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[oreolover15]

My husband was talking to someone in his class today and he said they were talking about different video games. Anyway, the person said he'd heard that DA:O was a "girl" game. He asked me if that's what I had heard. I told him that I hear a lot of girls talking about it but that's just because they are all Kaidan fans and the only link to my gaming knowledge. So ... is DA:O what would be considered a "girl" game? I don't actually even know what a "girl" game is, but maybe some of you have an idea?



Yes, this is pseudo off topic but it's bugging me now.

[crimsonrhodelia]

Night, my friends, and good morning to the other time zone people.

[sesheta255]

Afternoon all, I only have about 3 hours of peace left before the teens return, damn

@crimson -night, sweet dreams

@oreolover - I don't think its a girls game, there seem to be plenty of guys on these forums that play it & enjoy it. thats as bad as saying ME is a boys game, lol. I can only go on the reactions of my teen boys in RL. One of my teens played it through once & didn't like it, he said there was too much talking (obviously he's not into rpgs, lol). The other one liked it but he tends to play pretty much everything.

[oreolover15]

@Sesheta ... Thanks. That is kind of what I was thinking but I never know when my thoughts are way out in left field or when they are actually worthwhile and plausible to the matter at hand

And as a reward for humoring me:

[sesheta255]

Ooooh, thats the sort of reward I really really like.

and something totally random : I've been going through a darren Hayes/Savage Garden phase over the last few days and this song (& so many others) seems to talk to me in terms of sort of Shenko/Horizon:
Words :

Modifié par sesheta255, 06 avril 2010 - 05:44 .

[BloodyTemplar]

Hey - I'll probably post this again when fort is around, but does anybody have any ideas on how to actually make an Alliance uniform or crew shirt? Mrs T is going to have wicked awesome N7 armor to wear to Dragon*Con, and I *could* get them to make me some Kaidan armor, but I really don't want to go through all the expense and trouble of getting it fitted and everything. So I'm looking for alternative ideas.



Also, it's ridiculously hard to find good reference shots of Alliance uniforms and crew shirts. Anybody have some I can borrow???



Thanks!

[BECC4]

@Oreolover, I've never heard DA:O described as a girls game, not even close if anything the splatter and swords and generally dark violent story would suggest to me a boys game. In fact away from these forums I don't know a single girl who plays it.



I wouldn't say dialogue = girls game but dunno

[sesheta255]

BECC4 wrote...

@Oreolover, I've never heard DA:O described as a girls game, not even close if anything the splatter and swords and generally dark violent story would suggest to me a boys game. In fact away from these forums I don't know a single girl who plays it.

I wouldn't say dialogue = girls game but dunno

You're right Becc dialogue doesn't equate to it being a girls game.  Unfortunately some guys aren't happy unless they can shoot things & blow stuff up - makes them feel more manly I guess, lol

[BECC4]

God I'm ruined I just giggled at 'shoot things'!

[sesheta255]

BECC4 wrote...

God I'm ruined I just giggled at 'shoot things'!

and I wasn't even thinking gutter when I wrote that, lol

[Nightodie]

Just sitting here in the Comm center - not too busy tonight - status units - answer phone - give out call- run vehicle- it's a good night! 

[instantdeath999]

BECC4 wrote...

@Oreolover, I've never heard DA:O described as a girls game, not even close if anything the splatter and swords and generally dark violent story would suggest to me a boys game. In fact away from these forums I don't know a single girl who plays it.

I wouldn't say dialogue = girls game but dunno

If liking dialogue is effeminate, I'm flamboyantly homosexual... that's definitely one I've never heard before. 

From what I've seen, Kaidan doesn't seem to be very well liked.  I'm the only one I know who actually saves him over Ashley on my main file (who is a male).  He just seems so much more bitter at the confrontation, that it makes a much better scene. 

[taigin]

Good Morning everyone.



Personally I don't see DAO as a girls- game. I don't see what could be so "girly" about it, so I would need some type of definition of what girls-game means. Does it mean you can change outfits, romance and talk with your companions? I would feel quite insulted to call it a girls-game since it's typical RPG. RPG's have a long history and have largely been dominated by the male demography, as with most games. What I feel with DAO is that it has started to aim itself towards the female demography in a better way then before (there are RPG's with only a male protagonists). So if DAO is something it's equal.



