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Rawrgh, keeping up with this thread is an uphill battle! So, apologies if I draw up topics you've already passed by and buried.

Anyhow, on Carth Onasi; somehow the thing that really endeared me to him was some of the dialogue you could have with him - notably how you could just run verbal circles around his head until he was adorably befuddled, and then shouting insults at him. I realize this might reflect badly on me, but those dialogues were pretty much what first "made" Carth for me.

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I think if either Ash or Kaidan switch teams in ME3, I'd like Shepard to say something like, "I saved you on Virmire because I love you. PS: I'm so gay."

I actually have a friend who has repeatedly expressed that she wishes Ash were into women as that'd be her preferred love interest for Mass Effect 1. Just as an amusing aside.

Now on Kaidan, and I don't recall to what extents this has been rambled before so I'll just run with it, the thing that really struck me with him is that he seems to be the only team member in Mass Effect 1 that's.. well.. looking out for you, specifically? I mean, Garrus, Wrex and Tali all talk of themselves and their own people because you ask them to, and in a manner because there are things they seem to be hoping you can help them with. Liara seem to be mostly just starstruck, and I admit my experiences with Ash are.. limited.. due to her generally succumbing to an unfortunate and terminal case of death.. (don't get me wrong, I like Ash. I just like Kaidan more. ahem)

Kaidan, by contrast, tells you about his past to illustrate a point because he doesn't want you to paint yourself into a corner. He's.. well.. there, and isn't about how you can help him but how he can help you. He doesn't tell you about how Brain Camp was terrible because he's emo about it but because he's over it. He has a very "It was bad at the time, but I got better." sort of vibe to him, which I really like.

Among all these people who try to help you take down Saren, Kaidan seems to be the only one intent on making sure you don't suffer for the trying. I'm aware I'm probably just preaching the choir here, not to mention the choir takes turns doing the same preaching, but having recently replayed Mass Effect 1 to change my main Shepard (hereby called "Kate") from a colonist to a spacer because I couldn't picture her growing up as a farmer, I found myself doing a fair bit of thinking what exactly Kaidan represents to her with the experience.

Both Doctor Chakwas and Tali'Zorah seem to suggest that Shepard is something of an immovable center, a sort of shelter from the storm that people can cling to; heck, the game seems to suggest that with how some people seem outright betrayed that she had the gall to die on them. With that in mind, Kaidan struck me as a tether - someone that helps keep her anchored, even after what he said on Horizon.

One thing that strikes me is that the love interests in Mass Effect seemed to have a more deeply rooted place in the story compared to the ones in Mass Effect 2, especially considering the scene when the Normandy is grounded. I'm actually really curious what turns things will take in Mass Effect 3 and what they'll do regarding Horizon. All signs point to Kaidan/Ashley holding a key role somewhere, and if they also carry over as love interest.. I can't see that not ending up a significant element of it.

I'm also not sure what I'd like to see the most - Shepard pulling Kaidan out of the fire (again) or Kaidan returning the favor.. both have the potential to cause significant glee. I'd love to able to yell something like "you don't think I haven't missed you too?!" or something at him regarding Horizon, but hey.

And I just noted that not only does Opera's spell checker mark Kaidan as a misspelled word but also suggests "Giordano" as a possible alternative..????? What the heck, Opera!

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Eek I come back to creepy animated Kaidan! Thanks for the suggestions, not sure I wanna tinker with the xbox personally since I'm as tech as a sack of potatoes but the bf might wanna look into it.



Lovely post Nhani, you know I think I'll like hearing Shepard shout at Kaidan in frustration. Loved the shouting she did on the Liara mission in ME1, when escaping those ruins, added a lot to the scene imo :)



Ah, so many things we can think of for ME3, I just hope that what Bioware comes up with will satisfy our 'needs' and give closure.

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  Hopefully mine will get an upgrade before ME3 - luckily my 17 yr old is a computer whizz/nerd so he can build me one if I buy the parts, that way I get exactly what I want. 


You are lucky.

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Nhani wrote...


Now on Kaidan, and I don't recall to what extents this has been rambled before so I'll just run with it, the thing that really struck me with him is that he seems to be the only team member in Mass Effect 1 that's.. well.. looking out for you, specifically? I mean, Garrus, Wrex and Tali all talk of themselves and their own people because you ask them to, and in a manner because there are things they seem to be hoping you can help them with. Liara seem to be mostly just starstruck, and I admit my experiences with Ash are.. limited.. due to her generally succumbing to an unfortunate and terminal case of death.. (don't get me wrong, I like Ash. I just like Kaidan more. ahem)

Kaidan, by contrast, tells you about his past to illustrate a point because he doesn't want you to paint yourself into a corner. He's.. well.. there, and isn't about how you can help him but how he can help you. He doesn't tell you about how Brain Camp was terrible because he's emo about it but because he's over it. He has a very "It was bad at the time, but I got better." sort of vibe to him, which I really like.

