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Yionel wrote...

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ya did it yourself? Or just a find?

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Nice!

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Head seems too big. Something's a bit wrong with the left hand... nice detail.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Yionel wrote...

ya did it yourself? Or just a find?


Nope..scavenging Deviant art atm

...oh and what happens when you mix two great character togheter..FUN TIMES!!

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Nice!


Bootiful. Taliwub. <3

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And her chest is too small also...

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Again, I would argue with that picture being beatuful.


I regret to inform you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as such you cannot argue against its beauty.  You can merely disagree.  Some (most, it would seem) find the picture quite good.  If you don't, fix it to your liking, or keep mum and let others enjoy it.

I think I said this just after your comment about how little effort the artist took in photoshopping two images together and blending with a brush.  As of this moment, that artist has put forth far more effort, and accomplished far more than you have through trying to diminish his efforts by picking nits.

If you have ideas about how the picture could be made better, by all means get to work!  I'd love to see your incarnation of the idea, some of the suggestions you made (like the transparent Normanndy background) would be great to see.  Talking about the work someone else has done though, with a negative/superior attitude, accomplishes nothing.  It's one thing to say "This is wrong, mistake here, rotate 180 degrees and it'd be better."  It's something else entirely to sit down and roll up your sleeves, fix the problem, correct the mistake and rotate the 180 degrees.

In fewer words: put up or shut up.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

And her chest is too small also...


Tali:perv....

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

And her chest is too small also...


My good man - artistic criticism in response to work featured in this way should not require two posts. Shame upon your name and house.

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Terrorfex wrote...

valttu wrote...

Yionel wrote...

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Nice!


Bootiful. Taliwub. <3



<3

Like the way the artist accomplished to bring her sweetness in this picture, with the pose and all of that.

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Again, I would argue with that picture being beatuful.


I regret to inform you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as such you cannot argue against its beauty.  You can merely disagree.  Some (most, it would seem) find the picture quite good.  If you don't, fix it to your liking, or keep mum and let others enjoy it.

I think I said this just after your comment about how little effort the artist took in photoshopping two images together and blending with a brush.  As of this moment, that artist has put forth far more effort, and accomplished far more than you have through trying to diminish his efforts by picking nits.

If you have ideas about how the picture could be made better, by all means get to work!  I'd love to see your incarnation of the idea, some of the suggestions you made (like the transparent Normanndy background) would be great to see.  Talking about the work someone else has done though, with a negative/superior attitude, accomplishes nothing.  It's one thing to say "This is wrong, mistake here, rotate 180 degrees and it'd be better."  It's something else entirely to sit down and roll up your sleeves, fix the problem, correct the mistake and rotate the 180 degrees.

In fewer words: put up or shut up.

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.

Terrorfex wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

And her chest is too small also...


My good man - artistic criticism in response to work featured in this way should not require two posts. Shame upon your name and house.

Martin seems a nice name to me and my house rejected me long ago...

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 01 mars 2010 - 02:50 .


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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Roninraver wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Again, I would argue with that picture being beatuful.


I regret to inform you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as such you cannot argue against its beauty.  You can merely disagree.  Some (most, it would seem) find the picture quite good.  If you don't, fix it to your liking, or keep mum and let others enjoy it.

I think I said this just after your comment about how little effort the artist took in photoshopping two images together and blending with a brush.  As of this moment, that artist has put forth far more effort, and accomplished far more than you have through trying to diminish his efforts by picking nits.

If you have ideas about how the picture could be made better, by all means get to work!  I'd love to see your incarnation of the idea, some of the suggestions you made (like the transparent Normanndy background) would be great to see.  Talking about the work someone else has done though, with a negative/superior attitude, accomplishes nothing.  It's one thing to say "This is wrong, mistake here, rotate 180 degrees and it'd be better."  It's something else entirely to sit down and roll up your sleeves, fix the problem, correct the mistake and rotate the 180 degrees.

In fewer words: put up or shut up.

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.


Mr. Kusy nailed it with that one. Of couse you cannot argue against beauty, as you mentioned Roninraver.
But you can bring up criticism, or better said feedback, why from your point of view this is not beauty 'cause in your eyes beauty must fulfill XY. You have the right to do that when not saying "you have no clue about beauty, 'cause ...", but Mr. Kusy did nothing like that. So your reaction was a bit strong imo :huh:

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.


Friend of mine who is an artist says:If you cant draw at least bring constructive criticism else your just insulting the artist

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Roninraver wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Again, I would argue with that picture being beatuful.


I regret to inform you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as such you cannot argue against its beauty.  You can merely disagree.  Some (most, it would seem) find the picture quite good.  If you don't, fix it to your liking, or keep mum and let others enjoy it.

I think I said this just after your comment about how little effort the artist took in photoshopping two images together and blending with a brush.  As of this moment, that artist has put forth far more effort, and accomplished far more than you have through trying to diminish his efforts by picking nits.

If you have ideas about how the picture could be made better, by all means get to work!  I'd love to see your incarnation of the idea, some of the suggestions you made (like the transparent Normanndy background) would be great to see.  Talking about the work someone else has done though, with a negative/superior attitude, accomplishes nothing.  It's one thing to say "This is wrong, mistake here, rotate 180 degrees and it'd be better."  It's something else entirely to sit down and roll up your sleeves, fix the problem, correct the mistake and rotate the 180 degrees.

In fewer words: put up or shut up.

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.


There is a subtle difference between "I would argue with that picture being beautiful" and "In my opinion, it's not so beautiful"

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Roninraver wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Again, I would argue with that picture being beatuful.


