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[Divulse456]

Lareit wrote...

True story, due to hitstun vanguard would beat every other class in the game due to the fact Charge can be activated through during the half a second window that you are invulnerable to the next hitstun.

Vanguards are immune to being swarmed by Husks

Thus a vanguard would charge a soldier/infi/sent/engine/adept,staggering them
then melee spam keeping the other one locked in stagger and win

The range on Charge is 40m.  The range on the Widow is ???.  Boom, headshot.    But seriously, BioWare does such an awesome job with allowing every player to play their own game.  Best RPG company currently IMO.

[Jake71887]

Lareit wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Generally, saying people look anything but human is an insult 

Well he's a chrome dome and has a beard, two things I avoid in chrs I play(except in KOTOR, all those faces sucked so I went with the asian guy with the horrible goatee) but he looks human and well formed.

Chrome dome and beard... sounds like me 70% of the time... wonder why 

[Lareit]

Divulse456 wrote...

Lareit wrote...

True story, due to hitstun vanguard would beat every other class in the game due to the fact Charge can be activated through during the half a second window that you are invulnerable to the next hitstun.

Vanguards are immune to being swarmed by Husks

Thus a vanguard would charge a soldier/infi/sent/engine/adept,staggering them
then melee spam keeping the other one locked in stagger and win

The range on Charge is 40m.  The range on the Widow is ???.  Boom, headshot.    But seriously, BioWare does such an awesome job with allowing every player to play their own game.  Best RPG company currently IMO.

Shepard can't lose health for 2 seconds after his shields drop.

Shepard can't be 1 shot.

Shepard also can't be hit while in cover unless flanked by 180% degree.

[RevanKun123]

Jake71887 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

LORNE ! It's you !  (From neverwinter nights 2)
He looks like an grumpy egg.

Never played NWN 1 or 2... 

And he's not grumpy, he has his sly smile on, and sounds like Zaeed... 

Okay but he still look like an egg.

No need to be insulting 

I am not insulting him.
There is nothing wrong with someone who look like an egg.

Generally, saying people look anything but human is an insult 

There are worse things than being compared with an egg.

[Lareit]

Jake71887 wrote...



Chrome dome and beard... sounds like me 70% of the time... wonder why 

If this is a reference to firemen and clams

I didn't get it.

[apotheosic]

Aardvark-8 wrote...

Repeat what you said about my testes and you may find yourself flying uncontrolably backwards, getting pumped full of flaming shotgun shells mister

Tech is better suited for girls and aliens, but biotics is THE manly sport

The default Shepard has too little hair on the back of his neck, thus seeming far too brutish and soldierlike for my tastes. I prefer a charismatic, kind and handsome face I put a great deal of effort and time to creating.

dont be hatin' yo. infiltrator is where it's at.
cant set people on fire with biotics. and EVERYTHING is better with fire.

my 'canon' shepard is a ruthless colonist infiltrator, who started the series paragade, but is changing his outlook as the adventure unfolds, and leaning more paragon.
he's not that great-looking, because i am not very good with making decent looking characters. but really, in my opinion, anything looks better than sheploo.

sure soldier's fine if you want to go in guns blazing and balst everything to bits, but my shepard prefers a more tactical approach; undermining the enemies defenses and then picking them off before they even realize they are under attack.

[BigKahuna25]

aw, maaaaan! I missed it! DAMN my biological need for sleep.

[Jake71887]

Lareit wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...



Chrome dome and beard... sounds like me 70% of the time... wonder why 

If this is a reference to firemen and clams

I didn't get it.

Me either 

[Divulse456]

Lareit wrote...

Shepard can't lose health for 2 seconds after his shields drop.

Shepard can't be 1 shot.

Shepard also can't be hit while in cover unless flanked by 180% degree.

1 shots happen on Insanity from time to time early on.    Make me cry, but I only play on Insanity.  Reminds me of GOW2 sometimes, super fun.  I played through once as a Sentinel, and the power armor was nice at the beginning. 

But about cover, you can stay there as long as you want, the Widow is very patient.

[RevanKun123]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

aw, maaaaan! I missed it! DAMN my biological need for sleep.

Greeting BigKahuna25.

[Lareit]

apotheosic wrote...

Aardvark-8 wrote...