Among all these people who try to help you take down Saren, Kaidan seems to be the only one intent on making sure you don't suffer for the trying. I'm aware I'm probably just preaching the choir here, not to mention the choir takes turns doing the same preaching, but having recently replayed Mass Effect 1 to change my main Shepard (hereby called "Kate") from a colonist to a spacer because I couldn't picture her growing up as a farmer, I found myself doing a fair bit of thinking what exactly Kaidan represents to her with the experience.

Both Doctor Chakwas and Tali'Zorah seem to suggest that Shepard is something of an immovable center, a sort of shelter from the storm that people can cling to; heck, the game seems to suggest that with how some people seem outright betrayed that she had the gall to die on them. With that in mind, Kaidan struck me as a tether - someone that helps keep her anchored, even after what he said on Horizon.


Really good point...and choir or not I don't think I ever remember seeing it that way...but you're right...Kaidan does seem to be the only one looking out for Shep while everyone else seems to look out for themselves or look to Shep to be their answer.

And I do wonder if the Devs don't consider Kaidan/Ash/Liara to be the main LI's over the trilogy whereas the ME2 and the ME3's(to come) may just be distractions. If they actually consider the ME2 LI's to be of the same quality as the ME LI's I kinda think that maybe they have lost it. The relationships in ME2(the ones I've seen on youtube) just seem shallow in comparison to the ME ones(and I include Liara and Ash in that although I think Kaidan's was the best).

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Beautifully said Nhani, you've put a lot of my thoughts into words, which I have issues doing sometimes! He he thank you. :)



That's really how I feel about how Shepard feels toward Kaidan, reluctant to let too much of her feelings apparent because she knows how much people depend on her, but she can't help but rely on him because he's her center.

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You guys are great...such lovely wording..makes me miss Kai Kai.

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Claps, Nahl it is true that Kaidan is the only one that seems to be looking out for you, but the others are in it for themselves.

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Jhosephine wrote...

Eek I come back to creepy animated Kaidan! Thanks for the suggestions, not sure I wanna tinker with the xbox personally since I'm as tech as a sack of potatoes but the bf might wanna look into it.

Lovely post Nhani, you know I think I'll like hearing Shepard shout at Kaidan in frustration. Loved the shouting she did on the Liara mission in ME1, when escaping those ruins, added a lot to the scene imo :)

Ah, so many things we can think of for ME3, I just hope that what Bioware comes up with will satisfy our 'needs' and give closure.


If you open your xbox just know it voids any warranty that may still be in place.  I would call Microsoft.  We have had to send in two different xbox consoles for red ring and one for a bad disk drive.  The extended warranty covered the red ring and they all returned quickly with a new one year warranty in place and a card for 1 free month of gold membership.

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Nahni- I love the idea that our strong, brave FemShep needs someone to lean on as well from time to time. That is probably why the locker scene in ME1 is my favorite scene in either ME1 or ME2.

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Mrs Templar wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Eek I come back to creepy animated Kaidan! Thanks for the suggestions, not sure I wanna tinker with the xbox personally since I'm as tech as a sack of potatoes but the bf might wanna look into it.

Lovely post Nhani, you know I think I'll like hearing Shepard shout at Kaidan in frustration. Loved the shouting she did on the Liara mission in ME1, when escaping those ruins, added a lot to the scene imo :)

Ah, so many things we can think of for ME3, I just hope that what Bioware comes up with will satisfy our 'needs' and give closure.


If you open your xbox just know it voids any warranty that may still be in place.  I would call Microsoft.  We have had to send in two different xbox consoles for red ring and one for a bad disk drive.  The extended warranty covered the red ring and they all returned quickly with a new one year warranty in place and a card for 1 free month of gold membership.

I notice with a lot of people's dead XBoXs, they never dusted them

Everyone in efforts to keep everyone's Kaidan from being burned in a red ring of death, please keep a can of air next to your XBOX and use it regularly.  You see, an XBOX is essentially, a computer.  A computer's native environment is 0 degress Kelvin, where superconduction allows it to run at optimum efficiency.   However, in order for us to enjoy Kai Kai goodness, the XBOX has had to adapt to a newer, warmer environment.  And adapt it has.  However, continuous build up of dust blocks the air flow its adaptive fans create to cool the XBOX in the human habitat.  Thus frequent dusting is essential the health and well being of your xbox.It much less hassel than having to get your XBOX replaced.

This PSA was brought to you by KAAS.

And good morning everyone.  Yeah, I know it's late.

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Mrs Templar wrote...

