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[Darazelly]

And there's the reason why I simply have given up on trying to write anything = I don't have the skill, nor the real life experience. *Shrugs*



As for people twisting characters towards being completely different than they really are, it's a sad sight to see.

[Sialater]

fortunesque wrote...

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Re: Shepards
It's tough to keep a balance of making Shepard human/normal yet keeping that commanderly aura. One rule that I try to keep is that not everyone should know Shepard's exact business, and maybe only one of the crew (the LI) knows the truth. Also, generally speaking, Shepard's personal crap shouldn't be thrown in with the mission. (EG: Shep is  busy checking out ____ or worrying about ___ and almost gets shot)

I've read a few Shepards that treated the Normandy like highschool, and I've also read Shepards that you can't figure out. Sometimes I find myself asking, "But who is this person? Why are they in love? What do they feel about _____?"

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

And those are very valid thoughts.   The only Shepard I can totally enjoy being unprofessional is your Parallax Shepard, Fort.  She's hysterical to the point of parody and I love it.

Meghan kept her boundaries up with the crew, but was a mite less formal with the groud team and even less so with Kaidan. 

I like to know about others' Shepards, but really... there are some things Shepard cannot do.

Lol. I think the next chapter of Parallax is going to give some people whiplash. She's like the Mrs. Potatohead Shepard... snapping on disguises to suit her mood.

Agreed about some Shepards crossing the lines... like sitting in their quarters all day crying??? I've seen that before.

About 2 years back, I took a creative writing class. One thing the prof told us is that writing is a series of lies. You can lie to people about anything, you just have to make it a convincing lie.  I have fun seeing how much I can get away with in fanfic. Apparently, it's quite a bit

I actually have a degree in it.  Which means I'm a very accomplished liar. 

The problem with fanfic is that it IS for entertainment value only.  While that's all well and good, I see no reason why you can't write it well and accurately and not turn Kaidan into a whiny wuss.

[fortunesque]

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Re: Shepards
It's tough to keep a balance of making Shepard human/normal yet keeping that commanderly aura. One rule that I try to keep is that not everyone should know Shepard's exact business, and maybe only one of the crew (the LI) knows the truth. Also, generally speaking, Shepard's personal crap shouldn't be thrown in with the mission. (EG: Shep is  busy checking out ____ or worrying about ___ and almost gets shot)

I've read a few Shepards that treated the Normandy like highschool, and I've also read Shepards that you can't figure out. Sometimes I find myself asking, "But who is this person? Why are they in love? What do they feel about _____?"

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

And those are very valid thoughts.   The only Shepard I can totally enjoy being unprofessional is your Parallax Shepard, Fort.  She's hysterical to the point of parody and I love it.

Meghan kept her boundaries up with the crew, but was a mite less formal with the groud team and even less so with Kaidan. 

I like to know about others' Shepards, but really... there are some things Shepard cannot do.

Lol. I think the next chapter of Parallax is going to give some people whiplash. She's like the Mrs. Potatohead Shepard... snapping on disguises to suit her mood.

Agreed about some Shepards crossing the lines... like sitting in their quarters all day crying??? I've seen that before.

About 2 years back, I took a creative writing class. One thing the prof told us is that writing is a series of lies. You can lie to people about anything, you just have to make it a convincing lie.  I have fun seeing how much I can get away with in fanfic. Apparently, it's quite a bit

I actually have a degree in it.  Which means I'm a very accomplished liar. 

The problem with fanfic is that it IS for entertainment value only.  While that's all well and good, I see no reason why you can't write it well and accurately and not turn Kaidan into a whiny wuss.

You're a creative writing major? Sweet

True indeed. Character integrity is the most important thing. A character like Shepard has more wiggle-room (practically an OC), but the environment and characters need to react properly to the OC. If I decide to have Faith Shepard running around naked, I wouldn't expect Ashley to be strangely attracted to her, nor would I expect Liara to be appalled or Kaidan/Garrus/even Joker to be like, "Heeeeeyyy dat asssss"

[Sialater]

fortunesque wrote...

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Sialater wrote...

fortunesque wrote...

