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[fortunesque]

Collider wrote...

I fully expect the Kaidan fangirls to picket Bioware headquarters and eventually remove all traces of life from the building if that does not happen. =p

You. have. no. idea.



We will destroy. <_<

[Jhourney]

TeenZombie wrote...

Collider wrote...

I fully expect the Kaidan fangirls to picket Bioware headquarters and eventually remove all traces of life from the building if that does not happen. =p

"I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!"

:lol:

[sapphyreelf]

AkodoRyu wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

 Now I'm okay with it, and the Kaidan message is the only one I leave unread in all my playthroughs. 

Kaidan peeks at your mailbox (usually when you read mail, it's automaticaly "marked as read").
K: Um... You didn't read the message?
Sh: Huh? What me-AH THAT message! I did!
K: I can see you didn't...
Sh: I did! I just marked it "unread" so I could always find it...
K: You could press this star-shaped thingy for that...

(lectures Shepard how to use a gee-mail)

K: So... did you really read it?

 

I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team). I could see her cussing and shocking herself as she tries to get things sorted, and if Kaidan were there, befuddled as why she is doing things the hard way.

[The Angry One]

TeenZombie wrote...

Collider wrote...

I fully expect the Kaidan fangirls to picket Bioware headquarters and eventually remove all traces of life from the building if that does not happen. =p

"I WILL DESTROY YOU!!!"

Go go go!
Enemies everywhere!
I will destroy you!
I will destroy you!
Go go go!
Enemies everywhere!

Now I have that in my head again.

[archonambroseus]

taigin wrote...

Collider wrote...

Shepard literally saves Tali and Garrus from dying (return favor, etc), and both of them don't really have any attachments. Whereas Kaidan is still in the Alliance and has just learned that you were alive. I think it's important to consider that Bioware wanted them to have a justification not to join Shepard. I'm fairly certain the romance will continue and mend in ME3.

Yea i mostly see it as a plot device to keep them safe for me3. It also opens up for you to date the other Li's in a smooth way.

That's true as well; I seem to recall someone at BioWare saying that they were hoping to present a bit of a dilemma between staying faithful and going for what they saw as some rather compelling (and obviously much more… present) ME2 LIs.  Obviously they were only playing as DudeSheps.

On a similar note, I noticed something interesting recently.  I've romanced Kaidan a few times now; a few ended at Virmire and a few ended pre-Ilos with me telling Kaidan that it wasn't the right time.  While the latter does, as noted earlier, lead to his picture on your desk, I realized going through my achievements that I didn't have the Paramour achievement.  Now, the wording for the achievement is this: "Complete any romance subplot."

From this, I can only gather that in Alberta, a romace constitutes as "failed" unless (or until the point that) somebody gets boned.

[jillyfae]

archonambroseus wrote...

That's true as well; I seem to recall someone at BioWare saying that they were hoping to present a bit of a dilemma between staying faithful and going for what they saw as some rather compelling (and obviously much more… present) ME2 LIs.  Obviously they were only playing as DudeSheps.

Actually, I haven't played my maleShep from ME1 yet... do the male romances not require horrible-psuedo-pick-up-lines to get them started like the femShep romances do?  Cause I can see how Miranda/Jack/Tali could each actually present an interesting romance.  (Though, the Tali one always makes me think poor Shep must have been worrying about "going to the special hell" for bad captains who take advantage of innocent young ladies... especially if you play that he was attracted to her in ME1.)

[Collider]

There are no horrible pick up lines in the Tali romance. You can tease her a little bit (asking her if she's blushing under the mask) but the romance begins with Shepard saying that he feels the same way about Tali. As for Jack, I don't think the paragon romance involves any cheesy pick up lines, but more of a "I care about you." Miranda, don't know, didn't do it.

[AkodoRyu]

sapphyreelf wrote...

I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team).

Did you noticed that in ME2 Shepard's using her(his) omni-tool more willingly? I was like "wow, girl, you finally figured out how this thing works?" Because in ME1 it is always your squadmate doing the hacking/information gathering/you name it..

[Collider]

AkodoRyu wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team).

