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But...but...SMOKE BOMB

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Awww can we keep him?

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Oh no! Doug is learning too fast. He's realized one of our greatest weaknesses is puppies....

*eyes pod suspiciously*

But...but...SMOKE BOMB

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Awwww....look at the puppy! *turns around* Blasted!  He got away.

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Oh no... we might need to pod him before he tries to overthrow us all!


*sets up puppy based defences around the DougCave*

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This is one of my favorites from when our little guy was a puppy, our older dog is actually the puppy's father.

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Sialater wrote...

chem light wrote...

I can haz sekrit pic please?

I agree. Kaidan is totally a dog person. Gotta love dogs. They can always tell when you're upset, always happy to see you, freely share their favorite toys with you even you really don't want it right now. "But no, master, I insist!"

Honestly I never wanted a cat (they tend to be elitest snobs), but then I saw my little guy in the back of a trailer at the motor pool surviving all alone...well..I couldn't just couldn't let animal control take him and put him down...sooo now I haz lol cat. He was raised by dogs though, so he's confused. And then I found five dollars.



One of my cats thinks the oldest Labrador is his mom.  He's actually run to her for protection when she was closer to him than I was.  He's a bit confused as well.

I don't actually think Kaidan is a pet person at all.  

If he is not then He'll have to get use to the idea of a pet. I am a dog/Cat person. I have had eight cats through out my childhood then three dogs.


I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?

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Shenzi wrote...

This is one of my favorites from when our little guy was a puppy, our older dog is actually the puppy's father.

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Awww, cute :D

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I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


I have 10 dogs and 1 cat. The cat was not my idea, but she and I manage to coexist.

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Doug84 wrote...

chem light wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

chem light wrote...
Oh no! Doug is learning too fast. He's realized one of our greatest weaknesses is puppies....

*eyes pod suspiciously*

But...but...SMOKE BOMB

Posted Image

Awwww....look at the puppy! *turns around* Blasted!  He got away.

Brijenieve wrote...
Oh no... we might need to pod him before he tries to overthrow us all!


*sets up puppy based defences around the DougCave*

Who would have known that puppies would have been more effective than Kaidan.:o

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Shenzi wrote...

This is one of my favorites from when our little guy was a puppy, our older dog is actually the puppy's father.

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Cuteness. Win.

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Sialater wrote...

RyrineaNara wrote...

Sialater wrote...

chem light wrote...

I can haz sekrit pic please?

I agree. Kaidan is totally a dog person. Gotta love dogs. They can always tell when you're upset, always happy to see you, freely share their favorite toys with you even you really don't want it right now. "But no, master, I insist!"

Honestly I never wanted a cat (they tend to be elitest snobs), but then I saw my little guy in the back of a trailer at the motor pool surviving all alone...well..I couldn't just couldn't let animal control take him and put him down...sooo now I haz lol cat. He was raised by dogs though, so he's confused. And then I found five dollars.



One of my cats thinks the oldest Labrador is his mom.  He's actually run to her for protection when she was closer to him than I was.  He's a bit confused as well.

I don't actually think Kaidan is a pet person at all.  

If he is not then He'll have to get use to the idea of a pet. I am a dog/Cat person. I have had eight cats through out my childhood then three dogs.


I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


Interesting question. Its hard to tell because we're unusual in that regard for Earth species - we seem able to bond with and develop symbolic relationships with a vast range of species - other species might have 1 or 2 relationships of that type, but we have them with herd animals, cats, dogs, horses, hamsters, gerbals, dolphins, to name but a few.

I would imagine other intelligent beings would reckonize the value of such relationships, so I imagine we wouldn't be unique in that regard.

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Einea wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


I have 10 dogs and 1 cat. The cat was not my idea, but she and I manage to coexist.


Good call; if Kaidan is a spacer kid he probably didn't get the chance to have a pet (at least, a dog) of his own. I could see him getting away with having a cat (they don't usually need as much room as big dogs do, for one), though. Military ships/stations with family quarters probably have a little more flexibility than a warship would - like a military base with family residences. Just speculation. :)

As for the other races... "Ah yes. "Pets." We have dismissed this claim." Haha of course. I think the Salarians would be confused as to the purpose of such a creature; I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

I've had hamsters (of the non-space variety) a few times in my life, and usually have 2-3 cats. I really, really want a dog though - something big and loyal and loving and playful. :)

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My family has had cats and dogs through the years, but I'm a cat person at heart. We finally found a pet friendly apartment last year and I got one cat, who is my best fur-buddy, and then later in the year I got a kitten to keep him company. My son would prefer dogs, but with our crazy schedules, kitties are all we can handle, even if we had more room and a backyard.



Kaidan seems like a dog person, but probably hasn't had the time or inclination to have a pet. If I had to pin down my Shepards, they'd all be cat people, like me.

