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Pacifien wrote...

So what do you get Kaidan for Christmas? The latest Omnitool? Galaxy of Fantasy: Catastrophe Expansion? Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: When Hanar Attack 3D?

A turian -- so Kaidan can snap his neck.

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You won't believe it, my husband was going to get it me a Kaidan T-Shirt, but since they don't sell them I got a Mass Effect 1 Fan t-shirt...And even that means a lot, since he doesn't like me spending so much time playing ME1..:D

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Eep, I've never posted in here before (first time jitters, ahoy), but I thought I'd pop in and wish fellow Kaidan fans a Merry Christmas. :) Enjoy your day, folks~

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Calla S wrote...
Eep, I've never posted in here before (first time jitters, ahoy), but I thought I'd pop in and wish fellow Kaidan fans a Merry Christmas. :) Enjoy your day, folks~

Well, if you're going to make a first post, make sure it is awesome. Like a picture of Kaidan in a santa hat.

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FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

So what do you get Kaidan for Christmas? The latest Omnitool? Galaxy of Fantasy: Catastrophe Expansion? Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: When Hanar Attack 3D?

A turian -- so Kaidan can snap his neck.


Uh, no.  That's not Kaidan.  You must have him mixed up with some crappy fanfic character.  "He wasn't a Turian to me, he was Vyrnnus."  Kaidan doesn't hate Turians.

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Commander Alenko better report for duty in Mass Effect 3... I bypassed 2 possible romance partners with my imported character for him, darn it all. I want my biotic back. Nothing against Garrus and Thane.... I just made different characters for them, lol.

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Daewan wrote...

FieryPhoenix7 wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

So what do you get Kaidan for Christmas? The latest Omnitool? Galaxy of Fantasy: Catastrophe Expansion? Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: When Hanar Attack 3D?

A turian -- so Kaidan can snap his neck.


Uh, no.  That's not Kaidan.  You must have him mixed up with some crappy fanfic character.  "He wasn't a Turian to me, he was Vyrnnus."  Kaidan doesn't hate Turians.

I know. Was a random joke anyway. :P

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What philosophical debate would ensue between Kaidan and Grunt about their dislike of one Turian/all Turians?

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I hope we'll see that in ME3, Pacifien.

Calla S wrote...

Eep, I've never posted in here before (first time jitters, ahoy), but I thought I'd pop in and wish fellow Kaidan fans a Merry Christmas. :) Enjoy your day, folks~

/Kaidan picsnip


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Aslanasadi wrote...

Atm I play DA:O again (when I have some time left) but as soon as I'm done (even so I really think Alistair is cute)...I have a meeting with a certain LT on the Normandy in ME 1...I played it so often and I don't get tired to let my Shepard romance Kaidan again and again...And I'm glad that I have so much screenshots of Kaidan, that, in case someone steals my PC one day will think I have a serous mental problem...lol...

Merry Christmas!


Im giving DAO another go, during my holidays now, heavy modded tho :) try them they are awesome...and i love the Cullen small mod too (yes, yes im a Cullen lover :wub:)

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About old fans: thank you all for clarification. I'm just a crazy fan who can't stop remembering old games and characters - was caught playing Morrowind recently.

About gift for Kaidan - this already happened once, at my 2nd ME1 playthrough. Start of the game, limited money, hard choice if to buy medium Scorpio IV for Shepard or light one for Kaidan.

Ah, btw, some guy in poll section offers Mary Christmas for everyone!

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Calla S wrote...

Eep, I've never posted in here before (first time jitters, ahoy), but I thought I'd pop in and wish fellow Kaidan fans a Merry Christmas. :) Enjoy your day, folks~

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The Santa hat only adds to the awesome that is this really good screencap. ^_^

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This thread is full of pics that would have made awesome home made Christmas cards this year :P

Calla S <3 it thanks for posting it :D



Kaidan got the colosus light armor this Christmas. I finally had a carry on game that had it from the start yay. My favorite on him. (I need a black and red santa hat to match!)

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Ianthia wrote...

This thread is full of pics that would have made awesome home made Christmas cards this year :P
Calla S

Kaidan got the colosus light armor this Christmas. I finally had a carry on game that had it from the start yay. My favorite on him. (I need a black and red santa hat to match!)


colossus armor gets all the love!! Personally, I like the predator x armor best. Overall superior stats and very soldierly looking. When Shep is hit on by Harkin it makes much more sense that he comments on "The soldier get-up" with something that's camoflage, instead of armor that any merc would don.

