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Chignon wrote...

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But you don't break up with the ME2 LI.


Hope that's not how 3 will deal with it.


No, you don't. If you complete LotSB before the Suicide Mission, you can even get both love scenes.


Not breaking up with the ME2 LI while reuniting with the ME LI is the only scenario I'd call cheating, and I hope Shepard is dumped by both if s/he tries to have both.

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Cheating will probably get you one hell of a strongly worded email. You might want to watch out for that :P


Just as long as there are no fights between the two LIs....


There could be. 

In Meghan's case, I think Kaidan would just be a bit pissed that Garrus knew about him and Shepard and ended up with her. Would it be a brawl? No, but Kaidan would be very justifiable in looking at Garrus and saying, "WTF, man?"


This actually raises an interesting question... How do you think that Kaidan should respond to a Shepard who hooked up with someone else in ME2, but then wants to get back together in ME3?

I think he'd be calm in the way he deals with it.  I don't see him as the type to get too angry, even over something like this. But I'm not convinced that he'd be willing to get together with Shepard again. Instead, I think there might be a rejection scene, kind of like what you have if you try to romance Samara in ME2.


i think he would understand that the new LI was there and he didnt. And he would respect whatever Shep's decision. But he wouldnt want to continue, only for respect of the new relationship and the choises Shep did. And for respect for himself.

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I've been working on a Miranda/Kaidan story. Would you guys be interested in a teaser excerpt?

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Yes, jtav! <3

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Yeah, I've seen quite a few people say this. Mostly more like "my new LI should be able to beat them up fpr betraying me!!"


um.... no. That's just ridiculous.


I've seen comments from people about wanting to kill the VS because of
Horizon. =/ Some people now dislike them because of Horizon, or maybe
just dislike them more. They don't understand why they were against
Shepard and wouldn't (blindly) follow them like the alien squadmates.


Oh, yes. Because my Shepherd wanted to be with someone who can't think for themselves and totally worships the ground they walk on. *feel the sarcasm* ;) But seriously, this is even more ridiculous. I'll assume that those are the people who are hoping Bioware put in some sort of  "catfight" betwem the two LIs. *sigh*

On another less tedious note, I can't wait to see Kaidan in the next game. <3 (If I had any Kaidan pics, I'd post one right now.lol)

edited for spelling! Doh!

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"That's quite enough, Ms. al-Jilani." The new voice was sharp and a little cold, the voice of someone who was accustomed to giving orders and having them followed without question. Al-Jilana and I both turned. My eyes nearly popped out of my head. I'm pretty sure that if Williams had been alive, she would've told me to put my tongue back in my mouth, too.

It wasn't every day that you saw a supermodel, even on the Citadel. The woman was wearing a dark business suit, but it seemed to accentuate her curves rather than hide them. Her hair was thick and dark, with a few strands falling in front of her face so artfully that it had to be deliberate. What struck me most were the eyes. Naturally blue eyes were all but extinct, and it was hard to pull off that mix of blue and gray even with tinting. I wondered how much it had cost her.

"Lieutenant Alenko has an urgent meeting to attend. Council business." And with that, she pulled me away from al-Jilani. I could see al-Jilani barely suppressing a smile. A gorgeous woman interrupting her interview? That was gold to people like her. I'd probably be engaged in a torrid affair with the mystery woman within twenty-four hours.

"So, is there really a meeting or are you just a good Samaritan?" I asked her when we were out of earshot. A gorgeous woman just happened to show up right when I needed rescuing from a reporter? My bull**** detector was going off.

She gave me a half-smile. She was enjoying knowing more than I did. "Oh, there's a meeting. Councilor Udina and Admiral Anderson want to speak with you. I'll let them tell you more."

"Can't you tell me?"

She shook her head. "Too risky. Every square centimeter of the wards is bugged. C-Sec can't actually catch anti-Council dissidents, but they've got to look like they're doing something."

I nodded. There was always the possibility that this was an elaborate set up, but I didn't think so. Whatever else you wanted to say about the new C-Sec—and I could say a lot of things—they were keeping petty crime under control. And, worse case scenario, I can do a pretty good job of taking care of myself. "I'll take that as a no. Of course, she was still dodging the question. "Can I get a name? ID would be great."

