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[Alphyn]

UFOash wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

UFOash, dude, I just ate. :|

So did Tali

<_<

[wolfstanus]

UFOash wrote...

alickar wrote...

Timey254 wrote...

UFOash wrote...

Leaked ME3 Romance teaser.
*Unzips in preperation*
*snip*
BOING!

D:

omg soo much fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*bump,
You know you like lol.
You can never have too much Tali

Id hit it

Modifié par wolfstanus, 06 mars 2010 - 07:57 .

[the postman45]

intersect wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Decurian wrote...

I never liked ME1 Liara. Her actions in ME2 just sealed the deal.

She always creeped me out. I forsee trouble with her in ME3.

The only problem I forsee is Bioware forcing her back onto the team since she's alive in everyone's game.  Nothing about her in ME2 from her complete character shift to her horribly out of place priorities make me trust her or even want her around in the third game.  If we get Liara and no Tali, I may have to seriously rage.

I've never had Liara in my squad. Ever.

yea she sucked, ashley was really good but i coulnt seem to stay loyal to her in any of my ME2 playthroughs lol U just cant ignore tali

[Zuranamee]

woot image blocks!

[Das Wolfen]

Ragnarok Ekul wrote...

Doesn't it mention in ascension that quarians are very human like?

Doesn't go into detail though, except the Quarian who was pwnd under interrogation, even that only describes the injuries and confirms what we already know.

[Alphyn]

Found this at the 2.0 thread:

[tvai]

wolfstanus wrote...

UFOash wrote...

alickar wrote...

Timey254 wrote...

UFOash wrote...

Leaked ME3 Romance teaser.
*Unzips in preperation*

BOING!

D:

omg soo much fat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*bump,
You know you like lol.
You can never have too much Tali

Id hit it

Just keeping this jewel alive.

[wolfstanus]

Zuranamee wrote...

woot image blocks!

Woot sniped

[1490]

Das Wolfen wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Das Wolfen wrote...

byne wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
They control her appearance, personality and actions.  We have no effect on Tali aside from what our character does to her. 

That brings up an interesting concept. in ME1 you could influence both Garrus and (provided you played a femshep) Kaiden. What would it be like for a renegade shepard to influence Tali to a more violent, aggressive person? Not jack psychotic or Grunt "kill anything that moves", just showing off a darker side to her personality.
I'd rather like to see that.

You mean like what they did to Liara and totally ruined her? I'll pass.

Quick. Someone catch me up on what I missed since I went to sleep back around page 1741

I like the direction they took with Liara because I didn't. It was an imperfection, a character becoming darker t make the story more believable, like Garrus channelling Batman.

I think you're the first person I've seen since the game came out that actually liked ME2 Liara

It's wierd. I both do, and don't. Suffice to say, it's a character shift that justifies my ME2 romance choice and puts the 2 year time gap into greater context with such a twist. Just... don't do it again, Bioware

Have you read the Mass Effect comics yet? (I haven't) Or for anyone else who has, since Liara is the main character, is there anything that happens in the comics to justify her sudden change of personality?

[Decurian]

Phil725 wrote...

Decurian wrote...

I never liked ME1 Liara. Her actions in ME2 just sealed the deal.

She always creeped me out. I forsee trouble with her in ME3.

The only problem I forsee is Bioware forcing her back onto the team since she's alive in everyone's game.  Nothing about her in ME2 from her complete character shift to her horribly out of place priorities make me trust her or even want her around in the third game.  If we get Liara and no Tali, I may have to seriously rage.

Oh, I think she'll be back on the team. That's where the trouble will start.

My problem with it is in my game(s) Shepard never said more than a couple of dozen words to her in ME1 and tried to ignore her as much as possible.

In ME2, here you encounter her, and she has this proprietary air about her concerning Shepard, but he (I) don't really want anything to do with her past pumping her for information. It's a perceptual thing, but nevetheless from an RP perspective, it's jarring and there should be options to deal with it--like an airlock in deep space.

