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Nyrrti wrote...

Hi, im not sure if it was here but i once saw a album full with Mass Effect screenshots, also alot of kaidans. Does anyone know where to find them?


It could have been SageQueen's or Jhosephine's or Akodo's album...

social.bioware.com/1084270/blog/6341/

social.bioware.com//11885/albums/663694

picasaweb.google.com/102473743312490861055

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I think that the VS and Liara are getting a more important role in ME3 than every other squadmate or LI. Casey said that VS and Liara are no squadmates in ME2 because they are needed for ME3 - therefore there presence seems to be very important for the story.

With Garrus and Tali already becoming LIs in ME2 I have the feeling that Bioware is indeed listening to the fans. But of course not all wishes can be realized particularly if it would interfere with Biowares story plans.

I cannot see Bioware so cruel not to develop the romance options any further and/or to let Shepard and his/her LI die in ME3 without any other option. I do believe Casey when he said that the Bioware team have grown to their characters too.

Besides, Horizon could of course being better, but if you read stories or fanfiction, you often find some conflict between romance partners and the story continues how they find together despite this. It gives the romance a bittersweet and deeper development. You can also say that if VS and Shepard finds together, the romance can be stronger than before, because they got over this conflict.
 
But as we have a rpg with ME, you as a player are of course free to select other options (other LIs...).

I must say that I am more worried about the other LIs - with the romance of VS and Liara starting already in ME1 and their importance for ME3 I suppose that their romance could get more development and being more profound than the other ME2 romances. And this would be a pity, because there are great characters/LI in ME2 as well.

As I have a Shepard for nearly every (male) Li, I would like to see a happy ending for all LIs.

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I definitely agree that Liara and the VS will get a more important role in ME3. I'm not sure I'd be worried about the ME2 LIs, though. I can't see Bioware not bringing those relationships to some kind of satisfying conclusion as well. Also, since it was so easy to keep everyone alive in ME2, I have to wonder if the reason the VS was kept out of ME2 wasn't so much to keep them alive, but rather to keep them in the Alliance, especially given the emphasis that was placed on being an Alliance soldier in each of their conversations on Horizon.

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mykaN7_13 wrote...

I definitely agree that Liara and the VS will get a more important role in ME3. I'm not sure I'd be worried about the ME2 LIs, though. I can't see Bioware not bringing those relationships to some kind of satisfying conclusion as well. Also, since it was so easy to keep everyone alive in ME2, I have to wonder if the reason the VS was kept out of ME2 wasn't so much to keep them alive, but rather to keep them in the Alliance, especially given the emphasis that was placed on being an Alliance soldier in each of their conversations on Horizon.


Yes that is true and I am wondering how the romance will be affected if you play a renegade and keep ties with Cerberus but maybe there is really a connection between the Alliance and Cerberus and this will water the black and white border (Alliance = good/Cerberus = evil) and this could help VS to get closer again to Shepard.

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mykaN7_13 wrote...

... Also, since it was so easy to keep everyone alive in ME2, I have to wonder if the reason the VS was kept out of ME2 wasn't so much to keep them alive, but rather to keep them in the Alliance, especially given the emphasis that was placed on being an Alliance soldier in each of their conversations on Horizon.


If we continue with that SW Trilogy metaphor that the devs keep referring to - the Alliance = Jedi and Cerberus = Sith. The VS stayed a Jedi. Anderson left the order but returns to the Jedi. If Shepard is Luke then Shepard is going to go back to the Alliance.  (Admiral Hackett gives you back your tags in LotSB after all.) We've known Liara's involvement  in Shepard's story but we couldn't know the VS's involvement without giving away the plot of ME3. I'm going to stay positive here. I'm super excited to see the resolution of this story. 

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Eh.  For me, ME2 was not an enjoyable experience.  Less to do with Kaidan, more to do with the story/lore problems that killed the interest I had with it to begin with.  They could have killed Kaidan off in the intro and I'd still have stuck to it if the story interested me, even though I disliked the gameplay.

