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Aww!  I want something like this for my desktop background.

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The moment my xbox is either fixed or replaced, I'm going to make sure I get that hug shot for myself. Finally found the darn cam cable so I can transfer pics to my pc! I am so making that my desktop too, to comfort me during my angst moments ;)

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The moment my xbox is either fixed or replaced, I'm going to make sure I get that hug shot for myself. Finally found the darn cam cable so I can transfer pics to my pc! I am so making that my desktop too, to comfort me during my angst moments ;)


Nice :)  Yeah, I can think of a few angst moments where I would have liked to have a picture like that as my desktop background.  Kaidan love is the cure for everything  Posted Image

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Joisan wrote...

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Aww!  I want something like this for my desktop background.

And by the way, your signature rocks Posted Image


Haha...Thanx. :D  It was one of the sillier nights on the Kaidan thread when I came up with that.  Feel free to steal.  

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Are we still talking about what kind of food the Kai Kai would like.



I could see him as one of those, breakfast at all hours of the day and night types. I could defiantly see him and vanguard Shep putting down a lot of eggs, bacon, sausage, waffles, syrup, hashbrowns, all the meanwhile the manager at Denny's start's to freak out because he didn't take biotics into consideration when advertising all you can eat.

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chem light wrote...

Are we still talking about what kind of food the Kai Kai would like.

I could see him as one of those, breakfast at all hours of the day and night types. I could defiantly see him and vanguard Shep putting down a lot of eggs, bacon, sausage, waffles, syrup, hashbrowns, all the meanwhile the manager at Denny's start's to freak out because he didn't take biotics into consideration when advertising all you can eat.


Posted Image  Anyone else think that would be a great fic idea?  Actually, I might incorporate it into my post-ME2 reunion fic that I'm planning to write once I finish editing my Horizon fic.

I myself see Kaidan as a steak and baked potato kind of guy.  I think because he strikes me as being very down to earth, not the sort to have particularly exotic tastes.  Though being a biotic and a military man, I suspect he'd wolf down just about anything if he was hungry.

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chem light wrote...

Are we still talking about what kind of food the Kai Kai would like.

I could see him as one of those, breakfast at all hours of the day and night types. I could defiantly see him and vanguard Shep putting down a lot of eggs, bacon, sausage, waffles, syrup, hashbrowns, all the meanwhile the manager at Denny's start's to freak out because he didn't take biotics into consideration when advertising all you can eat.


This. I actually have it in one of my incomplete fluffy fanfics where Aki (Shepard) and Kaidan are talking about food and I gave Kaidan the line “Well...I sometimes miss a real breakfast, y’know? At least two eggs, bacon, sausages, and a big pile of pancakes with maple syrup.” I totally see him demolishing breakfast.

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Joisan wrote...

chem light wrote...

Are we still talking about what kind of food the Kai Kai would like.

I could see him as one of those, breakfast at all hours of the day and night types. I could defiantly see him and vanguard Shep putting down a lot of eggs, bacon, sausage, waffles, syrup, hashbrowns, all the meanwhile the manager at Denny's start's to freak out because he didn't take biotics into consideration when advertising all you can eat.


Posted Image  Anyone else think that would be a great fic idea?

I myself see Kaidan as a steak and baked potato kind of guy.  Though being a biotic and a military man, I suspect he'd wolf down just about anything if he was hungry.


Haha...and they could always just walk around running barrier if they needed to make room.  Seriously, you want it? Take it. I'm backed up with a couple fics I've been playing with and I swore up and down my next one would not be fluff.  I like to stick to my stong suits, which is sarcasm and one liners.

You should totally have them destroy a chinese buffet while your at it. 

Hehehe*has flash backs to post race attacks on local resteraunts*

I love being a runner.

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Haha...and they could always just walk around running barrier if they needed to make room.  Seriously, you want it? Take it. I'm backed up with a couple fics I've been playing with and I swore up and down my next one would not be fluff.  I like to stick to my stong suits, which is sarcasm and one liners.

You should totally have them destroy a chinese buffet while your at it. 

Hehehe*has flash backs to post race attacks on local resteraunts*

I love being a runner.


Read my edited post... I do plan to incorporate demolishing a late-night breakfast at Denny's into my next fic.  And I'll see if I can work in a chinese buffet as well.

You're a runner?  What kind of races did you run?  Both my older brothers were runners but it never really took on me... I am a very very slow runner.  Swimming is more my forte.