Re: Shepards
It's tough to keep a balance of making Shepard human/normal yet keeping that commanderly aura. One rule that I try to keep is that not everyone should know Shepard's exact business, and maybe only one of the crew (the LI) knows the truth. Also, generally speaking, Shepard's personal crap shouldn't be thrown in with the mission. (EG: Shep is  busy checking out ____ or worrying about ___ and almost gets shot)

I've read a few Shepards that treated the Normandy like highschool, and I've also read Shepards that you can't figure out. Sometimes I find myself asking, "But who is this person? Why are they in love? What do they feel about _____?"

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

And those are very valid thoughts.   The only Shepard I can totally enjoy being unprofessional is your Parallax Shepard, Fort.  She's hysterical to the point of parody and I love it.

Meghan kept her boundaries up with the crew, but was a mite less formal with the groud team and even less so with Kaidan. 

I like to know about others' Shepards, but really... there are some things Shepard cannot do.

Lol. I think the next chapter of Parallax is going to give some people whiplash. She's like the Mrs. Potatohead Shepard... snapping on disguises to suit her mood.

Agreed about some Shepards crossing the lines... like sitting in their quarters all day crying??? I've seen that before.

About 2 years back, I took a creative writing class. One thing the prof told us is that writing is a series of lies. You can lie to people about anything, you just have to make it a convincing lie.  I have fun seeing how much I can get away with in fanfic. Apparently, it's quite a bit

I actually have a degree in it.  Which means I'm a very accomplished liar. 

The problem with fanfic is that it IS for entertainment value only.  While that's all well and good, I see no reason why you can't write it well and accurately and not turn Kaidan into a whiny wuss.

You're a creative writing major? Sweet

True indeed. Character integrity is the most important thing. A character like Shepard has more wiggle-room (practically an OC), but the environment and characters need to react properly to the OC. If I decide to have Faith Shepard running around naked, I wouldn't expect Ashley to be strangely attracted to her, nor would I expect Liara to be appalled or Kaidan/Garrus/even Joker to be like, "Heeeeeyyy dat asssss"

Yep.  I'm uniquely qualified to ask, "Would you like fries with that?"

Character integrity is intrinsic to all writing, even if it's your original character.  Same goes for world building.  If you're going to have biotics, you have to tell people how and why throwing people around a room is a justifyable thing. 

[sagefic]

Brijenieve wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Haha! that was faaaantastic. I'll probably picture that everytime I start a new playthrough. 

TY! that was my short dive into fanfic. i remember 1st playthrough of ME1, i thought, huh? this random dude that was at the controls at the beginning is the LI? poor kaiden didn't get much of an introduction. no fancy run in and shoot like ashley, no sniping baddies (in both MEs) like garrus. just - there. no wonder so many people overlook him! i did always wonder what their first meeting was like though - kaiden and shep, i mean.

epoch_ wrote...

wanted to share this adorable ashley pic I took with the kaidan thread

love this, btw. the entire ashley/kaiden romance is just awesome. want to see payoff in ME3 please! (translation, payoff means reunion, possible angst for a while, but must have big nookie scene!)

[Sialater]

sagequeen wrote...

Brijenieve wrote...

sagequeen wrote...

Haha! that was faaaantastic. I'll probably picture that everytime I start a new playthrough. 

TY! that was my short dive into fanfic. i remember 1st playthrough of ME1, i thought, huh? this random dude that was at the controls at the beginning is the LI? poor kaiden didn't get much of an introduction. no fancy run in and shoot like ashley, no sniping baddies (in both MEs) like garrus. just - there. no wonder so many people overlook him! i did always wonder what their first meeting was like though - kaiden and shep, i mean.

epoch_ wrote...

wanted to share this adorable ashley pic I took with the kaidan thread

love this, btw. the entire ashley/kaiden romance is just awesome. want to see payoff in ME3 please! (translation, payoff means reunion, possible angst for a while, but must have big nookie scene!)

Yeah, but do we really such a grand entrance?  And yes, we require a payoff, darnit!

[The Angry One]

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.

Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

[fortunesque]

The Angry One wrote...

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.
Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

I've had the same feeling too. Either it'll be us or itll be the Liara fans. One romance is going to end really poorly because they just have to inject tragedy into everything.

[Sialater]

The Angry One wrote...

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.
Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

How do you mean?

[The Angry One]

Sialater wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.
Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

How do you mean?

Well like fort said, because they'll just have to put in some big tragedy.
Making Ash/Kai or Liara the antagonist (which wouldn't work even from a purely unbiased standpoint IMO) or some other means to make sure we either see very little of them or they'll make us wish we saw very little.

[sapphyreelf]

The Angry One wrote...

