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[MasterMegatron]

Somebody1003 wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

To be clear: I agree with the Illusive Man this time. The Collectors needed to be stopped, and that base would be an extremely useful tool in the coming days. This was one topic I was genuinely torn on. I would have handed the location and all the data I could over to the Council as well, just so Cerberus doesn't get the edge TIM's hoping for. This way, the galaxy would be far better armed than the Reapers would expect, giving us an edge.

So you kept the base?

In my first run (admittedly Renegade) yes. It, to me, is the most logical option.

[Alanosborn1991]

[Alanosborn1991]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...



Mass Effect for Gameboy

[solazz]

Azint wrote...

I'm a bad TIM.

Doesn't help that I don't really agree with him either.

It's ok.  I think I pretty much drove everyone to hate TIM with my terrible impersonation of him.

[Angelraid]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

GMR25 wrote...


Those Quarians are just messed up. Enslaving Synthetics for labor, then trying to kill them off for no good reason.

No one in the Mass effect universe is perfect, the quarians created something that could've rebelled so so save their own species they tried to remove them, unfortunately losing.

Synthetics are not organic life, they don't have the rights or feelings the way we do, I for one an fully behind the Quarians in their decision to remove the geth during the morning war.

The Geth became sentient life.
You would see that they are destroyed because they are synthetic?

Yep, the Quarians took steps to protect their people, the geth were a mistake and needed to be removed, it obviously didn't work but I stand behind their decision

Wow thats like saying black babies are a mistake an need to be removed.

No actually its not, Geth are just machines, not people

So your saying that the geth are sub human? less than people?
Thats exactly how people rationalized slavery. Or how the Taliban justify there terrorism against western cultures.

[NuclearBuddha]

chool77 wrote...

hey guys hows it going??

any thing going on i should know about?

There appear to be two very loud parallel arguments going on:

Is the Illusive Man doing good?
and
Can the quarians be excused for the Morning War?

[Phil725]

[quote]Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

[quote]Phil725 wrote...
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He made shepard in order to have the hero of the galaxy under his arm, he expected shepard to conform. When he didnt (depending on your playthrough) he freacked out and started screaming like a baby for miranda to arrest him or something.

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions." TIM needs to learn this quote.
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For the record, TIM never expected you to conform completely.  He even says as much early in the game.  The only thing he expects of you is that you will do everything in your power to stop the reapers.

Since TIM is the ultimate pragmatist, he sees how he can profit from the collector base.  When you make the decision to destroy it out of spite, risking all of the galaxy, TIM understandably reacts negatively.  Thinking emotionally instead of logically is dangerous with that much on the line.  Is risking the entire galaxy to get back at TIM really a good idea?

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Id buy that if when you talk to TIM he doesnt rage about how he could have used it to conquer the galaxy.

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I make it pretty clear whenever I defend TIM, (which is a lot since everyone hates him...)  that I'm perfectly aware that you would have to fight him later.  The key thing is that he will help you against the reapers more than anyone else in the galaxy until their gone.  I don't see why so many people pass that up.

I feel like people are constantly metagaming this aspect, and have the whole "Bioware will make it possible to defeat the reapers no matter how I act, so I don't have to be pragmatic" view.  Is Cerberus really 1/1000th as big of a threat as the reapers?  TIM's actions after the reapers are gone aren't a huge concern.

[Alanosborn1991]

Fighting Geth in da hoodz with ma mas dog Salarians

[Felipe 058]

Somebody1003 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

The sign pointed to war. The geth were probably going to rebel because they thought they had right, they didn't they were machines. Does your computer have rights? Your car? No, the geth became sentient and the Quarians thought they were going to rebel, so they attempted to remove the problem.

And luckily the Geth won.
The consequenses for the Quarians.
The Geth are now sentient, they do not wish harm upon organics. Qwib Qwib at least has the right idea about the Geth...

Luckily?! They could've wiped the quarians out! I suppose they didn't, so they may have not been trying to, but still, the quarians shouldn't have freaked the frak out.

[MMA7FF]

chool77 wrote...

hey guys hows it going??

any thing going on i should know about?

MASSIVE TIM AND GETH WAR

[Angelraid]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

AWESOME!!!

[knight5923]

MarineBorn wrote...

knight5923 wrote...

p.s. I keep my shield batteries in the front, but I still appreciated the groping;)

*washes hand*

Hey now, Quarian's aren't the only one's looking for a little skin-on-skin:D

[Alanosborn1991]

Valentine card I gave to my Girlfriend

[GMR25]

SirEmilCrane wrote...

GMR25 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

GMR25 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

GMR25 wrote...


Those Quarians are just messed up. Enslaving Synthetics for labor, then trying to kill them off for no good reason.

No one in the Mass effect universe is perfect, the quarians created something that could've rebelled so so save their own species they tried to remove them, unfortunately losing.

Synthetics are not organic life, they don't have the rights or feelings the way we do, I for one an fully behind the Quarians in their decision to remove the geth during the morning war.

Just because they're not organic doesn't mean they don't feel like you and I do.

if you think your car will try to kill you somehow wouldn't you destroy it? Your life is more important than your car which is just a machine

Human automobiles do not contain Artificial Intelligence. In fact, you realize the Quarians were the first ones to attack, not the Geth. Imagine if your parent tried to kill you for a reason you don't understand.

In war you don't always wait for the enemy to strike, sometimes you have to pre-empt the enemy to save lives.

It wasn't a war until the Quarians attacked. The Geth were the true victims.

[Azint]

solazz wrote...

Azint wrote...

I'm a bad TIM.

Doesn't help that I don't really agree with him either.

It's ok.  I think I pretty much drove everyone to hate TIM with my terrible impersonation of him.

Meh, Jake is the TIM on this thread.

I'm only stepping on foreign boundaries.

Modifié par Azint, 06 mars 2010 - 05:33 .

[Alanosborn1991]

Tali meets her cousin Tia from South Migrant Fleet

[SirEmilCrane]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

GMR25 wrote...


Those Quarians are just messed up. Enslaving Synthetics for labor, then trying to kill them off for no good reason.

No one in the Mass effect universe is perfect, the quarians created something that could've rebelled so so save their own species they tried to remove them, unfortunately losing.

Synthetics are not organic life, they don't have the rights or feelings the way we do, I for one an fully behind the Quarians in their decision to remove the geth during the morning war.

The Geth became sentient life.
You would see that they are destroyed because they are synthetic?

Yep, the Quarians took steps to protect their people, the geth were a mistake and needed to be removed, it obviously didn't work but I stand behind their decision

Wow thats like saying black babies are a mistake an need to be removed.

No actually its not, Geth are just machines, not people

So your saying that the geth are sub human? less than people?
Thats exactly how people rationalized slavery. Or how the Taliban justify there terrorism against western cultures.

The geth are machines, I don't know how many times I have to say
machines aren't people, they are tools

[Azint]

Alanosborn1991 wrote...

YO THE GETH ARE HERE AND THEY AINT PLAYIN'

Fighting Geth in da hoodz with ma mas dog Salarians

Okay, I did laugh.

[Felipe 058]

Somebody1003 wrote...

SirEmilCrane wrote...

No actually its not, Geth are just machines, not people

Geth are alive now.
You are like Talis father,
Wanting to crush the enemy, the Geth did nothing to the Quarians to incite anger.

Not only are they alive, but they are a unique form of life. They are what the borg should've been: a unified, synthetic species without all the...unification...