She sighed and pulled something from her pocket. The promised ID. Miranda Donovan. Alliance Intelligence Agency. Even her official picture looked good. I didn't know whether to relax or tense further. I was 98% sure they she was who she said she was. It was damn hard to fake official ID, and faking being AIA was a good way to end up dead. On the other hand, I wasn't really sure I want to know what Anderson and Udina wanted me for if AIA was involved. Most of what they did was vanilla analysis, but I've heard rumors of presidents assassinated, civil wars started, and various other things that are supposed to be the province of the STG. Something told me I hadn't attracted the attention of the analysis branch.

"Satisfied?" she asked.

A mysterious, if stunning, woman who could probably kill me in ten different ways was taking me to an impromptu meeting with the head of the Citadel Council. "I don't know if 'satisfied' is quite the word I'd be using, Agent Donovan."

She laughed a little at that, but the sound was harsh, like she wasn't used to doing it. "You're nervous. Good. Keeps you on your toes." She placed the ID back in her pocket. "You can call me Miranda." She looked at me out of the corner of her eye. "You would've been better off ignoring that reporter to begin with. Her kind is even less interested in the truth than most journalists and that's saying something."

"I, ah, figured that out a minute too late."

Miranda didn't respond. There was nothing left for me to do but enjoy the scenery, if you could call it enjoying. Zakera Ward has escaped major damage, but the rebuilding committee hadn't been able to resist a few changes. Gleaming new Avina and public extranet software. It was easier to install the monitoring software on the new machines. They said it was to help catch geth sympathizers, but you heard things, you know? There were a lot more C-Sec cops around than the first time I visited the Citadel. Mostly human. I counted a dozen uniformed officers the on the way to the elevators, along with who knew how many plainclothes cops. Zakera Ward was heavily multicultural. It would've been smarter to hire turian and asari to feel more of the vacancies. I'd told Anderson as much, but Udina wanted to make a statement.

Not that anybody was doing anything. There'd been three riots since Shepard's death, but mostly people were just scared and angry. It'd boil over someday. We couldn't run the galaxy by ourselves, not forever. And that was if the Reapers didn't kill us first. We should have been building bridges not... whatever the hell we were doing. Before Shepard died, Anderson had talked about reforming the Council with a seat for every Citadel race. Then Shepard died, Udina got the Council seat, and nobody except for war heroes like me were allowed to say we believed in Reapers.

We stepped into the elevator. Something must have shown on my face because Miranda said, "Somehow I doubt this is quite how Commander Shepard planned for things to go. I don't mean the dying. If it had been up to her, we'd all be building a fleet to combat the Reapers, not playing petty power games. The destruction of the old Council gave us a unique opportunity to act, and we're squandering it." She looked at me. Her eyes seemed to burn with some inner fire. At least I wasn't the only person pissed off about how things were going. "I sincerely hope that's about to change."



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Very interesting, Jtav. I'm assuming this is an a/u without Shepard? It'll be interesting getting them together :)

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fortunesque wrote...

Very interesting, Jtav. I'm assuming this is an a/u without Shepard? It'll be interesting getting them together :)


If it's not an alternate universe, the reunion scene on Horizon is going to be really awkward if Shep brings Miranda along.

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I like it so far, jtav. Are you going to post it on BSN or somewhere else?

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Define "without Shepard." Kaidan and Shepard had feelings for each other. Unforunately, Virmire provided a lesson in why fraternization is bad.

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jtav wrote...

Define "without Shepard." Kaidan and Shepard had feelings for each other.


What is the status of Shepard? Dead? Post-suicide mission dead? Cheated?

I'm probably not coming off clearly because of my sinus headache :/

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fort, see my edited post. Shepard is currently in the care of the Lazarus Project. Think of this as Galaxy with Kaidan instead of Jacob and a different mission.

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Speaking about Miranda and biotics (I've missed on the part of discussion I am interested in again. Damn) - does it sound as justified:

1. Miranda wasn't originally the biotic - her father felt no need in this 2)he decided on giving the daughter some kind of natural protection after assassination attempt - biotic abilities and hence possibility to create the barrier were chosen (and, as a side goal, the possibility to "engineer" biotic was investigated) 3) nodules should be introduced through surgery, and the operation was risky - that's why Oriana was created 4) the same configuration of nodules as Kaidan's was chosen because it's proven to give significant abilities and simultaneously be stable 5) operation went not at all good, Miranda suffered and decided to run away from father who did such things with her. She can't let this repeat with newborn because they already became rather close, so grabbed her and ran to the only organisation which was brave enough to oppose her father. Later Cerberus found a way how to deal with consequences of operation and living with the implant

That's my little explanation why Kaidan and Miranda are the most powerful human biotics from who doesn't have the neural degeneration (as you remember, Jack has this problem, but that doesn't affect her abilities)

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Selenora wrote...

i think he would understand that the new LI was there and he didnt. And he would respect whatever Shep's decision. But he wouldnt want to continue, only for respect of the new relationship and the choises Shep did. And for respect for himself.


