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[Phil725]

Esker02 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

That leaves the whole virus plan, or exterminating the geth from orbit, or some other one sided plan where the geth don't have a chance to fight back.  Those just don't seem like likely options to me.

Why not, exactly? Between Rael's research and Admiral Xen's email building it up, the virus plan actually seems the most likely option to me - more likely to be the "Renegade" path than actually seeing a war break out, IMO.

I guess a virus isn't completely out of the question.  I can't really think of any specifics regarding the research done in ME2, but the overarching theme that I got from all of it was that it wasn't that close to being a viable solution.  With the geth having all of those anti hacking mechanisms and such.

Then again, you do have the option to brainwash the heretic geth in ME2, I'm not sure the difference between making the geth no longer worship the reapers and making them quarian slaves is though.  And unless I'm missing something, that falls into the Bioware will either say we can or can't camp.

I really don't expect that to be an option in ME3 though.  That would be a pretty kickass virus.  I'm still expecting peace.

[Strawberry Kiwi]

videowiz186 wrote...

Am retiring for night. Even salarians need rest. If only for short time. Read and comment on Part 15 of Salvation or Destruction if haven't already!

Keelah Se'lai, my friends!

Agreed. Gonna head out everyone. Hopefully we're not on 4.0 by the time I come back.

[DreadvasNormandy]

Strawberry Kiwi wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

Am retiring for night. Even salarians need rest. If only for short time. Read and comment on Part 15 of Salvation or Destruction if haven't already!

Keelah Se'lai, my friends!

Agreed. Gonna head out everyone. Hopefully we're not on 4.0 by the time I come back.

Keelah se'lai!

[DirtyVagrant]

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

[DreadvasNormandy]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Thus, ultimately, you understand why her father had to be super secret. Even Tali is slightly torn by the revelation and she can hold herself together pretty well all things considered.

Modifié par DreadvasNormandy, 05 mars 2010 - 06:06 .

[A Blind Bandit]

I think I shall retire for the evening as well. The poker game is looking good so far. I'll update you guys as I go. Keelah Se'lai

[Azint]

Jake71887 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Mass Effect Wiki is your friend 

There's a wiki for every damned thing.

I consider it a good thing, I rarely have to ask for an explanation on anything. Especially pop-culture related 

Information is your weapon.

[MMA7FF]

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Why would you even do that ?
your a dirty vagrant lol

[Azint]

A Blind Bandit wrote...

I think I shall retire for the evening as well. The poker game is looking good so far. I'll update you guys as I go. Keelah Se'lai

Keep up the work.

[cannedcream]

videowiz186 wrote...

Am retiring for night. Even salarians need rest. If only for short time. Read and comment on Part 15 of Salvation or Destruction if haven't already!

Keelah Se'lai, my friends!

Keelah Se'lai.
Long days and pleasent nights.

[chool77]

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Mass Effect Wiki is your friend 

There's a wiki for every damned thing.

I consider it a good thing, I rarely have to ask for an explanation on anything. Especially pop-culture related 

Information is your weapon.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/navy854/thebattle.jpg

Modifié par chool77, 05 mars 2010 - 06:07 .

[Azint]

DreadvasNormandy wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Thus, ultimately, you understand why her father had to be super secret. Even Tali is slightly torn by the revelation and she can hold herself together pretty well all things considered.

Slightly? The girl had full-fledged emotional breakdown.

[Pauravi]

cannedcream wrote...

The problem here is the same with every war: the enemy has been demonized. It's likely that the quarians have been fed propaganda against the Geth all of their lives. Even those who were not born during the Morning War, (or may have never even SEEN a geth) are likly to hate them because no one has ever seen the other side of things.

That was part of my point
I was pointing out that they've been harboring a grudge for 300+ years.  The question is whether they can let it go for long enough to look for and understand the truth of the situation.

The Geth were their creations, their children, and then they started to question themselves they were turned on. The Geth only fought for their right to survive, yet they still understand why they were being destoryed by their creators. Since then they have evolved greatly and are perfectly willing to extend an olive branch.
They are even keeping their creator's homeworld, a world they have NO use for, in working order. Almost as if they're just waiting for their creators to come back home again.

Yes, I personally agree with that assessment, but that isn't really what I meant to ask.
The question isn't about the truth of the situation between the Geth and the Quarians, but actually more about the Quarians attitude.  Will the Quarians discover the nature of the Geth before they decide to attack?  If they do, will they be able to stop hating the Geth for long enough to put down their guns and go back home?