Nahni- I love the idea that our strong, brave FemShep needs someone to lean on as well from time to time. That is probably why the locker scene in ME1 is my favorite scene in either ME1 or ME2.

What she said.

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@Nhani - beautifully put. I think you've pretty much summed up why we all love Kaidan.

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chem light wrote...

*giggles maniacally*

Yeah, I would be heading the protest march to Canada.


Want some company?  I'd be right with you.

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chem light wrote...

Mrs Templar wrote...

Nahni- I love the idea that our strong, brave FemShep needs someone to lean on as well from time to time. That is probably why the locker scene in ME1 is my favorite scene in either ME1 or ME2.

What she said.


This x100!  I also kind of liked the scene right before you start the suicide mission where Shepard is looking at Kaidan's picture because you just know she's remembering Ilos and wishing he was there to lean on right then.

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Good morning everyone!



I'll admit that I planned on waking up 2 hours later, but my neighbors above assured that I'd be awake now.

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I just noiced... The ash thread is 50 pages longer then this...

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saying hi from the ashley thread! bring kaidan back!

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Hello Ash fan :)



I love Ash. I wish I could have left someone other than her with the team... What an awesome gal.

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fortunesque wrote...

Good morning everyone!

I'll admit that I planned on waking up 2 hours later, but my neighbors above assured that I'd be awake now.


Good morning to you too :)  Skating lessons guaranteed I was up a good 4 hours ago.

By the way, can anyone help me with getting one of those pretty signature bars in my signature?

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chem light wrote...

Mrs Templar wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Eek I come back to creepy animated Kaidan! Thanks for the suggestions, not sure I wanna tinker with the xbox personally since I'm as tech as a sack of potatoes but the bf might wanna look into it.

Lovely post Nhani, you know I think I'll like hearing Shepard shout at Kaidan in frustration. Loved the shouting she did on the Liara mission in ME1, when escaping those ruins, added a lot to the scene imo :)

Ah, so many things we can think of for ME3, I just hope that what Bioware comes up with will satisfy our 'needs' and give closure.


If you open your xbox just know it voids any warranty that may still be in place.  I would call Microsoft.  We have had to send in two different xbox consoles for red ring and one for a bad disk drive.  The extended warranty covered the red ring and they all returned quickly with a new one year warranty in place and a card for 1 free month of gold membership.

I notice with a lot of people's dead XBoXs, they never dusted them

Everyone in efforts to keep everyone's Kaidan from being burned in a red ring of death, please keep a can of air next to your XBOX and use it regularly.  You see, an XBOX is essentially, a computer.  A computer's native environment is 0 degress Kelvin, where superconduction allows it to run at optimum efficiency.   However, in order for us to enjoy Kai Kai goodness, the XBOX has had to adapt to a newer, warmer environment.  And adapt it has.  However, continuous build up of dust blocks the air flow its adaptive fans create to cool the XBOX in the human habitat.  Thus frequent dusting is essential the health and well being of your xbox.It much less hassel than having to get your XBOX replaced.

This PSA was brought to you by KAAS.

And good morning everyone.  Yeah, I know it's late.


LOL I was thinking it sounded like a PSA while I was reading it and then you add that at the end. 

And on your pink armor issue...I was thinking that if Bioware might have put the Kaidan pic on Anderson's desk as a joke(since it's there even if Kai Kai died on Virmire) that they might have also left that armor on there as a joke. 

Of course I had been thinking along the lines of them shouting out to the Kaidan haters with the line Kaidan uses with Lilith about everybody hating him and the guy who gets mad because Kaidan survived and Lilith was taken(a shout out to those who wanted to kill Kaidan on Virmire every time).

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Joisan wrote...

chem light wrote...

Mrs Templar wrote...

Nahni- I love the idea that our strong, brave FemShep needs someone to lean on as well from time to time. That is probably why the locker scene in ME1 is my favorite scene in either ME1 or ME2.

What she said.


This x100!  I also kind of liked the scene right before you start the suicide mission where Shepard is looking at Kaidan's picture because you just know she's remembering Ilos and wishing he was there to lean on right then.


Yeah, If he makes her feel like she can take on the whole galaxy then she really is looking to him for support. That's the reason I don't get the people that think Shep is unflappable. I guess I get that it's role playing but if you choose to pursue the relationship with Kaidan especially playing paragon she pretty much admits that she needs him. I mean the choice itself seems to define the role your playing.

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No, if Ash is saved, the colonists will resent her. She and Kaidan's lines are virtually interchangeable.

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Biotic_Warlock wrote...

I just noiced... The ash thread is 50 pages longer then this...


I'm not sure...I don't think that the Ash thread was shut down the other day. Can't go by the length of the thread anyway...you have to look at the date it was started. The Tali thread was re-started the same day ours was and it's already over 100 pages.

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And mordin's thread is 4 pages long -_-

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