Did you noticed that in ME2 Shepard's using her(his) omni-tool more willingly? I was like "wow, girl, you finally figured out how this thing works?" Because in ME1 it is always your squadmate doing the hacking/information gathering/you name it..

I like how in ME2 there's less of Shepard randomly switching to pistols or assault rifles in cutscenes. It's still there, but in a lesser way.

[sapphyreelf]

AkodoRyu wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team).

Did you noticed that in ME2 Shepard's using her(his) omni-tool more willingly? I was like "wow, girl, you finally figured out how this thing works?" Because in ME1 it is always your squadmate doing the hacking/information gathering/you name it..

I noticed that too, but as soon as Kaidan is back, she's going to make him do all the tech/geek fun again while she plays more with her guns.

*waves to Somebody*
Kelly asks about Kaidan. I think you can give her the same kind of general responses as you can about Ash.

[syllogi]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I know when maleshep meets Ashley on Horizon Kelly asks about the relationship,
Does she say anything different to femshep for Kaidan?

It's probably about the same, she just asks if you're okay, and how you feel about Kaidan now.  Joker probably has the same lines too, just asks how you're doing.

[Sialater]

AkodoRyu wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team).

Did you noticed that in ME2 Shepard's using her(his) omni-tool more willingly? I was like "wow, girl, you finally figured out how this thing works?" Because in ME1 it is always your squadmate doing the hacking/information gathering/you name it..

While I thought that was lame if you're playing a tech of any sort, it does make more sense to have someone else do it if you're an Adept or Vanguard or something.

[archonambroseus]

jillyfae wrote...

archonambroseus wrote...

That's true as well; I seem to recall someone at BioWare saying that they were hoping to present a bit of a dilemma between staying faithful and going for what they saw as some rather compelling (and obviously much more… present) ME2 LIs.  Obviously they were only playing as DudeSheps.

Actually, I haven't played my maleShep from ME1 yet... do the male romances not require horrible-psuedo-pick-up-lines to get them started like the femShep romances do?  Cause I can see how Miranda/Jack/Tali could each actually present an interesting romance.  (Though, the Tali one always makes me think poor Shep must have been worrying about "going to the special hell" for bad captains who take advantage of innocent young ladies... especially if you play that he was attracted to her in ME1.)

Actually I haven't done a DudeShep in ME2 yet, but for non-xenophilic FemSheps, all you have is Lieutenant PRAAAAAAAAHHHZE.  Even if you don't mind getting with an alien, Garrus is really the only male ME2 LI who doesn't have more of a hatedom than a fandom (well, Thane doesn't really have a hatedom, just a ewcreeper-dom).

Although I don't know much about the DudeShep LIs, at least you've got a better roster of personae.  You have the cute "girl next door" archetype, the troubled psycho b****, and the ice queen with a heart of, um… ice queen with a heart.  So seems like considerably better prospects right off the bat.

[fortunesque]

AkodoRyu wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...

I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team).

Did you noticed that in ME2 Shepard's using her(his) omni-tool more willingly? I was like "wow, girl, you finally figured out how this thing works?" Because in ME1 it is always your squadmate doing the hacking/information gathering/you name it..

I'll admit that when you first said 'omni tool' my mind went to the gutter. MShep can his omni tool in ME2 quite a bit actually.

[jillyfae]

Collider wrote...

There are no horrible pick up lines in the Tali romance. You can tease her a little bit (asking her if she's blushing under the mask) but the romance begins with Shepard saying that he feels the same way about Tali. As for Jack, I don't think the paragon romance involves any cheesy pick up lines, but more of a "I care about you." Miranda, don't know, didn't do it.

Wow.  Ashley is so getting screwed in my playthroughs.  She usually dies on Virmire, and the female LI's in ME2 are actually interesting, so thus she may get cheated on the few times she survives.  So not fair.

[Annakie]

sapphyreelf wrote...
I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team). I could see her cussing and shocking herself as she tries to get things sorted, and if Kaidan were there, befuddled as why she is doing things the hard way.

Haha I do that, too!  I always imagine my Vanguard Shep mashing at buttons in the first Cerebus base going "Okay, what the heck would Kaidan be doing?  He told me once about how to hack things... what happened to that circle jumping thing he showed me before?  I don't understand, wait am I trying to connect dots here?"