For the sake of chrismasty colors, I suppose Colossus armor gets a pass. I do like Kaidan in green, though. That counts, right?

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dirae wrote...

Ianthia wrote...

This thread is full of pics that would have made awesome home made Christmas cards this year :P
Calla S

Kaidan got the colosus light armor this Christmas. I finally had a carry on game that had it from the start yay. My favorite on him. (I need a black and red santa hat to match!)


colossus armor gets all the love!! Personally, I like the predator x armor best. Overall superior stats and very soldierly looking. When Shep is hit on by Harkin it makes much more sense that he comments on "The soldier get-up" with something that's camoflage, instead of armor that any merc would don.

For the sake of chrismasty colors, I suppose Colossus armor gets a pass. I do like Kaidan in green, though. That counts, right?


Personally, I don't like Kaidan in anything, but maybe that's just me. :innocent:

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Calla S wrote...

Eep, I've never posted in here before (first time jitters, ahoy), but I thought I'd pop in and wish fellow Kaidan fans a Merry Christmas. :) Enjoy your day, folks~


I can't stop laughing every time I look at this pic; that face of Kaidan seems to be saying "Yes I put a Santa hat on and yes you're making funny comments, I know". Thank you so much for the awesome pic, wish I had it on my Christmas tree as postcard!

By the way, here in Spain we exchange presents on 6th January, the Three Kings day. So Kaidan still have some presents coming his way ^_^

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Hi, I have to unlurk for a moment again - Merry Christmas everybody, by the way. :happy:

The thing is, I am playing ME with a femShep again and I have reached this conversation with Kaidan, after the second mission, where he gets all in a twist about "cutting corners" and how bad that is.

Now, I've never quite understood this dialogue. Don't get me wrong. I really love Kaidan trying to help my Shepard, but I don't understand why he is assuming that Shepard would cut corners in the first place. Most of my Shepards are Paragons or at least Paragades. Is this directed mainly at a Renegade Shep?

Or is he talking about the Council? Or the Alliance? But when my Shep is challenging him and asking him, whether he thinks, she is cutting corners, he seems to affirm that, saying he wants to stop someone he likes making mistakes ("Child on a ledge" quote).

Or is this just a general fear of his (born from his experiences at brain camp)?

Sorry, if this has been discussed before, but the whole dialogue just always sits slightly wrong with me when I play it, and I would so much like to find a proper context for it.

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Renessa wrote...

Hi, I have to unlurk for a moment again - Merry Christmas everybody, by the way. :happy:

The thing is, I am playing ME with a femShep again and I have reached this conversation with Kaidan, after the second mission, where he gets all in a twist about "cutting corners" and how bad that is.

Now, I've never quite understood this dialogue. Don't get me wrong. I really love Kaidan trying to help my Shepard, but I don't understand why he is assuming that Shepard would cut corners in the first place. Most of my Shepards are Paragons or at least Paragades. Is this directed mainly at a Renegade Shep?

Or is he talking about the Council? Or the Alliance? But when my Shep is challenging him and asking him, whether he thinks, she is cutting corners, he seems to affirm that, saying he wants to stop someone he likes making mistakes ("Child on a ledge" quote).

Or is this just a general fear of his (born from his experiences at brain camp)?

Sorry, if this has been discussed before, but the whole dialogue just always sits slightly wrong with me when I play it, and I would so much like to find a proper context for it.


I think it's both a general fear -- since he "cut corners" himself, too, when he reacted to Vyrnuus, and ended up killing him -- and a concern for Shepard.  I play mostly Paragon too, and I don't think he was specifically talking about anything that had been done up to that point, but he worried that things could get out of control, even if Shepard had good intentions, like he did when he wanted to defend Rahna.  That story was something he doesn't tell everyone, and he probably was worried that it would portray him in a bad light, but he told it to his commanding officer to let him/her know why he had the concern that he did, and perhaps letting Shepard know why he is so cautious in general.

I think some people interpret it as Kaidan not "trusting" Shepard to do the right thing, but I don't think he would have told the story at all if he didn't trust Shepard.  I think he told it because he saw that they were in a dire situation, but they still needed to proceed with caution.

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Pacifien wrote...

What philosophical debate would ensue between Kaidan and Grunt about their dislike of one Turian/all Turians?