Well, to him it has been two years and he doesn't seem to know what he wants regardless of Sheps feelings and doings. Plus he is already acting from the notion that it probably didn't mean as much to Shep as is did to him ("I thought we had something, I loved you"). I think he would bow out gracefully, if not still friendly (at least he didn't take rejection that well in ME1). And no, no chance to come back if you've chosen someone else. At least that's how I see him.

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www.youtube.com/watch

"Well well, you're a romantic!"

My new favorite maleShep line. :lol:

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Commander Kurt wrote...

Selenora wrote...

i think he would understand that the new LI was there and he didnt. And he would respect whatever Shep's decision. But he wouldnt want to continue, only for respect of the new relationship and the choises Shep did. And for respect for himself.


Well, to him it has been two years and he doesn't seem to know what he wants regardless of Sheps feelings and doings. Plus he is already acting from the notion that it probably didn't mean as much to Shep as is did to him ("I thought we had something, I loved you"). I think he would bow out gracefully, if not still friendly (at least he didn't take rejection that well in ME1). And no, no chance to come back if you've chosen someone else. At least that's how I see him.


I agree with that. I mean, it's been two years and suddenly the woman he loved -whom he thought was dead- pops out of no where. He clearly still loves Shepard, but he's confused. After all two years is a long time, that's why I didn't find the e-mail he sent stupid or hurried...it makes sense and is very in character. He's still confused, he doesn't know if Shepard still wants him back (she didn't really talk much during the Horizon reunion) and he's the guy who always leaves a way out.

I don't hate Horizon, it made sense to me in every way, but then again maybe that's just how I see it

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@MizzNaaa - My whole issue with Horizon was the writing of it.  It had potential to be a great scene but to me it just felt like just a cheesy plot device.

I haven't posted this in a long time here, but this sums up my feelings on the matter.

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Shenzi wrote...

@MizzNaaa - My whole issue with Horizon was the writing of it.  It had potential to be a great scene but to me it just felt like just a cheesy plot device.

I haven't posted this in a long time here, but this sums up my feelings on the matter.

/Shepard derp snip


While I do think Kaidan's emotional reaction made sense, I do agree with this.  Shepard's dialogue especially just... SO CRINGEWORTHY.

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The prologue to the Kaidan/Miranda story is up.

Devil On My Shoulder
Summary: Kaidan teams up with a mysterious Alliance operative to continue the fight against the Reapers, but may have bitten off more than he can chew. Especially when that agent is Miranda and the Reapers have a plan of their own.

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I kind of wonder if Shepard did it all on purpose to push Kaidan away for whatever reason. Or at least she understands that despite it being only a few weeks to her, it's been years for him. It would have been kind of dickish for her to waltz up after 2 years dead and demand him back at her side.

It hurts, it might not be what we want, but maybe its the best option for them at the moment. Imagine if they had got together again before Shepard goes through the omega-4 relay and she had died yet again. Even she believed it was a suicide mission. Kaidan probably wouldn't survive losing her a second time.

Besides, I think there is a lot of plot to Horizon that we don't fully understand yet. Shepard is only getting TIM's side to everything. He stonewalls her at every turn, if not down right lies to her.

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jtav wrote...

The prologue to the Kaidan/Miranda story is up.

Devil On My Shoulder
Summary: Kaidan teams up with a mysterious Alliance operative to continue the fight against the Reapers, but may have bitten off more than he can chew. Especially when that agent is Miranda and the Reapers have a plan of their own.


This made me think of something. If Shepard didn't romance Miranda or Kaidan, how would Kaidan fans feel if the two of them got together in ME3. Sure, the Cerberus connection might make things start off on the wrong foot, but the two of them are close in age and Kaidan is probably the kind of guy who could melt the ice queen Miranda's heart if the two of them spent time together. And if Shepard severed Jacob and Miranda's connection to Cerberus after the Suicide Mission, the Cerberus issue suddenly becomes a lot less of an issue. Thoughts?

I kind of like the idea of non-romanced squadmates pairing off with each other as appropriate. Like Kasumi and Jacob, Ashley and Jacob, Liara and Kaidan, or Liara and Garrus even. Some characters probably wouldn't get involved in romances, like Samara, Zaeed, and Grunt, and a prickly pear like Jack might be a little more difficult to find an appropriate mate for, but you get the general idea.