I would love for more females to get into the RPG genre. It would create more incentives for the gaming companies to design the games around their female demography (well designed female protagonist, well designed romances etcetc). What I would hate would be starting to design the game in a stereotyphic way "omg we need more female gamers, lets include pink dresses, fluffy pets, and you favorite coffee shop".



@Sesheta. Haha I had similiar reaction from my teenage brother. He got bored with ME because they talked too much. He also tried out Fallout3 and couldn't understand how to disarm the bomb and everyone hated him for shooting someone in town, because he didn't bother to read the dialogues :X

[Never]

taigin wrote...

Good Morning everyone.

Personally I don't see DAO as a girls- game. I don't see what could be so "girly" about it, so I would need some type of definition of what girls-game means. Does it mean you can change outfits, romance and talk with your companions? I would feel quite insulted to call it a girls-game since it's typical RPG. RPG's have a long history and have largely been dominated by the male demography, as with most games. What I feel with DAO is that it has started to aim itself towards the female demography in a better way then before (there are RPG's with only a male protagonists). So if DAO is something it's equal.

I would love for more females to get into the RPG genre. It would create more incentives for the gaming companies to design the games around their female demography (well designed female protagonist, well designed romances etcetc). What I would hate would be starting to design the game in a stereotyphic way "omg we need more female gamers, lets include pink dresses, fluffy pets, and you favorite coffee shop".

@Sesheta. Haha I had similiar reaction from my teenage brother. He got bored with ME because they talked too much. He also tried out Fallout3 and couldn't understand how to disarm the bomb and everyone hated him for shooting someone in town, because he didn't bother to read the dialogues :X

My hubby is the same way.  I think that's probably what those guys meant by "girl game".  It's ridiculous, but at the same time, I think it'd be easier to get a girl into gaming with an rpg, than say, an fps.  I don't really know any other female gamers though   IRL, that is.

[instantdeath999]

Would it be stereotypical of me to say that most games are "guy" games by default? Where I live, a girl liking a video game is almost something they think is worth hiding, the way a person might not come right out and say that they are an atheist, that they're gay, or in high school, sadly enough, that they've actually read a book in the last year.

I don't get it, myself, since I see games as really just another form of entertainment, like film or music or whatever, but it seems a lot of people stay away from certain games as to not be branded a nerd or whatever. I guess a lot of people are too self conscious for their own good.

Then again, I do live in about the worst possible State, so my experience with this kinda thing is probably worse than it could be.

Modifié par instantdeath999, 06 avril 2010 - 08:01 .

[sesheta255]

@Nightodie - *waves* glad you're having a quiet night in your line of work.
@instantdeath999 - unfortunately too many shallow minded people hate Kaidan "because he sounds like Carth" who they consider to be whiny so they never gave him a chance. He is actually an awesome squad member but too many people never bothered to level him up properly or talk to him. I'm biased I kow but it actually makes more sense to save him on Virmire (apologies to the Ash fans) because in the scheme of things he is more important to the alliance than Ash.
@taigin - they probably regard it as a girls game because the female warden doesn't run around half naked in ridiculous so called "armour", lol

LMAO - the teens just arrived home & saw my desktop (the fab 3)
eldest teen : Oh my god, you have sunk to the lowest depths of moral depravity
youngest teen : they're all gay you know. they're all standing 1/2 naked with each other

Modifié par sesheta255, 06 avril 2010 - 08:02 .

[instantdeath999]

I liked Carth, personally.



I can see a reason for "killing" either one, honestly... you've already summed up the reasons for saving Kaidan, though he also seems a lot more willing to die than Ashley. Plus, it seems like Ashley has much more family, and Kaidan has those constant headaches.



I still prefer having Ashley die, though, mostly because I think Kaidan is a better character.

[sesheta255]

mynameisdanza wrote...

My hubby is the same way.  I think that's probably what those guys meant by "girl game".  It's ridiculous, but at the same time, I think it'd be easier to get a girl into gaming with an rpg, than say, an fps.  I don't really know any other female gamers though   IRL, that is.

I have to say that I hate fps (but thats probably because I suck at shooting, lol), which is what the teens mostly play, although the youngest one will play rpg's.  I don't really know any girl gamers except my younger sister but she is more into MMO's like WoW & Aion rather than single player games.

