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Kaidan's a full Commander in ME2. Someone please correct me, but isn't it a bit unusual to be promoted twice in two years? I wonder what the story is there. Joker and Chakwas were Reassigned to Antarctica, but Kaidan seems to be doing well for himself.

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For one thing the mission Kaidan on itself was unusual. Saving the Citadel isn't a typical kind of thing.

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jtav wrote...

Kaidan's a full Commander in ME2. Someone please correct me, but isn't it a bit unusual to be promoted twice in two years? I wonder what the story is there. Joker and Chakwas were Reassigned to Antarctica, but Kaidan seems to be doing well for himself.


I figure Kaidan for the type to throw himself into his work while he's grieving.  Rather than think about Shepard, he'd work himself to death instead and earn a few ranks in the process.

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Kaidan has been working for Anderson, the first human to sit on the Citadel Council. Especially given the kind sensitive, high risk missions that Anderson likely hands out, I imagine that looks good when the Alliance higher ups decide to do their scheduled evaluations.

Unless you're Ash... In which case, you still get held back a bit, maybe because of your family history and maybe because of your tendancy to, well... speak your mind

Modifié par DWH1982, 06 janvier 2011 - 03:24 .


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Indeed, but Joker killed Sovereign and got grounded. I attribute it to Kaidan's better control of his emotions. He's not going to defend Shepard for the sake of defending her. He won't lie, but I imagine he;s been circumspect for the last two years. He knows he can do more good as an officer and refuses to martyr himself.

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*de-lurks*



I think Kaidan was also older when he joined the Alliance, so it makes sense to me that he was promoted a little more quickly, even though he hadn't necessarily 'done the time.' All that RL experience should count for something. And being part of the team that brought down Saren had to have played a part as well.



Or, maybe the promotions were an attempt to shut him up? Get him to a point where you can just send him on random solo missions or hide him behind a desk?



*re-lurks*

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 Did anyone else feel a sense of satisfaction watching Lilith being turned into a smoothie? I was like, "oh no i better get you ou-- oh its you..." *watches her die* 


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Sashimi_taco wrote...

 Did anyone else feel a sense of satisfaction watching Lilith being turned into a smoothie? I was like, "oh no i better get you ou-- oh its you..." *watches her die* 


Yeah. I think it's safe to say that a certain level of satisfaction at seeing Lilith dissolve has been expressed here.

I've never understood it, myself. If Lilith was interested in Kaidan, she's also interested in Ash in playthroughs where she's the VS - because she gives Ash the exact same look.

Given what Kaidan fans are like, I just hope that Yoeman Chambers NEVER dares to express interest in Kaidan when he comes on to the ship. Image IPB

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Sashimi_taco wrote...

 Did anyone else feel a sense of satisfaction watching Lilith being turned into a smoothie? I was like, "oh no i better get you ou-- oh its you..." *watches her die* 


I'm I the only one who really felt bad for her? I think she is just a place filler so Kaidan isn't talking to himself. Besides, would any of us not also be eyeing the hell out of Kaidan? I know there are a few who think she might have been the Doctor Kaidan mentioned in his letter. If that is the case then I feel horrible for Kaidan, every woman he has been involed with either shuns him or dies horribly. Poor guy can't get a break when it comes to the ladies.

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I haven't got much further than the collector base so far, due to a malfunctioning 360, but I felt sorry for the ones who got taken from horizon.

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It is interesting that Kaidan was promoted twice and Ash was promoted once. I do wonder if it was a dev error to do this.



The difference between Joker getting grounded and Kaidan getting promoted boils down to following orders. Evac was underway and Shepard ordered Kaidan to go. He went. Joker refused to leave until Shepard gave him a tongue lashing.



Kaidan's also gotten 12 special commendations by the time ME1 starts. It seems like he's definitely one to work extra hard so the double promotion could easily be explained.

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Re- Lilith-



I'll admit that when I first saw her, I totally thought she was eying him up. Despite this, I knew that she wouldn't stand a chance if Shep was there so I didn't worry.



Lilith smoothies have been kind of a joke around here tbh. I don't think we're that serious about celebrating her being melted into a puddle of collector smoothie.

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Do we know WHEN Kaidan and Ash got their promotions?  It seems like saving the Citadel and stopping Saren would be worth one.  That could explain why Ash only got one promotion while Kaidan got 2.  After the excitement died down, things went back to normal... "normal" being that Kaidan is well-respected and already has tons of special commendations, while Ash is usually ignored by the Alliance at best.  Thus, Kaidan ended up picking up another promotion while Shepard was dead, while Ash didn't.

I felt bad for Lilith.  The first time I played ME2 I had some squirming feelings of "HEY, leave him alone you... you HUSSY!" but then I chilled out and realized that even *IF* she was a single woman interested in Kaidan, she would have no hope of snaring him once Shep re-entered Kaidan's life.

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I always assumed Lilith was involved with Garage guy (can't recall his name) - he's very upset she's missing and mentions her by name.

To be fair to her -she's female and breathing so, how she could help giving Kaidan the eye? ;-)

Modifié par Avilia, 06 janvier 2011 - 04:18 .


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Lilith seemed like a waste to me. They seemed to want the player to care about her or feel "sorry" for her, or her to be the "face" of the colonists, but...you never even interact with her. I never cared about Lilith.

