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It crossed my mind when I first did Horizon but I try not to think about it anymore. If BioWare puts us through that I'll flip. Do not want. Ugh.

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Encarmine wrote...

hey Kaidan fans. interesting thing i just read on a different post, about possible reaper agents. Does anyone here think its wierd that the VS survivor is just magicly free from stasis on the ME2 mission.

I mean, the protheans had a problem of sleeper agents etc being accepted as refugees only for them to lead the reapers to a new planet to harvest.

Would you guys freak at the very notion of Kaidan ending up as a unwitting agent of the reapers? didnt he/ashley seem out of character when meeting sheperd, after all they have been through, Tali has more reason to hate Cerberus but gets over it better than the VS survivor...?


I asked that same question quite a while ago in here, too and the conclusion was that no one in here would be happy with it...which is quite understandable ;)

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yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

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I agree with Quaay in this case...I don't want even to think about the possibility, that the VS could be a unwitting agent of the reapers....

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Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?


A wizard did it.

But to be serious. It's a possibility, but man. There would be serious amounts of raging on the forums if it happend.

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Seriously, I'm curled up in a corner rocking back and forth with my fingers in my ears and my eyes closed "LALALALALALALALALALA I can't hear youuuuuuuuu!"

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Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)

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well its not all doom and gloom, say for one sec i am right (but thankfully for you guys i very rarely am) it might turn out to be some amazing rescue thing for sheperd, help the VS break free of the control, or some super darthvader moment, where the VS 'wakes up' and throws the proverbial emperor down the well. if you follow my rambling lol

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NO. NO. NO. I WILL blow Bioware up if they do that to us. We had to put up with lots of s*** till now.



I dont know if the collectors had enough time to do anything to him. It was just good luck they didnt get him. I beleive it just fits to the plan of....whatever Bio plans to do with the VS to just be saved and SAFE.

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)


Just curious about your name here, coz it rings a  bell :)

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Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

hey Kaidan fans. interesting thing i just read on a different post, about possible reaper agents. Does anyone here think its wierd that the VS survivor is just magicly free from stasis on the ME2 mission.

I mean, the protheans had a problem of sleeper agents etc being accepted as refugees only for them to lead the reapers to a new planet to harvest.

Would you guys freak at the very notion of Kaidan ending up as a unwitting agent of the reapers? didnt he/ashley seem out of character when meeting sheperd, after all they have been through, Tali has more reason to hate Cerberus but gets over it better than the VS survivor...?


I asked that same question quite a while ago in here, too and the conclusion was that no one in here would be happy with it...which is quite understandable ;)


Which is what I said several pages ago.  (sorry RL is interfering with me keeping up.  It wouldn't surprise me, and I would not be happy!!!  Posted Image

Also please take a gander at this weeks Prompt in the KAAS... Tomorrow ends the creation phase and the voting starts.  Get your entries in.   I am waiting.  Click the link to find the thread.

Kaidan Alenko Prompt Project


You know you want to...

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V-rex wrote...

Hey friendly bump from the Ashley thread.

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Came across this as I was surfing the Internets, don't know if you guys might have used it before but I thought you might like it.

Double your pleasure :)

Kaidan sandwich..................... Why, that's the very best kind :wub:

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Selenora wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)


Just curious about your name here, coz it rings a  bell :)


whos name, mine or system lord baal? :)

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Hawkeyeisms wrote...

I will say, as sad as the song is, My Immortal by Evanescence fits the Shepard/Kaidan relationship during ME2 =/

that was my first choice as well. I do have a list of other sad songs too tho that fit to their situation :)
And the "Quest" for Shep's feelings suits me well.

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Encarmine wrote...

Selenora wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)


Just curious about your name here, coz it rings a  bell :)


whos name, mine or system lord baal? :)

Lord's.........reminds me of....old games :)

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@Encarmine

I am an Ashley fan, not a Kaiden fan but given that I would be in the same boat in this situation, it is most definetly a NO. As others have said, we Virmire Survivors have gone through enough crap already without an arbitrary 'Kaiden/Ashley has now become a Reaper drone lolz' plot twist being added to the mix.
It's stupid and obnoxious and above all else, lame. Lame that we should have to recieve such an unfair treatment of our favorite characters that they end up having to be pushed into the plot as arbitrary villains.

There's logic against it of course, an indoctrinated person wouldn't have sent an email and how did the Collectors ever find the time to compress what is considered a long slow process that can take days or weeks or months of prolonged exposure to Reaper technology to happen.
But really, who cares? I hate the very idea of it. It's stupid.

No offence.

That said, I'll be happy to see this plot twist only if Tali turns out to be secretly a spy for the resurrected clone of Saren, Garrus ends up having a crippling addiction to eating human flesh, Thane spreads his disease after all, Miranda betrays you for Cerberus, Jacob pushes you out the airlock, Jack leaves you for someone else and Liara was manipulating you from the start.
That way, at least, everyone gets screwed not just us. I see no reason why the crap should pile up for us, we have it bad enough already without the damn 'Reaper Clone' theory.