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Joisan wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

what's the story on kaidan's folks? dead, alive? dad's in the alliance, or retired? and his mother?


Dad's retired Alliance.  No mention of dead or alive but I'm going to assume alive.  Never talks about his mother or whether he has siblings as far as I know.


http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Kaidan
- father is alive
- from obsessive conversation with him, you will learn that he is reconciled with his father at some point before Ilos
- his conversation implies that his mother is dead but they never said so
- it sounds like he has a large extended family but no siblings are ever mentioned
- and of course, the cousin who is a farmer.  I forget when that comes up, sorry.

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I'm done tinkering for the coming days, but somewhat finished the more steamy pic. Since it's not going on the forum or in my album, I don't care if it isn't completely done ;) Any takers for a PM with the link? (no xrated parts, but it isn't forum proof)



Hi Jho! I'd like the link please!

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I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


Interesting question. Its hard to tell because we're unusual in that regard for Earth species - we seem able to bond with and develop symbolic relationships with a vast range of species - other species might have 1 or 2 relationships of that type, but we have them with herd animals, cats, dogs, horses, hamsters, gerbals, dolphins, to name but a few.

I would imagine other intelligent beings would reckonize the value of such relationships, so I imagine we wouldn't be unique in that regard.


I think it would depend upon their evolution as a species.  Would they have wiped out everything but what they needed to survive (ie, nothing left but food animals, no partner animals at all)?  Are their home planets nothing but cityscapes?  Did they wipe out all the "partner" animals before they pulled themselves into civilization?  We left quite a few "competitors" in the extinction pile after all. 

Just how ruthless were the other species in their evolutionary phase of their civilization before they realized, hey, wait, that animal over there is kinda cute and it's not a threat?  Or would we (and the krogan) be the oddballs?

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Daewan wrote...

Joisan wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

what's the story on kaidan's folks? dead, alive? dad's in the alliance, or retired? and his mother?


Dad's retired Alliance.  No mention of dead or alive but I'm going to assume alive.  Never talks about his mother or whether he has siblings as far as I know.


http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Kaidan
- father is alive
- from obsessive conversation with him, you will learn that he is reconciled with his father at some point before Ilos
- his conversation implies that his mother is dead but they never said so
- it sounds like he has a large extended family but no siblings are ever mentioned
- and of course, the cousin who is a farmer.  I forget when that comes up, sorry.


He has a farmer cousin?? I must have missed that, haha. 
Thanks for the info! I finally  have a new fic idea and I wanted it to be somewhat accurate with what we know. :happy:

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Brijenieve wrote...

Einea wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


I have 10 dogs and 1 cat. The cat was not my idea, but she and I manage to coexist.


Good call; if Kaidan is a spacer kid he probably didn't get the chance to have a pet (at least, a dog) of his own. I could see him getting away with having a cat (they don't usually need as much room as big dogs do, for one), though. Military ships/stations with family quarters probably have a little more flexibility than a warship would - like a military base with family residences. Just speculation. :)

As for the other races... "Ah yes. "Pets." We have dismissed this claim." Haha of course. I think the Salarians would be confused as to the purpose of such a creature; I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

I've had hamsters (of the non-space variety) a few times in my life, and usually have 2-3 cats. I really, really want a dog though - something big and loyal and loving and playful. :)



Well, cats would serve another purpose on a space going vessel.  Like in Alien, they would still be hunting for rodents, even in the 22nd Century.

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Brijenieve wrote...

Daewan wrote...

Joisan wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

what's the story on kaidan's folks? dead, alive? dad's in the alliance, or retired? and his mother?


Dad's retired Alliance.  No mention of dead or alive but I'm going to assume alive.  Never talks about his mother or whether he has siblings as far as I know.


http://masseffect.wi...com/wiki/Kaidan
- father is alive
- from obsessive conversation with him, you will learn that he is reconciled with his father at some point before Ilos
- his conversation implies that his mother is dead but they never said so
- it sounds like he has a large extended family but no siblings are ever mentioned
- and of course, the cousin who is a farmer.  I forget when that comes up, sorry.


He has a farmer cousin?? I must have missed that, haha. 
Thanks for the info! I finally  have a new fic idea and I wanted it to be somewhat accurate with what we know. :happy:


I don't think his mother's dead... there's that comment on Noveria that she told him to bring a sweater.

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Sialater wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

Sialater wrote...



I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


Interesting question. Its hard to tell because we're unusual in that regard for Earth species - we seem able to bond with and develop symbolic relationships with a vast range of species - other species might have 1 or 2 relationships of that type, but we have them with herd animals, cats, dogs, horses, hamsters, gerbals, dolphins, to name but a few.

I would imagine other intelligent beings would reckonize the value of such relationships, so I imagine we wouldn't be unique in that regard.


