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The problem with Kaiden being in a DLC is that it would be perfunctory and cheap.  I'll hold out for the big payoff rather than something lame. 


Depends on the DLC, mail or a mission where he requests your help would be nice. I'll wait for ME3 for the major romantic stuff, but something to give him more of a presence (even without actual screentime) would be wonderful imo.


OK, that I can live with.  I would just rather it not suck.

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OK, ladies and gents: I suck at searching for vids, does anyone know where I can find the prologue of Shep ordering Kaidan to the pods?


Erh, I'd be happy to record it for you if you want, need a break from work anyway.

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And BW thought we'd all be excited about a new weapoon?


A new weapon or armor is far from exciting IMO.

After I played through insanity with my soldier I rolled an adept and played on casual.  My adept FemShep did not fire a single bullet until the terminator boss.  It was so nice to stand out of cover and use my biotics on everything after playing on insanity where I was always in cover and could never use biotics :)



I just want to point out something...  My dear wife just casually said "after I played through insanity..."   

She's so awesome.  She has 100% achievement completion on 9 games.  I'm not ashamed to say she puts my Xbox gamerscore to shame.

Doug, you wanted to know how I snagged her...  I have no idea.  Just lucky, I guess.  :wub:

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Btw, we went past page 450 without comment! Nooo!

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Darazelly wrote...

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OK, ladies and gents: I suck at searching for vids, does anyone know where I can find the prologue of Shep ordering Kaidan to the pods?


Erh, I'd be happy to record it for you if you want, need a break from work anyway.


I really just need the dialogue, Joker's too.  (I'm writing the Normandy Memorial/Ilos flashback.)

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Sialater wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

OK, ladies and gents: I suck at searching for vids, does anyone know where I can find the prologue of Shep ordering Kaidan to the pods?


Erh, I'd be happy to record it for you if you want, need a break from work anyway.


I really just need the dialogue, Joker's too.  (I'm writing the Normandy Memorial/Ilos flashback.)


Hope Shepard didn't order him to Becc's pods! :o

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Doug, you wanted to know how I snagged her...  I have no idea.  Just lucky, I guess.  :wub:

Indeed you are a lucky bugger!

Well, somehow I managed to make myself Becc's v.boyfriend, so I'm close! Just need to build a cannon to fire me from here to there... or...you know...drive up there. But the canon is cooler!

Modifié par Doug84, 09 mars 2010 - 07:03 .


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To be honest... apart from Liara (since there's some actual file-based evidence for that), I wouldn't expect any romance-related DLC. (And even the Liara DLC may end up giving nothing to those that romanced her, though I sincerely hope otherwise.) It's the kind of things that many die-hard fans who are really into the story and characters would love, but we're far more likely to get equipment and missions (as they are seen as having the broadest appeal).

On a Kaidan-related matter, I was just thinking back to my efforts, some time ago, to write Shepard's e-mail response to Kaidan. At first, I filled it with explanations and justifications for why she was working with Cerberus. I figured that it was an actual issue and he deserved to know Shepard's reasons.  Eventually, though, when I saw how long the explanation got, I changed my mind. Kaidan's email itself is short and sweet. Shepard's should not be (much) longer. Moreover, explaining the reasons for being with Cerberus make it "all about Shep" - there's too much ego involved in the need for self-justification. Ultimately, I think the two questions Kaidan's email really asked were: 1) is Shepard still dedicated to the same ideals, and 2) does Shepard still care about him? The most important things were to answer those questions... to focus the reply on *Kaidan* rather than on herself. I mean, don't get me wrong. I've read some good fanfic where, in response to the exchange on Horizon, Shepard (or Joker) justifies joining Cerberus to Kaidan. But, to me, there are more important things at stake. Anyone agree / disagree?

Modifié par Estelindis, 09 mars 2010 - 07:08 .


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Sialater wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Sialater wrote...
The problem with Kaiden being in a DLC is that it would be perfunctory and cheap.  I'll hold out for the big payoff rather than something lame. 


Depends on the DLC, mail or a mission where he requests your help would be nice. I'll wait for ME3 for the major romantic stuff, but something to give him more of a presence (even without actual screentime) would be wonderful imo.


OK, that I can live with.  I would just rather it not suck.

I would enjoy anything with Kaidan even if it is small- may be another e-mail wouldn't be so bad.

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Doug84 wrote...

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Doug, you wanted to know how I snagged her...  I have no idea.  Just lucky, I guess.  :wub:

Indeed you are a lucky bugger!

Well, somehow I managed to make myself Becc's v.boyfriend, so I'm close! Just need to build a cannon to fire me from here to there... or...you know...drive up there. But the canon is cooler!