Grunt seems reluctant to grant any validity to such distinctions ("humans talk too much"), with the notable exception of accepting Garrus as a member of Shepard's crew/clan rather than simply regarding him as a turian.  So I think Kaidan would talk rings around him and he just wouldn't care.

I do like Grunt, but patience and forethought don't seem to be special strengths of his.  (He is just a kid, after all.  A kid who can kill a thresher maw, but hey...)

PS: Just saw this from Wynndfae on DA.  :wub:

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Renessa wrote...

Hi, I have to unlurk for a moment again - Merry Christmas everybody, by the way. :happy:

The thing is, I am playing ME with a femShep again and I have reached this conversation with Kaidan, after the second mission, where he gets all in a twist about "cutting corners" and how bad that is.

Now, I've never quite understood this dialogue. Don't get me wrong. I really love Kaidan trying to help my Shepard, but I don't understand why he is assuming that Shepard would cut corners in the first place. Most of my Shepards are Paragons or at least Paragades. Is this directed mainly at a Renegade Shep?

Or is he talking about the Council? Or the Alliance? But when my Shep is challenging him and asking him, whether he thinks, she is cutting corners, he seems to affirm that, saying he wants to stop someone he likes making mistakes ("Child on a ledge" quote).

Or is this just a general fear of his (born from his experiences at brain camp)?

Sorry, if this has been discussed before, but the whole dialogue just always sits slightly wrong with me when I play it, and I would so much like to find a proper context for it.


The conversation starts with, "try to leave yourself a way out" and ends (with the neutral dialogue) with Kaidan admitting that cutting corners is probably inevitable.  If you look at it backwards, it might make a bit more sense.

I translate it more or less like this: "We're going to have some hard choices ahead and I don't like it; I'll be there for whatever support and advice you need, but until I know more details, I can only advise that you try not to cut off your escape route once we're in the thick of things."

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He's basically saying that when people get into a bind, they tend to cut corners and mess things up. That's his concern.



The Council has been impeding progress every step of the way and the Normandy is basically hanging out there alone. Their mission is so covert that there's nobody there to back them up. He wants Shepard to know that he's there for him/her (his dialog with romanced femShep shows this more but it is there for dudeShep). It's not an accusation so much as it's a cautionary tale.

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fortunesque wrote...

He's basically saying that when people get into a bind, they tend to cut corners and mess things up. That's his concern.

The Council has been impeding progress every step of the way and the Normandy is basically hanging out there alone. Their mission is so covert that there's nobody there to back them up. He wants Shepard to know that he's there for him/her (his dialog with romanced femShep shows this more but it is there for dudeShep). It's not an accusation so much as it's a cautionary tale.


I interpreted it this way as well.

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Estelindis wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

What philosophical debate would ensue between Kaidan and Grunt about their dislike of one Turian/all Turians?

Grunt seems reluctant to grant any validity to such distinctions ("humans talk too much"), with the notable exception of accepting Garrus as a member of Shepard's crew/clan rather than simply regarding him as a turian.  So I think Kaidan would talk rings around him and he just wouldn't care.

I do like Grunt, but patience and forethought don't seem to be special strengths of his.  (He is just a kid, after all.  A kid who can kill a thresher maw, but hey...)
PS: Just saw this from Wynndfae on DA.  :wub:

My squad in ME1 (ALL Shepards & classes) was Wrex & Kaiden (and I always save him on Virmire MaleShep or FemShep LI). In ME2 Gunt goes everywhere (minus a couple of loyalty missions) because he LIKES killing for Shepard and has the best lines (with Jacob, Zaeed or Jack). And yeah he IS a BIG indestructible kid.
What would I get Kaiden for Xmas? A front row seat for a full contact NHB fight between Grunt & Garrus after Garrus disappoints Shepard and turns on Grunt. Shepard HATES Turians, Kaiden hates Turians and Grunt HATES Turians, plus if "Garrus is to weak to fight, he doesn't deserve the kill" (Dr Saleon if you take Kaiden & Wrex and not Garrus, he just pouts). Then bring on the Pykaks.
My hopes after ME3 for the next series is, "Mass Effect the Adventures of Grunt" (now THAT BW can make as a SHOOTER/action/rpg).

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Kaidan doesn't hate turians, even if you renegade him.

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Kaidan's probably the most tolerant of all of the squad mates in both games, lol.