I think it would depend upon their evolution as a species.  Would they have wiped out everything but what they needed to survive (ie, nothing left but food animals, no partner animals at all)?  Are their home planets nothing but cityscapes?  Did they wipe out all the "partner" animals before they pulled themselves into civilization?  We left quite a few "competitors" in the extinction pile after all. 

Just how ruthless were the other species in their evolutionary phase of their civilization before they realized, hey, wait, that animal over there is kinda cute and it's not a threat?  Or would we (and the krogan) be the oddballs?


Ah, but the thing is, its not just a matter of pets, see?

Dogs are really tamer wolves, and helped early humans hunt - and later on where useful in wars, in herding, in guarding. As pets, they've been shown to increase life expectancy, probably cus they help relax their owners.

Horses are good work animals, can be used for rides over long distances, and so forth.

And so on. Symbolic relationships benefited our ancestors greatly - not as much today, but their are still working dogs, horses, and so on.

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Good morning! Just passing through at the moment - have to run out the door in a couple minutes - bleh. (Have I ever mentioned that I really think mornings should be banned? At least if they involve work activities!)



Anyway, just wanted to wave at ya'll. Loved the pet pics. My baby (an American Bull Dog) passed away last year so we're down to one dog, five cats, two fire-bellied toads and six Koi.



I can see Kaidan with a big dog, at least as a kid. He seems the type. Dunno about on a ship though. I always thought that the beagle in Enterprise, although cute, was somewhat out of place. I mean just think of the potty-training issues! And being locked in the Captain's cabin all day and hardly ever getting to really go outside. Not exactly dog heaven, imo.

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Brijenieve wrote...
 I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

 
I sincerely hope nobody on this thread is using pet's to embrace eternity!  :o:P

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chem light wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...
 I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

 
I sincerely hope nobody on this thread is using pet's to embrace eternity!  :o:P


:blink::huh:

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Doug84 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

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I have three large dogs and two cats who think they're dogs.   I am definintely a pet person.


But I think that Kaidan would not have had the opportunity to be around animals much what with Brain Camp and service in the Alliance. 

I do have to wonder, though, what the salarians, asari, turians et al would think of humanity and its symbiotic relationship with the lesser species of Earth.  Krogan kept the verran around, so I think they'd get it, but what would the other races think of Labs?


Interesting question. Its hard to tell because we're unusual in that regard for Earth species - we seem able to bond with and develop symbolic relationships with a vast range of species - other species might have 1 or 2 relationships of that type, but we have them with herd animals, cats, dogs, horses, hamsters, gerbals, dolphins, to name but a few.

I would imagine other intelligent beings would reckonize the value of such relationships, so I imagine we wouldn't be unique in that regard.


I think it would depend upon their evolution as a species.  Would they have wiped out everything but what they needed to survive (ie, nothing left but food animals, no partner animals at all)?  Are their home planets nothing but cityscapes?  Did they wipe out all the "partner" animals before they pulled themselves into civilization?  We left quite a few "competitors" in the extinction pile after all. 

Just how ruthless were the other species in their evolutionary phase of their civilization before they realized, hey, wait, that animal over there is kinda cute and it's not a threat?  Or would we (and the krogan) be the oddballs?


Ah, but the thing is, its not just a matter of pets, see?

Dogs are really tamer wolves, and helped early humans hunt - and later on where useful in wars, in herding, in guarding. As pets, they've been shown to increase life expectancy, probably cus they help relax their owners.

Horses are good work animals, can be used for rides over long distances, and so forth.

And so on. Symbolic relationships benefited our ancestors greatly - not as much today, but their are still working dogs, horses, and so on.




That's why I called them partner animals, not pets.  They helped us a great deal in our evolution.  I'm just wondering, if say, asari had horse-like animals, maybe salarians used giant lizards to haul wagons, or turians kept some sort of hunting assistants around.  And if they kept them around like we would have.

But no, I still don't think Kaidan would have had a lot of experience with pets.

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Doug84 wrote...

chem light wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...
 I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

 
I sincerely hope nobody on this thread is using pet's to embrace eternity!  :o:P


:blink::huh:

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Doug84 wrote...

chem light wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...
 I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

 
I sincerely hope nobody on this thread is using pet's to embrace eternity!  :o:P


:blink::huh:


Wait! I didn't - that's not what I mea - Aaaugh my brain! :blink:

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Brijenieve wrote...

Doug84 wrote...

chem light wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...
 I'm not sure what the Asari would think. They seem to support Life as a whole and the belief that we are all connected, and might think that having a pet would help humans "embrace eternity" or something?

 
I sincerely hope nobody on this thread is using pet's to embrace eternity!  :o:P


:blink::huh:


Wait! I didn't - that's not what I mea - Aaaugh my brain! :blink:


Posted Image  My cat likes to nip my hand if I pet him too much...I really would not want to see his reaction to asari mind melding...