike a romance or character, I have reasons other than cheesy dialog, a head bump, or creepy perfect memory. lol Hell, the only reason I'm bothering with a MaleShep(s) is to understand Jack a lil more and later with another Shep, romance Tali. If anything, having romanced all the other romances, I've come to love Kaidan and appreciate him even more. Even though I've played ME2 close to a dozen times now, I still get a sigh of relief everytime I see Kaidan survived Horizon, I still cry after Kaidan yells at my Shepard(s), and I still smile a little after reading his email. Don't get me started what I do whenever replay ME1. My brother says I look like a puppy wagging it's tail everytime its owner comes home.

Anyways, that's my two credits worth og thought. Not trying to rock thr boat, so have some Shenko tributes: www.youtube.com/watch One of my personal favs.

[FireEye]

CuzImShort wrote...

Why does exploring different aspects of a game have to be a bad thing? I apologize if I'm misinterpretating yours or others words, but that's what I'm gathering. I love all the aspects of Kaidan. His romance is my favorite and I'm in the middle of still pining over him whilst I wait for news of a possible VS DLC or Kaidan ME3 news. But, I've also romanced all the female LIs available. Does that make me less of a Kaidan fan?

It doesn't make you less of a Kaidan fan if you enjoy other romances.  I'm happy that someone can, because they were obviously written to be enjoyed (including Jacob).  I personally have not been able to - for either squick reasons or because I find them bland.

However.

If romance is necessary to fully understand the game, I personally think someone is writing it wrong or I myself am buying the wrong game - I enjoy my plots with a side of romance, not the other way around. 

Mostly, I was just poking fun at an implied meaning that I don't think Giggles really intended, and playing up his "from all angles".  The joke kinda fell flat.  If it bothers him (or anyone else, including you there, the lurker in the back - I see you) then you have my genuinely sincere apologies.



Please, enjoy this Kaidan. 

[Selenora]

the problem is i DO enjoy Kaidan too much

I have a 400 pages project to write with a 2 months deadline and all i do in my free time is replaying ME1 and daydreaming about kaidan..........grrrrrrrrrrrr..........i ......hate.......me

[syllogi]

FireEye wrote...

If romance is necessary to fully understand the game, I personally think someone is writing it wrong or I myself am buying the wrong game - I enjoy my plots with a side of romance, not the other way around. 

I don't think there's any "wrong" way to do it -- if someone is playing primarily to experience all romances, that's cool too, but I generally feel the same way as you, FireEye.  I *never* liked canon romances for female characters in games before Kaidan, and not having a romance in ME2 is more like the way I usually play, as a loner.  Only in Dragon Age did I finally feel like I had to check out all the romances, and I'm glad I did.  In ME2, however, because I'm attached to my FemShep, I feel like it's not right for her.  My character's "canon" makes it more realistic for her to stay single in this chapter.  I do hope things change in ME3, she's getting kind of frustrated...

[siriusrambles]

i developed my sheps' backgrounds and personalities prior to playing mass effect instead of the other way around. i rather relished repeating their storylines, sorta akin to watching my favorite movie or rereading a beloved book. they either chose to be single or pursue kaidan because that's what fit their characters.

i'm not a romance fan myself since they're constricted by in-game events thus lacking in detail and substance. however, kaidan's was the first i genuinely enjoyed. it's all dependent on the individual likes and dislikes of the gamer and the character created. as was stated previously, there's no right or wrong approach. it's personal preference.

@fire - i got your joke and thought it was funny.

Modifié par siriusrambles, 27 octobre 2010 - 02:52 .

[Nightodie]

I do get into the characters 'head' as it were. The problem is that once I am in there I can't look at the other romances. I love Garrus, really but not in a sexual way. I love talking to Thane, but again there isn't anything appealing about sleeping with him to me (yes and even his lips which are considered quite fine). Jacob does nothing to woo me.

Also gettting inside the mind of the Character it has only been about a month for her since Ilos. I don't know about you but for me, even if it were over with Kaidan and he wasn't the only thing not quest related on my mind (and he is), I would take longer then that to morn what could have been.

Until I can get one relationship off my mind there is no room for another.

As for my male Shep. I can't get him onto the Citadel for the first time. After Eden Prime when he couldn't even talk to Kaidan, I couldn't go on. He wouldn't have been able to romance anyone anyway. I couldn't Virmire Kaidan and Liara's innocents actually bothers me instead of interesting me. I don't trust Miranda, Jack doesn't appeal to me and Tali is in a suit, I couldn't even think of her that way.

This does not mean they are not good romances or not appealing, it is just how I view them.

In real life I wouldn't forget a moment like Ilos after a month. In game life i can't change that. I may get into their heads, but at the core, it's still me.

Modifié par Nightodie, 27 octobre 2010 - 02:39 .