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hmmmm....almost halfway to lockdown length...at this rate we'll be on Kaidan thread part 3

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Joisan wrote...

chem light wrote...
Haha...and they could always just walk around running barrier if they needed to make room.  Seriously, you want it? Take it. I'm backed up with a couple fics I've been playing with and I swore up and down my next one would not be fluff.  I like to stick to my stong suits, which is sarcasm and one liners.

You should totally have them destroy a chinese buffet while your at it. 

Hehehe*has flash backs to post race attacks on local resteraunts*

I love being a runner.


Read my edited post... I do plan to incorporate demolishing a late-night breakfast at Denny's into my next fic.  And I'll see if I can work in a chinese buffet as well.

You're a runner?  What kind of races did you run?  Both my older brothers were runners but it never really took on me... I am a very very slow runner.  Swimming is more my forte.


Haha..yes.  I do a lot of shorter races, like half marathons.  I'm kind of cursed when it comes to marathons.  Everytime I get up to like mile 14, 16 on my long runs working up to it...  Something happens.  Once my job sent me overseas.  Another time I completely destroyed my knee and spent the next year in physical therapy. I've once again signed up for one and am kinda living in terror as to what's going to happen this year.  I would be the fifth year in a row something ridiculous happened.  

Swimming?  I did it when I had to cause I was hurt.  And throw it into my workouts when the bad knee starts to get vociferous.  But mostly I avoid the water.  Chem ligh does NOT enjoy being amphibious.  :?

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chem light wrote...

Haha..yes.  I do a lot of shorter races, like half marathons.  I'm kind of cursed when it comes to marathons.  Everytime I get up to like mile 14, 16 on my long runs working up to it...  Something happens.  Once my job sent me overseas.  Another time I completely destroyed my knee and spent the next year in physical therapy. I've once again signed up for one and am kinda living in terror as to what's going to happen this year.  I would be the fifth year in a row something ridiculous happened.  

Swimming?  I did it when I had to cause I was hurt.  And throw it into my workouts when the bad knee starts to get vociferous.  But mostly I avoid the water.  Chem ligh does NOT enjoy being amphibious.  :?


Good luck with that.  You're probably the first person I've heard describe a half-marathon as a "shorter race" Posted Image

To try to bring this discussion at least sort of on topic, what sort of exercise do you think Kaidan would enjoy?  I could actually see him as somebody who runs to keep in shape.  Also, I imagine him having played ice hockey in his youth before getting sent off to BAaT

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Joisan wrote...

chem light wrote...

Haha..yes.  I do a lot of shorter races, like half marathons.  I'm kind of cursed when it comes to marathons.  Everytime I get up to like mile 14, 16 on my long runs working up to it...  Something happens.  Once my job sent me overseas.  Another time I completely destroyed my knee and spent the next year in physical therapy. I've once again signed up for one and am kinda living in terror as to what's going to happen this year.  I would be the fifth year in a row something ridiculous happened.  

Swimming?  I did it when I had to cause I was hurt.  And throw it into my workouts when the bad knee starts to get vociferous.  But mostly I avoid the water.  Chem ligh does NOT enjoy being amphibious.  :?


Good luck with that.  You're probably the first person I've heard describe a half-marathon as a "shorter race" Posted Image

To try to bring this discussion at least sort of on topic, what sort of exercise do you think Kaidan would enjoy?  I could actually see him as somebody who runs to keep in shape.  Also, I imagine him having played ice hockey in his youth before getting sent off to BAaT


I think he could enjoy carrying my femshep up to her cabin?

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Joisan wrote...

chem light wrote...

Haha..yes.  I do a lot of shorter races, like half marathons.  I'm kind of cursed when it comes to marathons.  Everytime I get up to like mile 14, 16 on my long runs working up to it...  Something happens.  Once my job sent me overseas.  Another time I completely destroyed my knee and spent the next year in physical therapy. I've once again signed up for one and am kinda living in terror as to what's going to happen this year.  I would be the fifth year in a row something ridiculous happened.  

Swimming?  I did it when I had to cause I was hurt.  And throw it into my workouts when the bad knee starts to get vociferous.  But mostly I avoid the water.  Chem ligh does NOT enjoy being amphibious.  :?


Good luck with that.  You're probably the first person I've heard describe a half-marathon as a "shorter race" Posted Image

To try to bring this discussion at least sort of on topic, what sort of exercise do you think Kaidan would enjoy?  I could actually see him as somebody who runs to keep in shape.  Also, I imagine him having played ice hockey in his youth before getting sent off to BAaT



He's Canadian... isn't that a given?  :whistle:

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chem light wrote...