Legion is the only Geth able to speak a language of the quarians, and as he said it was an inofficant way to talk, so if they Geth knew this, then why did they program one of their own to do so? Most likely so that they could somehow find a way to speak with their creators and show that there does not have to be any spilled blood.

Actually, Legion himself says that he is a unique platform created to make contact with Shepard, not the Quarians.  That said, Legion could be instrumental in promoting understanding of the nature of the Geth.

[MMA7FF]

cannedcream wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

Am retiring for night. Even salarians need rest. If only for short time. Read and comment on Part 15 of Salvation or Destruction if haven't already!

Keelah Se'lai, my friends!

Keelah Se'lai.
Long days and pleasent nights.

keelah se'lai

[MMA7FF]

Azint wrote...

A Blind Bandit wrote...

I think I shall retire for the evening as well. The poker game is looking good so far. I'll update you guys as I go. Keelah Se'lai

Keep up the work.

keelah se'lai

[Jake71887]

chool77 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Mass Effect Wiki is your friend 

There's a wiki for every damned thing.

I consider it a good thing, I rarely have to ask for an explanation on anything. Especially pop-culture related 

Information is your weapon.

<i>http://i25.photobuck...4/thebattle.jpg

Less fail 

[cannedcream]

MMA7FF wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Why would you even do that ?
your a dirty vagrant lol

Gah! See, this is why I can never bring myself to play the bad guy in videogames.
I could never bring myself to do something like that.

[MMA7FF]

cannedcream wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Why would you even do that ?
your a dirty vagrant lol

Gah! See, this is why I can never bring myself to play the bad guy in videogames.
I could never bring myself to do something like that.

dude renegade opition doesnt mean you have to turn in the evidence

[Jake71887]

cannedcream wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Why would you even do that ?
your a dirty vagrant lol

Gah! See, this is why I can never bring myself to play the bad guy in videogames.
I could never bring myself to do something like that.

if you have enough renegade points, you don't have tot urn over the evidence.. you basically go around and chew all the admirals out... Just like you want to do in rl 

[Strawberry Kiwi]

cannedcream wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Why would you even do that ?
your a dirty vagrant lol

Gah! See, this is why I can never bring myself to play the bad guy in videogames.
I could never bring myself to do something like that.

I'm quite content with choosing the intimidate option. My first playthrough I didn't have enough renegade for it. I chose the paragon option. (The normal one, not the charm... haven't gotten the urge to try a paragon run yet.)
On that note, I really am leaving now.

Modifié par Strawberry Kiwi, 05 mars 2010 - 06:13 .

[Goat_Shepard]

cannedcream wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

DirtyVagrant wrote...

If you hand over the evidence at Tali's trial then talk to her when you're back on the Normandy, you hear that the evidence is breaking the fleet apart, causing some to break away in favor of war while others want to send efforts of peace for the geth. Needless to say, it drives the Quarians apart.

Why would you even do that ?
your a dirty vagrant lol

Gah! See, this is why I can never bring myself to play the bad guy in videogames.
I could never bring myself to do something like that.

I'm gunna start a FemShep and I'm gunna kill Wrex, Rachni, and screw over everyone and see what happens 

On topic, I love Tali's first conversation after recruiting her, when you hit "investigate" Shepard says "Tell me about the Admiralty Board" then Tali goes off talking about Quarians...reminds me of all our great Quarian discussions in ME1 

[Phil725]

Legion is the only Geth able to speak a language of the quarians, and as he said it was an inofficant way to talk, so if they Geth knew this, then why did they program one of their own to do so? Most likely so that they could somehow find a way to speak with their creators and show that there does not have to be any spilled blood.



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Actually, Legion himself says that he is a unique platform created to make contact with Shepard, not the Quarians. That said, Legion could be instrumental in promoting understanding of the nature of the Geth.

Random question related to the subject. I thought all geth were capable of speaking, they just didn't because its so inefficient when you can communicate at light speed? Legion has the one recording of a geth asking the quarian whether or not it had a soul or something 300 years ago. I don't see why they would remove the ability to communicate with the quarians over time. It would make sense for them to keep communication options open. While they have no intention of messing with organics, surely they have the foresight to know they won't be left alone for eternity.

[chool77]

Jake71887 wrote...

chool77 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Mass Effect Wiki is your friend 

There's a wiki for every damned thing.

I consider it a good thing, I rarely have to ask for an explanation on anything. Especially pop-culture related 

Information is your weapon.

Less fail 

[MMA7FF]

thread seems to slows down about this time of night : /

[Azint]

Admiral Zaal'Koris vas Qub Quib



Hehe, 'vas Iktomi', 'vas Deferenz'