So, for me personally, even having Kaidan from the start as such an important squadmate with unique dialogue, comments on any given sidequest, and that you can't ever swap him out because the game demands it, would not save ME3 for me.  One character will not fix what ME2 broke.

I truly, honestly, from the depths of my black, shriveled little heart hope that you guys get the experience you want and expect.  I just can't share the enthusiasm.  :(

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I'd play through a mediocre shooter if it was well written and rewarded those who had been there since the beginning. That's a tall enough order in and of itself.

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Fire. Posted Image Here have a Kaidan:

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FireEye wrote...

Eh.  For me, ME2 was not an enjoyable experience.  Less to do with Kaidan, more to do with the story/lore problems that killed the interest I had with it to begin with.  They could have killed Kaidan off in the intro and I'd still have stuck to it if the story interested me, even though I disliked the gameplay.

So, for me personally, even having Kaidan from the start as such an important squadmate with unique dialogue, comments on any given sidequest, and that you can't ever swap him out because the game demands it, would not save ME3 for me.  One character will not fix what ME2 broke.

I truly, honestly, from the depths of my black, shriveled little heart hope that you guys get the experience you want and expect.  I just can't share the enthusiasm.  :(


I'm in the "loved the game, didn't love the plot" camp when it comes to ME2.  Didn't like the idea of working with Cerberus, didn't like the way recruitment and loyalty missions were cut up, didn't like how short and abrupt the squadmates interactions were if you were not planning to romance them, didn't like the lame final boss...BUT, the game still managed to be fun, despite all of it's flaws.  I still prefer traditional RPGs, but if I had to choose between ME1 and 2 when it comes to combat, I preferred the second.  

I have hope that this last game will be epic...they really do listen to fan criticisms, even if they don't fix things the way I would have wanted, and they do have some really great writers working at Bioware, so I think they still have a chance to create a balance of the clear and non-holey plot from the first game, with gameplay elements from the second, with more emphasis on character interaction and exploration.

So, if they do it right, hopefully ME3 will be my favorite of the trilogy.  I really do hope they do it right.

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Quaay wrote...

Nyrrti wrote...

Hi, im not sure if it was here but i once saw a album full with Mass Effect screenshots, also alot of kaidans. Does anyone know where to find them?


It could have been SageQueen's or Jhosephine's or Akodo's album...

social.bioware.com/1084270/blog/6341/

social.bioware.com//11885/albums/663694

picasaweb.google.com/102473743312490861055


Yes, thanks alot! :D

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Hey guys:

You people really need to pay mroe attention. I'm glad you're happy and all, but me and otehr BioWarians (liek Jesse Houston off the top of my head) have said this before. Pretty much after Lair of the Shadowbroker came out and everyone asked "is this the end?". We said, no there is more coming then, and we're still saying there is more DLC coming.

Please, try to keep up.

-Priestly.


So we don't have to be all down yet. There could be a VS dlc on our way maybe.

Modifié par fortunesque, 12 décembre 2010 - 06:52 .


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(grabs tent and moves to "love the game, don't love the plot" camp)

Maybe ME3 will show the reasons for all strange things happened in ME2, as: why hunt Collectors when Reapers are coming, why nobody believes geth couldn't create Sovereign, what was the purpose of fetus Reaper, which sadist wrote Horizon... Maybe. Then TES series will fabulously lose my first rank.

For me, VS plotline has enough drama. Some good moments, please?

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mineralica wrote...

(grabs tent and moves to "love the game, don't love the plot" camp)
Maybe ME3 will show the reasons for all strange things happened in ME2, as: why hunt Collectors when Reapers are coming, why nobody believes geth couldn't create Sovereign, what was the purpose of fetus Reaper, which sadist wrote Horizon... Maybe. Then TES series will fabulously lose my first rank.
For me, VS plotline has enough drama. Some good moments, please?