Encarmine wrote...

well its not all doom and gloom, say for one sec i am right (but thankfully for you guys i very rarely am) it might turn out to be some amazing rescue thing for sheperd, help the VS break free of the control, or some super darthvader moment, where the VS 'wakes up' and throws the proverbial emperor down the well. if you follow my rambling lol


Honestly, I hate that too. It's better than 'having to kill them for they are the new evil boss' but still really lame. I mean come on it's basically saying that the only way anyone could EVER not agree with Shepard about something is because of sinister manipulations. How contrived would that be?
Why should any actual emotion of this whole situation between Shepard and the VS be compromised in favor of a random 'oh you saved me, obviously the evils of the reapers were what made me question your greatness for even a second oh mighty sensai'.

It would be really hard to do this whole thing justice without having it come across as contrived at best and self indulgent 'Shepard is so wonderful' at worst.

I'm sorry but the way I see it is that there is a thorn in the relationship with Shepard and the VS and they need to work out their problems and reconnect in whatever way they had before on their own terms. I think I speak for the majority at least when I say that's what people want to see, I see no reason why everyone else should get off fine and dandy but we get to deal with indoctrination subplots.

Again, sorry if I offended you, I meant no offence to you personally. It's just that I hear this so many times and each time the dread and fear that this might actually happen cuts me up inside.:crying:

Modifié par V-rex, 15 décembre 2010 - 03:26 .


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Selenora wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)


Just curious about your name here, coz it rings a  bell :)

If it is Baal, think Stargate................... :D

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Well said, V-rex. Well said.

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Encarmine wrote...
Would you guys freak at the very notion of Kaidan ending up as a unwitting agent of the reapers? didnt he/ashley seem out of character when meeting sheperd, after all they have been through, Tali has more reason to hate Cerberus but gets over it better than the VS survivor...?

Yes.  Unless  they make it where he was being used against his will and can defy them in the end...for me, of course.  If they pull another Bishop, I may have to go postal.

And I hope they give us a way to punish him for being such a butt.  Though, in reality, you have to think about what happened as being a very human way of dealing with that moment.  He had a long time to try and get over Shephard and was just starting to come to grips with it when all of a sudden, there she is....and she appears to be working for the enemy.  That would be quite a shock to see someone risen from the dead and seemingly on the other side of the law.  I think he was hasty, but it was understandable.  He didn't have anytime to process the information and once he did, he was sorry for what he said.

I still think we should be able to torment him a little for it though.  Posted Image

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Jenova65 wrote...

Selenora wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)


Just curious about your name here, coz it rings a  bell :)

If it is Baal, think Stargate................... :D

I had Baldur's Gate on mind but im not sure about it since it's many years i've played the games but.........

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n2nw wrote...

Encarmine wrote...
Would you guys freak at the very notion of Kaidan ending up as a unwitting agent of the reapers? didnt he/ashley seem out of character when meeting sheperd, after all they have been through, Tali has more reason to hate Cerberus but gets over it better than the VS survivor...?

Yes.  Unless  they make it where he was being used against his will and can defy them in the end...for me, of course.  If they pull another Bishop, I may have to go postal.

And I hope they give us a way to punish him for being such a butt.  Though, in reality, you have to think about what happened as being a very human way of dealing with that moment.  He had a long time to try and get over Shephard and was just starting to come to grips with it when all of a sudden, there she is....and she appears to be working for the enemy.  That would be quite a shock to see someone risen from the dead and seemingly on the other side of the law.  I think he was hasty, but it was understandable.  He didn't have anytime to process the information and once he did, he was sorry for what he said.

I still think we should be able to torment him a little for it though.  Posted Image


Hey...long time no seeing  N2NW :)

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Hey...long time no seeing  N2NW :)

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I'm going to chime in for a moment and say I agree with everyone else. I really don't want to think about Kaidan being affected by indoctrination or anything similar, and it's actually not as unreasonable as you'd think for Kaidan to have been left unscathed after Horizon. According to the mission summary posted here, masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Horizon_(mission) , the Collectors only got 1/3 of Horizon's population, so Kaidan/Ashley wouldn't be the only survivor of the Collectors.

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Selenora wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

Selenora wrote...

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Encarmine wrote...

yeah i appreciate there is some serious kaidan love here, which is cool, but its a real random that he just emerges from nowhere after being placed in stasis, and only about 150yards away from where we see all the colectors walking about and loading people up into the crates, even the girl he was talking to get collected?

I know, that's how I thought of it, aswell. It could be quite the twist and make for an engaging part of the story, but VS fans had a lot to put up with...I think it's time to give them/us a break. :)


Just curious about your name here, coz it rings a  bell :)

If it is Baal, think Stargate................... :D

I had Baldur's Gate on mind but im not sure about it since it's many years i've played the games but.........


Nope.  It's Stargate.  He's a Go'a'uld.  Eyes glow... plans for galactic domination... has a snake in his head....thinks a bit too well of himself.