Repeat what you said about my testes and you may find yourself flying uncontrolably backwards, getting pumped full of flaming shotgun shells mister

Tech is better suited for girls and aliens, but biotics is THE manly sport

The default Shepard has too little hair on the back of his neck, thus seeming far too brutish and soldierlike for my tastes. I prefer a charismatic, kind and handsome face I put a great deal of effort and time to creating.

dont be hatin' yo. infiltrator is where it's at.
cant set people on fire with biotics. and EVERYTHING is better with fire.

my 'canon' shepard is a ruthless colonist infiltrator, who started the series paragade, but is changing his outlook as the adventure unfolds, and leaning more paragon.
he's not that great-looking, because i am not very good with making decent looking characters. but really, in my opinion, anything looks better than sheploo.

sure soldier's fine if you want to go in guns blazing and balst everything to bits, but my shepard prefers a more tactical approach; undermining the enemies defenses and then picking them off before they even realize they are under attack.

The reason I don't like the infiltrator concept(not to play, they're fun to play) for shepard is it relies too much on other people taking the brunt of the assault.

Too much in the back not takng any real risk. Like snipers in TF2....**** SNIPERS in TF2.

[BigKahuna25]

hello revan

[Divulse456]

apotheosic wrote...

dont be hatin' yo. infiltrator is where it's at.
cant set people on fire with biotics. and EVERYTHING is better with fire.

my 'canon' shepard is a ruthless colonist infiltrator, who started the series paragade, but is changing his outlook as the adventure unfolds, and leaning more paragon.
he's not that great-looking, because i am not very good with making decent looking characters. but really, in my opinion, anything looks better than sheploo.

sure soldier's fine if you want to go in guns blazing and balst everything to bits, but my shepard prefers a more tactical approach; undermining the enemies defenses and then picking them off before they even realize they are under attack.

I love the ME2 improvements on this.  Using squad tactics is a breeze.  My Shep DOES go in guns blazing.  It's part of a tactical approach with 3 team members who all have different skills. 

Modifié par Divulse456, 03 mars 2010 - 02:28 .

[Lareit]

Divulse456 wrote...

Lareit wrote...

Shepard can't lose health for 2 seconds after his shields drop.

Shepard can't be 1 shot.

Shepard also can't be hit while in cover unless flanked by 180% degree.

1 shots happen on Insanity from time to time early on.    Make me cry, but I only play on Insanity.  Reminds me of GOW2 sometimes, super fun.  I played through once as a Sentinel, and the power armor was nice at the beginning. 

But about cover, you can stay there as long as you want, the Widow is very patient.

No. You can not be 1 shot.

The game does not allow it. If you have even 1 hp of shield strength left, then as soon as it gets hit you are invulnerable for nearly 2 seoncds(less then that, but more then 1 second)

It's VERY easy to test.
Just stand infront of a Ymir while it auto cannons you. Your shield drops, then your take no damage for a little over a second, then you start to die again.

You can also melee exploding canisters and you will never lose health if you had any shield strength left.

It's a game mechanic designed to keep shepard from getting instagibbed if he pokes his head out at bad times. It still exists and it's one of the reasons vanguard would win 1v1 fights with other shepards. Each charge refreshes shield, which means more invulnerability.

[RevanKun123]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

hello revan

As you can see they have begin the debate about "which class is better or fun to play".

[nitefyre410]

more tali art work   

Edit: OH F*ck it  i am not in the mood to fight with HTML today  here is the link to the artist Deviantart page  ikoru-shirou.deviantart.com/art/Tali-155475456

Modifié par nitefyre410, 03 mars 2010 - 02:32 .

[Divulse456]

Lareit wrote...

No. You can not be 1 shot.

The game does not allow it. If you have even 1 hp of shield strength left, then as soon as it gets hit you are invulnerable for nearly 2 seoncds(less then that, but more then 1 second)

It's VERY easy to test.
Just stand infront of a Ymir while it auto cannons you. Your shield drops, then your take no damage for a little over a second, then you start to die again.

You can also melee exploding canisters and you will never lose health if you had any shield strength left.

It's a game mechanic designed to keep shepard from getting instagibbed if he pokes his head out at bad times. It still exists and it's one of the reasons vanguard would win 1v1 fights with other shepards. Each charge refreshes shield, which means more invulnerability.

