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[syllogi]

Sialater wrote...

Avery the Adept was romancing him and I got it on her.

I've never gotten it, with at least six characters, and I always romanced him except for one playthrough with an engineer (didn't get it with her, either).  I wonder if it's a PC/Xbox issue?

[Sialater]

Or it could just be bugged.

[Siansonea]

meonlyred wrote...

Eliantariel wrote...

I have a question about Kaidan in ME1: in the ME wiki I read, that Kaidan tells Shepard that his L2 implants spike higher than the L3s, except Shepards implants (Wiki reference).

I don't understand why it was necessary to add that Shepards implants are stronger, why can't Kaidan be a better biotic than Shepard? In ME2 Samara and Jack are better than Shepard, too, so why not Kaidan? Or maybe I understand it wrong.
But the question I wanted to ask is - has anyone of you got this dialogue with a femshep? I never got this line from Kaidan (even while playing an adept), so I was just wondering about that....

Here is how I see it, all human biotics are at different levels of talent, regardless of what implant they have. Implants don't really make you more or less powerful just help you with you ability to channel that power. Think of it as a dam letting water through. There can be a lake on the other side but if the dam doesn't let it through it doesn't matter. Same if there was a puddle of water, you could have to dam wide open and it wouldn't do any good. But Kaidan really is one of the most powerful human biotics. I believe, one of the squadmates compares him to an asari in one of the elevator chats. Remember Shepard's team are the best of the best.

Jack is probably one of the most power human biotics, followed Shepard, Miranda is probably somewhere between Shepard and Kaidan, Jacob is an 'average' human biotic. Most Asari are much more powerful then any human biotic. Biotic potential is different species to species.

EDIT: you can only get that dialog if you are not romantic with him. It is a bug that he says it no matter if you are a biotic or not.

This. Jack is probably the most powerful human biotic ever, rivaling an asari for biotic potential. But as powerful as she is, she doesn't have the finesse of a powerful asari Matriarch like Benezia or Samara. I get the impression from the game that Samara's badassery is more due to her Justicar training than her biotic prowess. I think in game terms her biotic ability is on par with other asari her age. But those other asari don't go around hunting ardat-yakshi with an assault rifle.

Liara, being a very young asari, is probably on par with the powerful human biotics like Jack, but I can't see her being equivalent to asari Matrons and Matriarchs. In a one-on-one fight, Liara would lose to Samara or Aria, but she could probably hold her own with Jack, Miranda, or Kaidan.

I think Kaidan is easily a more powerful biotic than Jacob, just by virtue of the fact that Kaidan has the L2 implant. He’s probably on par with Miranda though, it's possible that Miranda also has an L2, given her age (she's actually a year older than Kaidan) in which case she could be as powerful as Kaidan. Given Cerberus' resources, it's possible that her L2 implant has been tweaked to reduce the side effects those implants are notorious for. I highly doubt that Miranda's father would allow her 'downgrade' to an L3 implant under any circumstances, given what she says about him. And possibly her genetic engineering makes her less susceptible to those side effects in the first place. In any case, having Kaidan and Miranda be on par biotically makes some sense. Jacob is another matter though. I don't get the impression that biotics has ever been the primary focus of his training, and he is seven years younger than Miranda and six years younger than Kaidan, so he was in all likelihood fitted with an L3 implant from the beginning. That, in addition to his combat training, probably puts him in the biotic tier below Kaidan and Miranda, and well below Jack and asari.

I think an Adept Shepard is probably on par with Miranda and Kaidan from a biotic strength standpoint, and possibly as powerful as Jack or Liara. I think Shepard has exceptional biotic potential, which is only limited by his/her L3 implant. This would make Shepard stronger than Jacob, and even with Kaidan and Miranda, and only slightly less powerful than Liara. As we've seen with Jack, an L3 implant doesn't automatically indicate a comparatively weak biotic potential, it just means the individual has to work harder to really get the most out of his/her implant. Of course this is based on the assumption that Jack has an L3 implant, I can’t imagine someone as young as her being fitted with an L2. It’s possible, though, that there was a specially-made implant that Cerberus created just for her.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 02 janvier 2011 - 06:54 .

[Melindil]

Do we have any info on the upper limits of the L4s and L5s? I get the impression that the upper limits on those might be on par with the upper limits of the L2s, though without the debilitating side effects.

Technicalities aside, I'd be terrified to be on the receiving end of Kaidan's abilities, especially after he stops holding himself back.

And because this page needs a Kaidan, one of my favorites by Jho.

Modifié par Melindil, 02 janvier 2011 - 07:06 .

[fortunesque]

If I remember right, the L4 and L5 implants have the least amount of complications but are still weaker than L2s. But they are stronger than an L3.

[Melindil]

Okay.  I wasn't sure if they were weaker or roughly equivalent but I did know that there were fewer complications.

It still boggles my mind that out of all of the potential side effects of the L2 configuration, migraines are one of the best possible scenarios.  I remember being like on my first playthrough when Chakwas said that Kaidan was "lucky" because he just gets migraines.  Not having any real background at the time, I was just like, "Just how bad are the other side effects if migraines are considered 'lucky?'"

[leggywillow]

Melindil wrote...

Technicalities aside, I'd be terrified to be on the receiving end of Kaidan's abilities, especially after he stops holding himself back.

::dirty-minded snicker::  His biotic abilities maybe.  

[Melindil]

leggywillow wrote...

Melindil wrote...