I regret to inform you that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, as such you cannot argue against its beauty.  You can merely disagree.  Some (most, it would seem) find the picture quite good.  If you don't, fix it to your liking, or keep mum and let others enjoy it.

I think I said this just after your comment about how little effort the artist took in photoshopping two images together and blending with a brush.  As of this moment, that artist has put forth far more effort, and accomplished far more than you have through trying to diminish his efforts by picking nits.

If you have ideas about how the picture could be made better, by all means get to work!  I'd love to see your incarnation of the idea, some of the suggestions you made (like the transparent Normanndy background) would be great to see.  Talking about the work someone else has done though, with a negative/superior attitude, accomplishes nothing.  It's one thing to say "This is wrong, mistake here, rotate 180 degrees and it'd be better."  It's something else entirely to sit down and roll up your sleeves, fix the problem, correct the mistake and rotate the 180 degrees.

In fewer words: put up or shut up.

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.



THE FOLLOWING POST IS SERIOUS


There's nothing intrinsically wrong, but I would suggest the manner of your criticism is out of place here. Since you posted another supposed "error", you seem to be giving undue scrutiny to the work with an overly-critical eye. Furthermore, it's polite to compliment the effort before you launch into its limitations.

Cutting the nonsense aside, there is -very- little wrong with that picture, anatomically. I don't agree regarding your points but still, what's the point in constructive criticism if you've actually paid no positives? I see nothing above from you other than criticism.

Kusy - what you've written isn't offensive at all, but what it is, let's both be honest, is the sort of tone and frankness suited to an actual niche graphics thread or forum. To be so frank and forward, without really being solicited for an opinion (I'm sure you know what I mean when I say this) is out of place.

There's nothing wrong with sticking a "Thanks / Good effort / That's cool." 

Pop a platitude in there, old bean.

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Yionel wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.


Friend of mine who is an artist says:If you cant draw at least bring constructive criticism else your just insulting the artist

Nobody sayed I can't draw.

And don't get me wrong - I'm not saying the picture is rubbish. It's really nice. Only thing I find somehow wrong is size of the head and chest - not because I like big boobs - because the proportions are wrong to me. I sayed that the details are nice - they are even more than nice. I'm simply saying that not everything is perfect... and there's always something betwen "this" and "perfect".

Don't attack me just because I don't agree with the ohhhs and aaaahs absolutely every picture is comented with. Maybee I was a little bit to negative - I can't and won't apologise nothing other than that .

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Head seems too big. Something's a bit wrong with the left hand... nice detail.


It's by Lady Owl.

The head may seem "too big" due to the shawl. If you focus just on the actual faceplate/helmet it seems more accurate. I like it.

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http://social.biowar...5244/blog/2962/ Read Survivor's Vigilance Chapters 1and 2

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Yionel wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.


Friend of mine who is an artist says:If you cant draw at least bring constructive criticism else your just insulting the artist

Nobody sayed I can't draw.


Conversely no one said you could either. Put up or shut up essentially.

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The_KFD_Case wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Head seems too big. Something's a bit wrong with the left hand... nice detail.


It's by Lady Owl.

The head may seem "too big" due to the shawl. If you focus just on the actual faceplate/helmet it seems more accurate. I like it.


Thought exactly the same, without the shawl proportions are just fine.

So, I need to hurry, my pizza is waiting for me :o

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sm00thie88 wrote...

The_KFD_Case wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Head seems too big. Something's a bit wrong with the left hand... nice detail.


It's by Lady Owl.

The head may seem "too big" due to the shawl. If you focus just on the actual faceplate/helmet it seems more accurate. I like it.


Thought exactly the same, without the shawl proportions are just fine.

So, I need to hurry, my pizza is waiting for me :o


Enjoy! :)

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Again... what's with the "Put up or shut up" approach?

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Finally finished my fem shepard playthorugh (Soldier:Neural Shock:Romanced Thane) fastes playthrough i ever did since i skipped most conversations

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Mr.Kusy wrote...
I'm merely saying what I think about a picture, I know this is no graphics board, but I see nothing wrong in saying what I think about it. Why the attitude of "shuting up?" I'm not being impolite (well most of the time), I'm not saying everythign sucks, I'm not saying that I would do better - I'm only saying what seems wrong to me. I see at least exacly the same ammount of constructive dialogue in pointing some mistakes as in saying that everything is awesome, rocks and is beautifull just because there's Tali in it. Everyone have a right to say something - I'm using that right.


It's quite possible I'm reading too much into your critiques.  However, given your responses to date, including how you handled a compliment I gave you on first entering the thread, I find it doubtful.

You just have this... aura of negativity about you.  Quick to pick nits and respond defensively to things, even if no offense could be reasonably assumed from what it is you're defending yourself against.

But dealing specifically with the critiques of artwork in the thread:  this is like a free lunch.  We've done no work, and are getting free images here.  Someone was struck by a creative bolt and sat down to cobble together a tribute to Tali/the Mass Effect universe, and these artworks are presented here, to us, for free.  The natural/accepted response to someone giving you something for free is "Thank you."
The accepted response is not "Well, this was a pretty good free lunch, but you know what would have made this free lunch better?  More mustard."

Responses like that kill artists desire to create, and thus remove the free lunches.  Threaten to take away my free lunch, and you will pull back a bloody stump!:devil:

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Again... what's with the "Put up or shut up" approach?


Some people think if you cant back up your words..then your words are just hot air

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