Dude, here in the States we have national parks bigger than your entire country.  It's not like it's some huge trek, at least, not by American standards.  ;)

Modifié par BloodyTemplar, 09 mars 2010 - 07:10 .


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milkabi wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Sialater wrote...
The problem with Kaiden being in a DLC is that it would be perfunctory and cheap.  I'll hold out for the big payoff rather than something lame. 


Depends on the DLC, mail or a mission where he requests your help would be nice. I'll wait for ME3 for the major romantic stuff, but something to give him more of a presence (even without actual screentime) would be wonderful imo.


OK, that I can live with.  I would just rather it not suck.

I would enjoy anything with Kaidan even if it is small- may be another e-mail wouldn't be so bad.


Kelly: Commander, you have messages on your private terminal.

Shep: :huh:

Email: Sender: Kaidan Alenko

Shep: :o

Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...

Shep: :crying:

Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette

Shep: :blink::sick:

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Sialater wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

OK, ladies and gents: I suck at searching for vids, does anyone know where I can find the prologue of Shep ordering Kaidan to the pods?


Erh, I'd be happy to record it for you if you want, need a break from work anyway.


I really just need the dialogue, Joker's too.  (I'm writing the Normandy Memorial/Ilos flashback.)


Ah, well I'm going to grab the videos from the start anyway so. Barely remember the dialogue from that part anyway. :?

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BloodyTemplar wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

BloodyTemplar wrote...
Doug, you wanted to know how I snagged her...  I have no idea.  Just lucky, I guess.  :wub:

Indeed you are a lucky bugger!

Well, somehow I managed to make myself Becc's v.boyfriend, so I'm close! Just need to build a cannon to fire me from here to there... or...you know...drive up there. But the canon is cooler!



Dude, here in the States we have national parks bigger than your entire country.  It's not like it's some huge trek, at least, not by American standards.  ;)


Hey, its not the size that counts... wait, what.

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Darazelly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

OK, ladies and gents: I suck at searching for vids, does anyone know where I can find the prologue of Shep ordering Kaidan to the pods?


Erh, I'd be happy to record it for you if you want, need a break from work anyway.


I really just need the dialogue, Joker's too.  (I'm writing the Normandy Memorial/Ilos flashback.)


Ah, well I'm going to grab the videos from the start anyway so. Barely remember the dialogue from that part anyway. :?


I remember the gist of it, but don't want to try and write it from memory; I would probably make a fair amount of mistakes.

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Doug84 wrote...

milkabi wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Sialater wrote...
The problem with Kaiden being in a DLC is that it would be perfunctory and cheap.  I'll hold out for the big payoff rather than something lame. 


Depends on the DLC, mail or a mission where he requests your help would be nice. I'll wait for ME3 for the major romantic stuff, but something to give him more of a presence (even without actual screentime) would be wonderful imo.


OK, that I can live with.  I would just rather it not suck.

I would enjoy anything with Kaidan even if it is small- may be another e-mail wouldn't be so bad.


Kelly: Commander, you have messages on your private terminal.

Shep: :huh:

Email: Sender: Kaidan Alenko

Shep: :o

Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...

Shep: :crying:

Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette

Shep: :blink::sick:



That might not be so bad, actually.  She'd be kinda soft and squishy.  And imagine what she could do with the tentacles!  :wub:

No, I'm not Japanese.  Why do you ask?  :D

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Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...
Shep: :crying:
Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette
Shep: :blink::sick:

But... she's a big stupid jellyfish!

*ducks*

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Joisan wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Darazelly wrote...

Sialater wrote...

OK, ladies and gents: I suck at searching for vids, does anyone know where I can find the prologue of Shep ordering Kaidan to the pods?


Erh, I'd be happy to record it for you if you want, need a break from work anyway.


I really just need the dialogue, Joker's too.  (I'm writing the Normandy Memorial/Ilos flashback.)


Ah, well I'm going to grab the videos from the start anyway so. Barely remember the dialogue from that part anyway. :?


I remember the gist of it, but don't want to try and write it from memory; I would probably make a fair amount of mistakes.



Awesome, I owe you big time, Darazelly! 

I remember the gist of it, too.  But these are Shep's last memories before she dies.  And the last things before Horizon Kaidan says to her.

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I tend to think that Joker might have said something to him, It felt like he did say something after I had talked to him after Horizon incident. I just felt that Joker listened in too Kaidan, and I trying too woe each other, since it is comical gold listen to how we had woed each other.

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BloodyTemplar wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

milkabi wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Jhosephine wrote...