So, basically what your saying is the Vanguard is stronger because it relies on a game mechanic that was designed to make the game easier?

[apotheosic]

Lareit wrote...

apotheosic wrote...

dont be hatin' yo. infiltrator is where it's at.
cant set people on fire with biotics. and EVERYTHING is better with fire.

my 'canon' shepard is a ruthless colonist infiltrator, who started the series paragade, but is changing his outlook as the adventure unfolds, and leaning more paragon.
he's not that great-looking, because i am not very good with making decent looking characters. but really, in my opinion, anything looks better than sheploo.

sure soldier's fine if you want to go in guns blazing and balst everything to bits, but my shepard prefers a more tactical approach; undermining the enemies defenses and then picking them off before they even realize they are under attack.

The reason I don't like the infiltrator concept(not to play, they're fun to play) for shepard is it relies too much on other people taking the brunt of the assault.

Too much in the back not takng any real risk. Like snipers in TF2....**** SNIPERS in TF2.

i dunno. if i were commander shepard, and i knew i was the galaxy's only hope for salvation (other than tali of course...) i dont think i would want to put myself in any more danger than strictly necessary.
and as an infiltrator my squad is perfectly safe because i give them covering fire.

and my squad is very often me, garrus/thane, and legion (on the rare instance i dont take tali on a mission). so we can generally take the enemy by surprise and snipe them all out before they get anywhere near us.
once again, the less risk the squad that the galaxy is relying on has to go through, the better.

not that i dont see the practicality of the other classes, i just happen to love infiltrator.

[Lareit]

Divulse456 wrote...



So, basically what your saying is the Vanguard is stronger because it relies on a game mechanic that was designed to make the game easier?

For in game duels. Yes.

For "if this was real life" infil would win easily. Cloak is too good.

vanguard would be second. Teleportation is too good

[Divulse456]

RevanKun123 wrote...

As you can see they have begin the debate about "which class is better or fun to play".

That's what having a well-balanced class system does.  Darn you BioWare for making a good game!  How dare you! 

[BigKahuna25]

well i've had good fun on my soldier and adept insnity runs as well as my very first playthrough as a vanguard on veteran.

[Divulse456]

apotheosic wrote...

i dunno. if i were commander shepard, and i knew i was the galaxy's only hope for salvation (other than tali of course...) i dont think i would want to put myself in any more danger than strictly necessary.
and as an infiltrator my squad is perfectly safe because i give them covering fire.

and my squad is very often me, garrus/thane, and legion (on the rare instance i dont take tali on a mission). so we can generally take the enemy by surprise and snipe them all out before they get anywhere near us.
once again, the less risk the squad that the galaxy is relying on has to go through, the better.

not that i dont see the practicality of the other classes, i just happen to love infiltrator.

I can understand that.  My take on Shep's character is summed up by Miranda when she says he has that "spark" that makes people want to follow him to hell and back.  For me, he's a great leader.  He'll charge in first, but not recklessley.  He relies on and trusts his squadmates.  lol.  I love it when I'm in the mix and things are looking grim and then Garrus' voice comes over the comms: "Firing a high-impact shot!"  Time to duck and cover. 

[BigKahuna25]

i also blew through on casual with a sentinel... havent tried infiltrator or engineer, but i was going to do either inf or van for my next insanity.

[Aardvark-8]

Aye, teleportation is swell. I don't know about infiltrator, I seldom play a sneaky type of character and anyway, biotics are superior to tech in awesomeness for me.

Plus, vanguard can put everyone on fire, he just has to use a shotgun to do it.



Playing soldier would make the game lose much of its appeal as an RPG for me. I like playing shooters, but this can be so much more. What's more fun than sending guys flying all over the place, hopping around the battlefield, scattering husks like leaves with the force of my biotic powers!

Vanguard is not only most awesome, but also a perfectly valid choice for romancing Tali, complementary to her own skills. Perfect pair!



I need to go now. Bye all.

Keep this thread alive, keep the love for Tali coming!

Keelah se'lai

Aardvark

[nitefyre410]

I don't Think i will ever play another class but Vanguard it fits me like good pair of jeans. I took the assault rifle from the Collector Ship to give myself another option for mid range fights