Technicalities aside, I'd be terrified to be on the receiving end of Kaidan's abilities, especially after he stops holding himself back.

::dirty-minded snicker::  His biotic abilities maybe.  

Well played. I like the way you think.

[Shenzi]

TeenZombie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Avery the Adept was romancing him and I got it on her.

I've never gotten it, with at least six characters, and I always romanced him except for one playthrough with an engineer (didn't get it with her, either).  I wonder if it's a PC/Xbox issue?

I play on the PC and I've never gotten the line either.  I've romanced him with a solider, adept, vanguard and engineer.

[Jean]

Chignon wrote...

All the reasons are ridiculous, Lovestories. Though, I have to say my personal favourite is "He's fat!". Uh, okay. /:

You can see the man's abs through his shirt.
Of course all of the male models in that clothing do, he's the only one I noticed it with.

[CroGamer002]

Batteries wrote...

You couldn't even mention Kaidan, much less say you liked him. Whole thread would become a troll train.

Lovestories wrote...

After that forum it feels weird and
bazaar that I can say I like Kaidan without someone jumping in with a
line from that bingo square.
That bingo is hilarious. Sad people
have actually used them. =/ I think the one I find the most ridiculous
is "didn't want a threesome"....Wow...Just...Wow.

That bad?

To be honest I though I wouldn't like Kaidan at all but he grew on me even before I did FemShep playthrough with romancing him.

Same thing did not happen with Jacob.

[CroGamer002]

Melindil wrote...

Do we have any info on the upper limits of the L4s and L5s? I get the impression that the upper limits on those might be on par with the upper limits of the L2s, though without the debilitating side effects.

Technicalities aside, I'd be terrified to be on the receiving end of Kaidan's abilities, especially after he stops holding himself back.

And because this page needs a Kaidan, one of my favorites by Jho.

He looks evil.
Badass!

[FireEye]

Batteries wrote...

Chignon wrote...

All the reasons are ridiculous, Lovestories. Though, I have to say my personal favourite is "He's fat!". Uh, okay. /:

You can see the man's abs through his shirt.
Of course all of the male models in that clothing do, he's the only one I noticed it with.

Clearly he is rotund.



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[CroGamer002]

^When does he do that?

[Chignon]

FireEye wrote...

Clearly he is rotund.



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[Star]

TeenZombie wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Avery the Adept was romancing him and I got it on her.

I've never gotten it, with at least six characters, and I always romanced him except for one playthrough with an engineer (didn't get it with her, either).  I wonder if it's a PC/Xbox issue?

I've never gotten it with a FemShep but I have gotten it with my one and only male Shep (and Adept).  From what I've read in other threads it's linked to the friendship tree.  Possibly it's linked by sex as well.

[syllogi]

Mesina2 wrote...

^When does he do that?

That looks like the scene in medbay, after Eden Prime, when Anderson enters and Kaidan leaves, but whomever was taking the screenshot used flycam.

[CroGamer002]

TeenZombie wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^When does he do that?

That looks like the scene in medbay, after Eden Prime, when Anderson enters and Kaidan leaves, but whomever was taking the screenshot used flycam.

There are mods for ME1?!

[syllogi]

Mesina2 wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^When does he do that?

That looks like the scene in medbay, after Eden Prime, when Anderson enters and Kaidan leaves, but whomever was taking the screenshot used flycam.

There are mods for ME1?!

ME1 had the console, which made cheating even easier than with ME2, but you could make changes to the ini files in the same way, here's a list:  http://masseffect.wi.../wiki/PC_Tweaks

[FireEye]

Mesina2 wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^When does he do that?

That looks like the scene in medbay, after Eden Prime, when Anderson enters and Kaidan leaves, but whomever was taking the screenshot used flycam.

There are mods for ME1?!

Flycam and PlayersOnly in the Medbay after Eden Prime, Female Shepard [so... Kaidan hovering over your bed instead of Ashley].

<3 PC. 

Chignon wrote...

FireEye wrote...

Clearly he is rotund.



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[SadKaidan]

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GAH!  I give!  Anything you want, just not the sad face! 

[Chignon]

FireEye wrote...

GAH!  I give!  Anything you want, just not the sad face! 

/snip

That's much better!

[Sialater]

Who took me away from Shepard?

Modifié par Sialater, 02 janvier 2011 - 09:34 .

[DWH1982]

Batteries wrote...

Chignon wrote...

All the reasons are ridiculous, Lovestories. Though, I have to say my personal favourite is "He's fat!". Uh, okay. /:

You can see the man's abs through his shirt.
Of course all of the male models in that clothing do, he's the only one I noticed it with.

If Kaidan Alenko is what people consider "fat" nowadays, then there's no hope for me at all.  I've always thought he looked trim and in shape - exactly what I'd expect from a well trained Alliance marine.

There was also a thread recently devoted to discussing how Ashley "could be hotter."  Despite the fact that her appearance is based off of a Russian model, a common view among Ash haters is that she's "ugly."  So, I think people just have really warped views on what computer game characters should look like.  Or they just decide to hate a character, and grasp at any reason they can find to do so.

[sapphyreelf]

Sialater wrote...

I believe it is. I've heard of people getting it on a soldier, of all things.

The only time I've gotten it is with my femShep Soldier who had 1 point in Lift as an extra ability.

My Vanguard and Adept, who both romanced him, did not get the dialogue. The soldier who turned him down, did.

[FireEye]

Chignon wrote...

That's much better!

[Smiling Kaidan]

Awwww! 



Happy Kaidan is the best.