Sialater wrote...
The problem with Kaiden being in a DLC is that it would be perfunctory and cheap.  I'll hold out for the big payoff rather than something lame. 


Depends on the DLC, mail or a mission where he requests your help would be nice. I'll wait for ME3 for the major romantic stuff, but something to give him more of a presence (even without actual screentime) would be wonderful imo.


OK, that I can live with.  I would just rather it not suck.

I would enjoy anything with Kaidan even if it is small- may be another e-mail wouldn't be so bad.


Kelly: Commander, you have messages on your private terminal.

Shep: :huh:

Email: Sender: Kaidan Alenko

Shep: :o

Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...

Shep: :crying:

Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette

Shep: :blink::sick:



That might not be so bad, actually.  She'd be kinda soft and squishy.  And imagine what she could do with the tentacles!  :wub:

No, I'm not Japanese.  Why do you ask?  :D


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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I tend to think that Joker might have said something to him, It felt like he did say something after I had talked to him after Horizon incident. I just felt that Joker listened in too Kaidan, and I trying too woe each other, since it is comical gold listen to how we had woed each other.



Are you kidding?  Joker listened in to everything.  Even before EDI was giving him live feeds. ;)

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Estelindis wrote...

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Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...
Shep: :crying:
Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette
Shep: :blink::sick:

But... she's a big stupid insane and murderous jellyfish!

*ducks*


Fixed it for you :D

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Estelindis wrote...

Doug84 wrote...
Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...
Shep: :crying:
Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette
Shep: :blink::sick:

But... she's a big stupid jellyfish!

*ducks*


Least Shep doesn't need a pod for Blastette, just some wasabi and soy sauce.

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Shenzi wrote...

Estelindis wrote...

Doug84 wrote...
Kaidan: I'm sorry, I've moved on...
Shep: :crying:
Kaidan: ...with Spectre Blastette
Shep: :blink::sick:

But... she's a big stupid jellyfish!

*ducks*


Least Shep doesn't need a pod for Blastette, just some wasabi and soy sauce.


:lol::lol::lol:

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To be honest... apart from Liara (since there's some actual file-based evidence for that), I wouldn't expect any romance-related DLC. (And even the Liara DLC may end up giving nothing to those that romanced her, though I sincerely hope otherwise.) It's the kind of things that many die-hard fans who are really into the story and characters would love, but we're far more likely to get equipment and missions (as they are seen as having the broadest appeal).

On a Kaidan-related matter, I was just thinking back to my efforts, some time ago, to write Shepard's e-mail response to Kaidan. At first, I filled it with explanations and justifications for why she was working with Cerberus. I figured that it was an actual issue and he deserved to know Shepard's reasons.  Eventually, though, when I saw how long the explanation got, I changed my mind. Kaidan's email itself is short and sweet. Shepard's should not be (much) longer. Moreover, explaining the reasons for being with Cerberus make it "all about Shep" - there's too much ego involved in the need for self-justification. Ultimately, I think the two questions Kaidan's email really asked were: 1) is Shepard still dedicated to the same ideals, and 2) does Shepard still care about him? The most important things were to answer those questions... to focus the reply on *Kaidan* rather than on herself. I mean, don't get me wrong. I've read some good fanfic where, in response to the exchange on Horizon, Shepard (or Joker) justifies joining Cerberus to Kaidan. But, to me, there are more important things at stake. Anyone agree / disagree?


I agree completely.

In every relationship, there is a time to be selfish and a time to look out for the other person. I think something that Shepard needs to realize is is that it's not all about her. Yes, she was resurrected and there's a lot of baggage with that.

But Kaidan has two years of pain and old wounds. Those wounds have been reopened; he lashed out in pain. For a guy as softspoken and unselfish as him, his reaction says a lot.

And the email was the best he could do. He couldn't propose a meeting; he's obviously an agent for Anderson atm. I think he was also giving Shepard her space so he could do her job and not have to worry about him distracting her. He had the same concern of 'muddying things' in ME1. He put aside his desire to see her again so that she could work uninhibited. He doesn't want to burden her any more than he already has.

Kaidan is a very caring person, and I think it's time that Shepard returned the favor, you know? ^_^

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Sialater wrote...

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I tend to think that Joker might have said something to him, It felt like he did say something after I had talked to him after Horizon incident. I just felt that Joker listened in too Kaidan, and I trying too woe each other, since it is comical gold listen to how we had woed each other.



Are you kidding?  Joker listened in to everything.  Even before EDI was giving him live feeds. ;)

Yes I really think Joker listened in too everything :P