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.
Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

After my ending I got in the last BW game installment, I've had a fairly pessismitic view of things to come, but I'm trying to let the positivenenss of the thread see me through.

[Jhourney]

fortunesque wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.
Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

I've had the same feeling too. Either it'll be us or itll be the Liara fans. One romance is going to end really poorly because they just have to inject tragedy into everything.

We all think this way at one point, because there's so little to go on and it'll be a long time since we'll know more (unless the countdown is Kaidan related). I just like to remind myself about the Indiana Jones quote from Bioware, when I feel that way. It does work, though that little black cloud never fully leaves me. Not until we know more anyway.

Okay back to the madness that is today for me. Maybe till later.

[fortunesque]

The Angry One wrote...

Sialater wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

Lately I can't help but feel certain Kaidan/Ashley fans are going to be screwed in the worst way possible in ME3.
Don't mean to be a black cloud on things but.. yeah.

How do you mean?

Well like fort said, because they'll just have to put in some big tragedy.
Making Ash/Kai or Liara the antagonist (which wouldn't work even from a purely unbiased standpoint IMO) or some other means to make sure we either see very little of them or they'll make us wish we saw very little.

I think the ultimate spit in the face they could do would have Ash/Kaidan be a side-agent that doesn't do much more than Anderson does in ME2, and having Liara become the new Shadow Broker once she takes down the real one.

I wonder if they're going to reduce those characters to simply "information npcs" with little dialogue.

[epoch_]

Personally feel Anderson is more likely to betray us. He fits the Bioware standard betrayal model very well.

[fortunesque]

epoch_ wrote...

Personally feel Anderson is more likely to betray us. He fits the Bioware standard betrayal model very well.

I'm not saying they'll betray us... I'm saying that there's a high likelihood that they'll not be squadmates again because **** happens like that

[Sialater]

All we can really do is expect the worst and hope for the best.

[epoch_]

I think they (ash/kaidan and liara) have a better chance at coming back than any of the others.

[Sialater]

fortunesque wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Personally feel Anderson is more likely to betray us. He fits the Bioware standard betrayal model very well.

I'm not saying they'll betray us... I'm saying that there's a high likelihood that they'll not be squadmates again because **** happens like that

So far, they haven't said whether we'll even HAVE squad mates at all.

[epoch_]

But, I'm just going to assume she's not so that I won't be disappointed when she isn't. And thrilled if she does.

[The Angry One]

Yeah I try to keep a positive attitude usually.
Sometimes bleakness sets in though, like now. It's nice to be among fellow supporters here though.

fortunesque wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Personally feel Anderson is more likely to betray us. He fits the Bioware standard betrayal model very well.

I'm not saying they'll betray us... I'm saying that there's a high likelihood that they'll not be squadmates again because **** happens like that

My feeling is they'll betray us, or be insignificant.
Or betray us and be insignificant.

[fortunesque]

Right now I'm having a, "We got shafted once, they'll do it again because they only care about the Talimob" moment.

[epoch_]

The Angry One wrote...

Yeah I try to keep a positive attitude usually.
Sometimes bleakness sets in though, like now. It's nice to be among fellow supporters here though.

fortunesque wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Personally feel Anderson is more likely to betray us. He fits the Bioware standard betrayal model very well.

I'm not saying they'll betray us... I'm saying that there's a high likelihood that they'll not be squadmates again because **** happens like that

My feeling is they'll betray us, or be insignificant.
Or betray us and be insignificant.

They're not going to have a LI betray shepard. I don't even think they're going to kill of thane.

[RyrineaNara]

They did say they wanted to keep them alive, because they are impotent to the role of ME3. Here hoping they don't pull the betray us line for Ash/Kaidan that would be heart breaking for my Shepard.

[sapphyreelf]

I'm getting over my Revan moment angst that has plagued me since Friday at least. And I'm with Sia in the "expect the worst but hope for the best" mentality. If I go in with low enough expectations then it won't be so bad (which is how I approach most movies I get subjected to). Just trying to figure out what would be the worst case scenario with Kaidan is horrible because there is s much that they could do to him that would be truly distressing.

[archonambroseus]

I'm still trying to comprehend how so many people take "we kept their role to a minimum because they're too important to ME3 to be squadmates" as "we kept their role to a minimum to ****** off our fanbase because we're an evil corporation and we're going to do the same thing in ME3 because we're an evil corporation."