TES 5 was announced yesterday :D

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Chignon wrote...

Fire. Posted Image Here have a Kaidan:

[Kaidan]


*clings to the Kaidan*

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@Chig - I love that pic of Kaidan :)

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FireEye wrote...

*clings to the Kaidan*


You can cling to him at any time, Fire.

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Shenzi wrote...

@Chig - I love that pic of Kaidan :)


Thanks. I love the scene where they arrive on the Citadel for the first time. Posted Image

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So I replayed LotSB today. The whole time I was thinking how it was the best done DLC; the music, the cutscenes, the banter, (okay I felt a little silly meleeing the yahg but whatever) and how I hope they do a VS DLC half as good, and then it hit me. Maybe LotSB is the lead in to a VS DLC. Liara gets some intel on the last original party member to be recruited who happens to be in some kind of trouble? Huh, huh, maybe?

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chem light wrote...

So I replayed LotSB today. The whole time I was thinking how it was the best done DLC; the music, the cutscenes, the banter, (okay I felt a little silly meleeing the yahg but whatever) and how I hope they do a VS DLC half as good, and then it hit me. Maybe LotSB is the lead in to a VS DLC. Liara gets some intel on the last original party member to be recruited who happens to be in some kind of trouble? Huh, huh, maybe?

Hopefully.

Its awfully lonely for about a third of my Shepards.
You can only orbit Hagalaz so many times really. 

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I was thinking that too. I just hope they look the same and don't get a makeover like Liara did. She looks nice but.. it was a bit strange at first. Kaidan doesn't need to shave his head.



I also wondered too; when the consort gives you her "words of advice" after her mission, how does the response "Err, yeah, thanks I guess." warrant having sex?







Did the squad just.... watch?

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chem light wrote...

So I replayed LotSB today. The whole time I was thinking how it was the best done DLC; the music, the cutscenes, the banter, (okay I felt a little silly meleeing the yahg but whatever) and how I hope they do a VS DLC half as good, and then it hit me. Maybe LotSB is the lead in to a VS DLC. Liara gets some intel on the last original party member to be recruited who happens to be in some kind of trouble? Huh, huh, maybe?


What kind of trouble is some kind of trouble, though?  I'm still of a mind that I'd rather not see the VS need to be rescued.

... nevermind.  Eventually I'll learn.  *clings to [salute Kaidan], meanwhile*

Batteries wrote...

I also wondered too; when the consort
gives you her "words of advice" after her mission, how does the response "Err, yeah, thanks I guess." warrant having sex?

Did the squad just.... watch?


"Asari," and "yes."  Respectively.  ^_^

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Im positive here as well. I can always swear, get banned, leave later :)



What can i say? Once a Bio fan.....always a Bio fan lol

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The Consort traumatised my only MShep forever.  Posted Image


FireEye wrote...

... nevermind.  Eventually I'll learn.  *clings to [salute Kaidan], meanwhile*


Feeling a bit better?

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Actually I don't mind to see a bit different VS. Say, Ashley with her hair loose or slightly unshaved Kaidan.

Wait, TES V is announced? TES V is announced??? I hope tomorrow I'll be sober enough to find way to university. Thanks for good news!

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@ Fort. Thank you for that update. You're the best.

Click on the links in my sig for pictures, click on the Artists and Authors links for more pictures.

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(yes TES V was announced... Skyrim!!!!)

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mineralica wrote...

Actually I don't mind to see a bit different VS. Say, Ashley with her hair loose or slightly unshaved Kaidan.
Wait, TES V is announced? TES V is announced??? I hope tomorrow I'll be sober enough to find way to university. Thanks for good news!

OH I really like the idea of scruffy Kaidan.

And I finally found a freaking reference to the Horizon fight.  Liara says she heard what he said and was sorry if you confide in her that your frustrated (to vigil's theme no less.)

YAY!  Somebody on this damn ship cares about me.