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Avilia wrote...

I always assumed Lilith was involved with Garage guy (can't recall his name) - he's very upset she's missing and mentions her by name.

To be fair to her -she's female and breathing so, how she could help giving Kaidan the eye? ;-)


Especially if she's involved with - ugh - garage guy.

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I would have given anything if there had been a renegade interrupt to punch Delan (the garage guy) in the mouth when he says the "of all the good people we lost" thing to Kaidan.

Modifié par meonlyred, 06 janvier 2011 - 04:33 .


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For you wonderful talented people here is a really nice outfit that would look great on Kaidan.

It's the third one down. http://in.88db.com/d... Casual Wear/1/

Now when he's not in the buff in our cabin then this is might work as sleepwear (Yeah like he's going to be getting a lot of sleep when we get him back) http://www.cosplayfu...rom Gundam Seed

If the jacket was closed up this would look really nice.

http://www.cosplayfu...rom Gundam Seed

Look down to the Livery one on this page.

http://www.sharonlat...rage/livery.jpg

Now here is an idea for you talented people how about a 2011 calendar of Kaidan?

http://www.buy-calen.../466686343.html OR http://www.calendars...endar-172d.html




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I'm wondering where the info on how many times they have been promoted comes from? I know Kaiden is commander now, what's Ash? Kaiden was a higher rank than Ashley in ME1 so is it not just the case that they've both had equal promotions, maintaining this difference of rank that already existed?



anyway, I really hope that he is on the team for ME3...

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meonlyred wrote...

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I would have given anything if there had been a renegade interrupt to punch Delan (the garage guy) in the mouth when he says the "of all the good people we lost" thing to Kaidan.


I already disliked Delan when Shepard first met him but that was definitely the last straw.

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meonlyred wrote...

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I would have given anything if there had been a renegade interrupt to punch Delan (the garage guy) in the mouth when he says the "of all the good people we lost" thing to Kaidan.


Now I think of it - if Lilith is involved with garage guy, and she is giving Kaidan the eye, then he's speaking out of jealousy.  He has no other reason for being so snide imho.  I won't feel so bad about imagining him flying through the air due to accidental discharge of throw now :innocent:

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wildannie wrote...

I'm wondering where the info on how many times they have been promoted comes from? I know Kaiden is commander now, what's Ash? Kaiden was a higher rank than Ashley in ME1 so is it not just the case that they've both had equal promotions, maintaining this difference of rank that already existed?

anyway, I really hope that he is on the team for ME3...


The info about the promotions is based on the in game codex entry on military ranks (a copy can be found here masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Codex/Humanity_and_the_Systems_Alliance about halfway down the page). in the first game, Kaidan was a Staff Lieutenant and by ME2 he was a Staff Commander which according to the codex is 2 ranks up whereas Ashley was a Gunnery Chief in ME1 and an Operations Chief in ME2 which is only 1 rank higher.

and we all hope he's on the team in ME3 :lol:

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Batteries wrote...

I dig the ones in orange and totally not because orange is my favorite color.
Both remind me of a racing outfit a bit.

Jacob's redesigndidn't strike me as much since I never played Galaxy. I only saw what he looked like there close to ME2 release to after release...one or the other.

Reaver well.. ahh... went from this to ....what is this i don't even

I don't know what to say.

Reaver is slowly morphing into Stephen Fry.......................... Resistance is futile................ ;) I would go so far as to say he is ''ASSUMING............ Well, you know! :D
ETA - I felt bad for Lilith, I would have liked to save her, that way IF she did have feelings for Kaidan I could b*tch slap her....................... Not really, but still! Anyway, I doubt the feelings were returned even so.

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meonlyred wrote...

Sashimi_taco wrote...

 Did anyone else feel a sense of satisfaction watching Lilith being turned into a smoothie? I was like, "oh no i better get you ou-- oh its you..." *watches her die* 


I'm I the only one who really felt bad for her?

Nope, definitely not. I can't stand to see/hear people suffer like that. I always skip that scene; watched it once, gave me nightmares, never watched it again.

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Jenova65 wrote...

Batteries wrote...

I dig the ones in orange and totally not because orange is my favorite color.
Both remind me of a racing outfit a bit.

Jacob's redesigndidn't strike me as much since I never played Galaxy. I only saw what he looked like there close to ME2 release to after release...one or the other.

Reaver well.. ahh... went from this to ....what is this i don't even

I don't know what to say.

Reaver is slowly morphing into Stephen Fry.......................... Resistance is futile................ ;) I would go so far as to say he is ''ASSUMING............ Well, you know! :D
ETA - I felt bad for Lilith, I would have liked to save her, that way IF she did have feelings for Kaidan I could b*tch slap her....................... Not really, but still! Anyway, I doubt the feelings were returned even so.


I think I'm getting used to it now, it was just a bit of an eye popper when I first saw it. :o
I see what people meant about the "heart" shape now too. Ironic to me. :lol:


Lilith dying didn't really faze me much. Didn't like watching someine turn into goo yeah, but it didn't last past the point she was gone. Then it was more like "FUUUU YOU RUINED MY AHCEIVEMENT JACOB".