I think he could enjoy carrying my femshep up to her cabin?


Posted Image  Okay, this thread is definitely permanently located in the gutter.

And yes, Sialater, that was part of the logic behind my thinking as well.

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Joisan wrote...

chem light wrote...

I think he could enjoy carrying my femshep up to her cabin?


Posted Image  Okay, this thread is definitely permanently located in the gutter.

And yes, Sialater, that was part of the logic behind my thinking as well.



Exactly.  Gotta ask who his favorite team is. 

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@Jhosephine:
That was the most epic rant i have read.....in a way you put into word how I feel about it all. I am not a word person, could never put my thoughs into words very well but in your rant you say every thing, and I thank you for it.:wizard:

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To try to bring this discussion at least sort of on topic, what sort of exercise do you think Kaidan would enjoy?


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Joisan wrote...

To try to bring this discussion at least sort of on topic, what sort of exercise do you think Kaidan would enjoy?


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I try to find the silver lining in the Horizon scene time and time again. I try to justify what Bioware did and write it off as "well it leaves us eager for ME3", that it made sense for Shepard and Kaidan to respond the way they did. I can try looking at my Shepard and imagine she looks sad, that it hurts her and the 'How ya doin'?" is just her feeling nervous and awkward. I can try to wrap my mind around as to why Kaidan just wrote 1 mail and we have no way of replying to it despite the hell we're going through and the suicide mission we're on. I can try being all understanding, have faith in Bioware and believe this is what they intended.

I can try, but I fail.

After two long years of waiting, fearing what those 'cameos" would be, longing to continue Shepard's story and finally see Kaidan again, knowing the love story is part of the trilogy. After those two long years, we deserved a whole lot more than the generic crap we got! There, I said it.

I cannot wrap my mind around the fact they used generic dialogue with a slight alteration for both Ash and Kaidan, two characters so different from eachother. The same generic dialogue you get wether or not you import the Shepard from ME1 or used the default one. We waited for two years to get some copy and paste cutscene at the start and copy and paste dialogue on Horizon. Two years to watch as our Shepard approaches Kaidan as if he's just a friend she hasn't seen a while, as if he means nothing to her. We can read between the lines all we want, roleplay what we so desperately WANT to see, it doesn't take away the fact the dialogue was crap.

It almost seems that when Bioware distributed their resources for the sequel, the majority of it went to the new characters to make them as compelling as possible. As if someone just tied Kaidan and Ash into the story with as little resources used as possible, coming up with 1 scene and 1 dialogue that could apply to both characters AND new players. As if disregarding the detail (like Kaidan in phoenix armor) meant they could save said resources to have fun (as they said in an interview) with the new crew, like making Mordin sing.

New and old players should have gotten a different dialogue at Horizon! Kaidan deserved more than showing up in pink armor at the awesome cutscene at the start, he was the male lead of ME1!!! (for a femshep) Geesh!
Was it really too much work and too costly to have the game recognize an imported Shepard with an active romance with Kaidan and thus trigger a loaded, tension filled scene at Horizon? Ignore the fact that Kaidan looks odd with an assault rifle, ignore the fact that he never uses any biotics when the swarm approaches. Fine save on resources there, but give us detail in the dialogue!

I can understand the dark part, the all time low of your relationship. But we waited two years for this! I am not expecting some passionate reunion, hell no, I get why it had to be emotional and tense. What I don't get is Shepard's neutral responses and what I don't get is the lack of follow up after Horizon. The mail was nice, but also too easy. Despite knowing about the cameo, I fully expected Bioware to give Kaidan a 'presence' in ME2, and no not by giving us a picture to stare at. While a lovely detail, it's again too easy.

Part of me expected Kaidan to be like Hackett in ME1, asking your help on occassion as a link to the Alliance. I figured he would be intertwined with Shepard's story still throughout the game. Perhaps not as a full LI because of their issues, but as a military man. (does it make sense? prolly not, but I wanted more from Kaidan) Something. Something that gave him presence without being onscreen.

What we got we're lovely new characters but who I never gave a chance because I spend my time looking for, expecting more from Kaidan. My heart isn't into Thane or Jacob...not even Garrus who I adore but is just a friend to my Shepard. A friend who's dialogue is so limited because he's now written as a LI and he stops speaking to you if you're not interested. Why should I bother getting attached to these characters when the LI's are flings imo and everybody can die at the end and thus be reduced to crappy cameos in part 3? And why should I roleplay my Shepard to be okay with Horizon in my mind when the next moment I see her launch herself at Jacob and I have no control over it what so ever. I cannot roleplay a Shepard like that! Where is my control, where are my choices? I have no effect on Horizon and no effect on Shepard reacting like a woman in heat.