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Melindil wrote...

Shenzi wrote...

@MizzNaaa - My whole issue with Horizon was the writing of it.  It had potential to be a great scene but to me it just felt like just a cheesy plot device.

I haven't posted this in a long time here, but this sums up my feelings on the matter.

/Shepard derp snip


While I do think Kaidan's emotional reaction made sense, I do agree with this.  Shepard's dialogue especially just... SO CRINGEWORTHY.


 I know what you mean, Shepard's lines were 'CRINGEWORTHY' LOL but yeah, I'm mainly focusing on Kaidan's lines :)

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meonlyred wrote...

I kind of wonder if Shepard did it all on purpose to push Kaidan away for whatever reason. Or at least she understands that despite it being only a few weeks to her, it's been years for him. It would have been kind of dickish for her to waltz up after 2 years dead and demand him back at her side.

It hurts, it might not be what we want, but maybe its the best option for them at the moment. Imagine if they had got together again before Shepard goes through the omega-4 relay and she had died yet again. Even she believed it was a suicide mission. Kaidan probably wouldn't survive losing her a second time.

Besides, I think there is a lot of plot to Horizon that we don't fully understand yet. Shepard is only getting TIM's side to everything. He stonewalls her at every turn, if not down right lies to her.


It's a good theory. This might be the case, especially with the suicide mission. Plus, yes it's been two years, maybe she thought he already moved on..actually, she did "You moved on, I didn't want to reopen old wounds..." And it also might be because of her connections to Cerberus...and TIM stonewalling her every other moment.

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Siansonea II wrote...

jtav wrote...

The prologue to the Kaidan/Miranda story is up.

Devil On My Shoulder
Summary: Kaidan teams up with a mysterious Alliance operative to continue the fight against the Reapers, but may have bitten off more than he can chew. Especially when that agent is Miranda and the Reapers have a plan of their own.


This made me think of something. If Shepard didn't romance Miranda or Kaidan, how would Kaidan fans feel if the two of them got together in ME3. Sure, the Cerberus connection might make things start off on the wrong foot, but the two of them are close in age and Kaidan is probably the kind of guy who could melt the ice queen Miranda's heart if the two of them spent time together. And if Shepard severed Jacob and Miranda's connection to Cerberus after the Suicide Mission, the Cerberus issue suddenly becomes a lot less of an issue. Thoughts?

I kind of like the idea of non-romanced squadmates pairing off with each other as appropriate. Like Kasumi and Jacob, Ashley and Jacob, Liara and Kaidan, or Liara and Garrus even. Some characters probably wouldn't get involved in romances, like Samara, Zaeed, and Grunt, and a prickly pear like Jack might be a little more difficult to find an appropriate mate for, but you get the general idea.


I kind of hope this to, then again I'm a hopless romantic and want everyone to find their soul mates and live happily ever after. The pair I really want to see is Tali and Kal'reegar. A friend of mine was JUST talking about this and how aborable it would be to have a baby quarian running *ahem* rolling around the Normandy in a little bubble.

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Siansonea II wrote...

jtav wrote...

The prologue to the Kaidan/Miranda story is up.

Devil On My Shoulder
Summary: Kaidan teams up with a mysterious Alliance operative to continue the fight against the Reapers, but may have bitten off more than he can chew. Especially when that agent is Miranda and the Reapers have a plan of their own.


This made me think of something. If Shepard didn't romance Miranda or Kaidan, how would Kaidan fans feel if the two of them got together in ME3. Sure, the Cerberus connection might make things start off on the wrong foot, but the two of them are close in age and Kaidan is probably the kind of guy who could melt the ice queen Miranda's heart if the two of them spent time together. And if Shepard severed Jacob and Miranda's connection to Cerberus after the Suicide Mission, the Cerberus issue suddenly becomes a lot less of an issue. Thoughts?

I kind of like the idea of non-romanced squadmates pairing off with each other as appropriate. Like Kasumi and Jacob, Ashley and Jacob, Liara and Kaidan, or Liara and Garrus even. Some characters probably wouldn't get involved in romances, like Samara, Zaeed, and Grunt, and a prickly pear like Jack might be a little more difficult to find an appropriate mate for, but you get the general idea.


I would love Miranda and Kaidan together, and maybe Kaidan and Liara. Kaidan's one of those great guys that I'd love to see with someone.