Also, as much as I like Garrus and Tali, I almost never bring them along in ME1 because there are a bunch of Tech-oriented lines in various places that Kaidan will say if he's the only tech specialist on the team.  Garrus or Tali will say them instead (or maybe there's like a 50/50 chance, I don't know) if they're along, also. 

[Collider]

Annakie wrote...
Also, as much as I like Garrus and Tali, I almost never bring them along in ME1 because there are a bunch of Tech-oriented lines in various places that Kaidan will say if he's the only tech specialist on the team.  Garrus or Tali will say them instead (or maybe there's like a 50/50 chance, I don't know) if they're along, also. 

It has to do with what slot they are in. For example, whoever is in the first slot when dealing with the Rachni expresses that the Rachni Queen could be dangerous, whoever is in the second slot says that killing the Rachni Queen might be a bad idea. There are a few exceptions, including Paragon or Renegade Kaidan/Ashley, maybe Garrus as well. ME2 doesn't seem to suffer some the slot dialogue thing as much.

[fortunesque]

Annakie wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...
I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team). I could see her cussing and shocking herself as she tries to get things sorted, and if Kaidan were there, befuddled as why she is doing things the hard way.

Haha I do that, too!  I always imagine my Vanguard Shep mashing at buttons in the first Cerebus base going "Okay, what the heck would Kaidan be doing?  He told me once about how to hack things... what happened to that circle jumping thing he showed me before?  I don't understand, wait am I trying to connect dots here?"

Also, as much as I like Garrus and Tali, I almost never bring them along in ME1 because there are a bunch of Tech-oriented lines in various places that Kaidan will say if he's the only tech specialist on the team.  Garrus or Tali will say them instead (or maybe there's like a 50/50 chance, I don't know) if they're along, also. 

Haha. Yes, the presidium tracking quest and the MSV cornucopia quest.

Kaidan can do Tali and Garrus' jobs just fine. He can also do Liara's job

[sapphyreelf]

Kaidan and my vanguard Shep could be a two man wrecking crew. Then we also wouldn't have to worry about regulations. 

Modifié par sapphyreelf, 22 mars 2010 - 07:20 .

[sapphyreelf]

Kaidan only gets pistols since he gets several biotic skills, decryption, electronics, first aid, and medicine.

[AkodoRyu]

fortunesque wrote...

I'll admit that when you first said 'omni tool' my mind went to the gutter. MShep can his omni tool in ME2 quite a bit actually.

:3


I'm so mean.

Modifié par AkodoRyu, 22 mars 2010 - 07:37 .

[syllogi]

Somebody1003 wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Annakie wrote...

sapphyreelf wrote...
I always picture my Shep in ME2 without Kaidan trying to do all those hacking and other tech things herself (especially since you do some by yourself at the beginning of the game regardless if you have a tech person on your team). I could see her cussing and shocking herself as she tries to get things sorted, and if Kaidan were there, befuddled as why she is doing things the hard way.

Haha I do that, too!  I always imagine my Vanguard Shep mashing at buttons in the first Cerebus base going "Okay, what the heck would Kaidan be doing?  He told me once about how to hack things... what happened to that circle jumping thing he showed me before?  I don't understand, wait am I trying to connect dots here?"

Also, as much as I like Garrus and Tali, I almost never bring them along in ME1 because there are a bunch of Tech-oriented lines in various places that Kaidan will say if he's the only tech specialist on the team.  Garrus or Tali will say them instead (or maybe there's like a 50/50 chance, I don't know) if they're along, also. 

Haha. Yes, the presidium tracking quest and the MSV cornucopia quest.

Kaidan can do Tali and Garrus' jobs just fine. He can also do Liara's job

I never knew he had both decryption and electronic.

He is quite a good squaddie then.
My next ME1 run will have him by me all the time now. Is he trained for assult rifles though or just pistols?

No matter what class your Shepard is, I find that teaming up with Kaidan and Wrex balances well, and if you enjoy playing with lots of biotics, it's extremely satisfying to charge into a room and have half the enemies hanging upside down in the air within three seconds.