My Shepard has no LI and no one to really talk to on the new Normandy. While Joker mentioned Kaidan it's not in his character to have some indepth dialogue with. And Kelly, well, honestly I wished they would have made Kelly some background NPC who tells you when you have messages and remove all cliche secretary banging from her character. Free up resources and give it to the ME1 LI's. 

I am demanding, I know, I have no right to demand a thing...but I AM disappointed in Bioware for dismissing such great characters ever so easily, despite bringing them back in ME3. I know ME2 is all about the new characters but there didn't have to be that many of them, and thus in my eyes you blew resources on that.
Do we even need new characters added through DLC? Did Zaeed really add something new to the crew? Couldn't his resources been spend on more detail for the characters you already had?

There are times I just get tired of trying to see the silver lining where there's nothing to be seen.

Frustrating. /end rant




THIS! THIS! THIS!
Is there anyway we can get this to Hudson? You've summed up what all the Kaidan fans felt w/ ME2.

And you hit the nail on the head in regards to the "cookie cutter" of Kaidan and Ashley, it is so frustrating that despite the fact they're are two entirely different characters they were lumped into one, favoring Ashley in regards pheonix armor/opening scene, and the collectors attack on Horizon w/ Kaidan not using his Biotics. Come on BioWare...you're capable of so much more than that!

And don't get me wrong, despite the lack of Kaidan, I enjoyed ME2, I'm not the kind of person to completely disregard something because I didn't get what I wanted...so you can throw that arguement out the window.

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THIS! THIS! THIS!
Is there anyway we can get this to Hudson? You've summed up what all the Kaidan fans felt w/ ME2.

And don't get me wrong, despite the lack of Kaidan, I enjoyed ME2, I'm not the kind of person to completely disregard something because I didn't get what I wanted...so you can throw that arguement out the window.


I agree!! If Jho wants it should be sent directly to Casey or BioWare, or have Chris/Stanley read this if they haven't, they might have.. But it's important it's heard because while I'm one of those people who prefer ME2 to ME1, I just can't say the character development and dialogue was as good as ME1, it just left too much to be desired and was sorely missed. 

I just hope that ME3 is that perfect combination of ME2 candy and fun, WITH ME1's solid characterization and interaction. 

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*Shepard's hands slide down*



Kaidan: o.o

Shepard: *squeezesequeeeeeeeze*

Kaidan: Well, at least *that* hasn't changed...

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Eshaye wrote...

LN19 wrote...

THIS! THIS! THIS!
Is there anyway we can get this to Hudson? You've summed up what all the Kaidan fans felt w/ ME2.

And don't get me wrong, despite the lack of Kaidan, I enjoyed ME2, I'm not the kind of person to completely disregard something because I didn't get what I wanted...so you can throw that arguement out the window.


I agree!! If Jho wants it should be sent directly to Casey or BioWare, or have Chris/Stanley read this if they haven't, they might have.. But it's important it's heard because while I'm one of those people who prefer ME2 to ME1, I just can't say the character development and dialogue was as good as ME1, it just left too much to be desired and was sorely missed. 

I just hope that ME3 is that perfect combination of ME2 candy and fun, WITH ME1's solid characterization and interaction. 


Send it to one of the writers that moderates on the board if you're going to send it. Chris Priestly is the community coordinator and doesn't write the stuff ;)

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Joisan wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

Joisan wrote...

To try to bring this discussion at least sort of on topic, what sort of exercise do you think Kaidan would enjoy?


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maybe this....

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LN19 wrote...
THIS! THIS! THIS!
Is there anyway we can get this to Hudson? You've summed up what all the Kaidan fans felt w/ ME2.

And you hit the nail on the head in regards to the "cookie cutter" of Kaidan and Ashley, it is so frustrating that despite the fact they're are two entirely different characters they were lumped into one, favoring Ashley in regards pheonix armor/opening scene, and the collectors attack on Horizon w/ Kaidan not using his Biotics. Come on BioWare...you're capable of so much more than that!

And don't get me wrong, despite the lack of Kaidan, I enjoyed ME2, I'm not the kind of person to completely disregard something because I didn't get what I wanted...so you can throw that arguement out the window.


I'll second that, especially in that I still enjoyed ME2 despite its flaws but I think the dev team needs to read this before they start writing ME3.

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