[Never]

I'm terrible with fps as well. I took a big gamble when I bought ME1, I figured that I'd hate it and my hubby would play. He likes more of the sci-fi stuff. But he hasn't gotten past the first missions in 1 or 2!



For me, the combat really isn't all that important as I tend to play on normal or easy. I just love a good story. Oh and making characters >.>

[taigin]

instantdeath999 wrote...

Would it be stereotypical of me to say that most games are "guy" games by default? Where I live, a girl liking a video game is almost something they think is worth hiding, the way a person might not come right out and say that they are an atheist, that they're gay, or in high school, sadly enough, that they've actually read a book in the last year.

I don't get it, myself, since I see games as really just another form of entertainment, like film or music or whatever, but it seems a lot of people stay away from certain games as to not be branded a nerd or whatever. I guess a lot of people are too self conscious for their own good.

Then again, I do live in about the worst possible State, so my experience with this kinda thing is probably worse than it could be.

Historically no, it woulnd't be stereotypical. Games have been dominated by male game developers and a male player base. Even when there have been a female protagonist she's been created to be nice to look at (Lara Croft anyone?). The last couple of years it have started to change though. They are creating stereotypical female games (sims, hang out with your friends in city type of games, groom your pet). Many RPG's have put more effort into appealing more to their female demography. I think both ME and DAo does this in a good way.

And no I wouldn't agree that Kaidan was more willing to die. Ashley wanted to redeem her familys reputation and a good way would be to die a hero for a good cause.

[sesheta255]

I usually start off on casual & work my way up, I guess I like rpg's for the character creation and story too rather than the shooting probably why I prefer ME to ME2. Although I have to admit that depending on my mood, sometimes it just feels good to kill things, lol.

[Never]

Lol, it sure does. I have to admit, I pvp'd a whole hell of a lot when I was preggers with my first kid. It was a nice anger release... *POOF* stabstabstab *POOF*

[instantdeath999]

taigin wrote...

instantdeath999 wrote...

Would it be stereotypical of me to say that most games are "guy" games by default? Where I live, a girl liking a video game is almost something they think is worth hiding, the way a person might not come right out and say that they are an atheist, that they're gay, or in high school, sadly enough, that they've actually read a book in the last year.

I don't get it, myself, since I see games as really just another form of entertainment, like film or music or whatever, but it seems a lot of people stay away from certain games as to not be branded a nerd or whatever. I guess a lot of people are too self conscious for their own good.

Then again, I do live in about the worst possible State, so my experience with this kinda thing is probably worse than it could be.

Historically no, it woulnd't be stereotypical. Games have been dominated by male game developers and a male player base. Even when there have been a female protagonist she's been created to be nice to look at (Lara Croft anyone?). The last couple of years it have started to change though. They are creating stereotypical female games (sims, hang out with your friends in city type of games, groom your pet). Many RPG's have put more effort into appealing more to their female demography. I think both ME and DAo does this in a good way.

And no I wouldn't agree that Kaidan was more willing to die. Ashley wanted to redeem her familys reputation and a good way would be to die a hero for a good cause.

I'm sure games will eventually become as common as film, or, at least I hope so.  Might never quite reach that level, but they are becoming much more universal. 

As for the whole Ashley/Kaidan thing, yeah, I can see your point.  Both have perfectly good reasons to both live and die, though, so there really isn't a wrong choice. 

[taigin]

sesheta255 wrote...

I usually start off on casual & work my way up, I guess I like rpg's for the character creation and story too rather than the shooting probably why I prefer ME to ME2. Although I have to admit that depending on my mood, sometimes it just feels good to kill things, lol.

My main love for rpgs is the story, I just love a good story. For me it's an interactive book and i love reading. I also like the character creation and rp aspects of the game. When i was younger i explored more morally corrupt characters always being evil or chaotic. I got tired of the "stupid evil" though. Now when i'm older I've found I have a hard time doing evil things and always end up being paragon/good.

[instantdeath999]

I really like RPG's because they're basically a really good book that you can go through multiple times and change the story. I'm not really big on the stats, loot, and whatever other RPG cliches you can think of. It's why I'll take a game like ME over something like Final Fantasy or Oblivion (both great rpgs, just in a different way).