It could be a very interesting situation in ME3, but it fills me with apprehension. 

[apotheosic]

just out of curiosity, when you guys think of tali, do you see the mask, or do you have an imagined face that you place on her?

i personally always think of the mask. its a very cool mask, and i know that she wont actually look anything like what i imagine (or i hope so anyway...).

[Ragnarok Ekul]

Das Wolfen wrote...

Ragnarok Ekul wrote...

Doesn't it mention in ascension that quarians are very human like?

Doesn't go into detail though, except the Quarian who was pwnd under interrogation, even that only describes the injuries and confirms what we already know.

yeah it mentioned that they dont have ears aswellm if i remember...after all he wasnt the finest specimen

[danteshepard]

Azint wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
They control her appearance, personality and actions.  We have no effect on Tali aside from what our character does to her. 

That brings up an interesting concept. in ME1 you could influence both Garrus and (provided you played a femshep) Kaiden. What would it be like for a renegade shepard to influence Tali to a more violent, aggressive person? Not jack psychotic or Grunt "kill anything that moves", just showing off a darker side to her personality.
I'd rather like to see that.

I'm quite content with Tali not being malevolent.

As am I. I'm just saying it would be an interesting turn of events if your shepard was able to turn to the proverbial dark side.
Here's an example; let's say she was exiled in your playthrough,
the quarian people turned on her after everything she did for them. Now if it were me, I'd be BEYOND pissed off about it. So Shepard, though conversations with her, could get her to admit that she needs to start looking out for herself more and not think so much about what other people need.
This translates into a more aggressive posture when dealing with prejudice against her people and in the romance subplot we could have a more indulgent tali who is all for the romance regardless of the risks and dangers presented.
I'm not saying I don't like Tali as is, and I never would say that, I'm just saying that this could be an entertaining twist on the character.

[Das Wolfen]

1490 wrote...

Have you read the Mass Effect comics yet? (I haven't) Or for anyone else who has, since Liara is the main character, is there anything that happens in the comics to justify her sudden change of personality?

Think it's still in the early stages so have to wait a bit yet methinks. Think the 3rd volume's still in development.

[UFOash]

Alphyn wrote...

Found this at the 2.0 thread:

[wolfstanus]

Das Wolfen wrote...

1490 wrote...

Have you read the Mass Effect comics yet? (I haven't) Or for anyone else who has, since Liara is the main character, is there anything that happens in the comics to justify her sudden change of personality?

Think it's still in the early stages so have to wait a bit yet methinks. Think the 3rd volume's still in development.

3rd is being released soon

[Das Wolfen]

Ragnarok Ekul wrote...

Das Wolfen wrote...

Ragnarok Ekul wrote...

Doesn't it mention in ascension that quarians are very human like?

Doesn't go into detail though, except the Quarian who was pwnd under interrogation, even that only describes the injuries and confirms what we already know.

yeah it mentioned that they dont have ears aswellm if i remember...after all he wasnt the finest specimen

"The other cheek gaped wide, as if someone had slit it lengthwise from lip to what passed for the quarian version of an ear"

from the book, page 235 (got it next to me )

[Alphyn]

UFOash wrote...

I thought you'd be disappoined, seeing as though Tali isn't large in this one.

[Phil725]

byne wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Das Wolfen wrote...

I like the direction they took with Liara because I didn't. It was an imperfection, a character becoming darker t make the story more believable, like Garrus channelling Batman.

I think you're the first person I've seen since the game came out that actually liked ME2 Liara

To be fair, I still like Liara, since they do sort of explain her personality if you pick the right dialogue choices.

Also, this dude's analysis makes you look at the whole Liara thing a totally different way:

http://social.biowar...iscussion/3869/

That's a really good explanation, much better than my lazy/stupid Bioware theory

That said, I'm a very cynical person, and I always question how much of explanations like that are intended by the creators, and how much is revisionist history by fans making a very good sounding theory that stays true to evidence.

There are just some things I can't get over with Liara.  For one, how can she justify letting you go off on a suicide mission by yourself while she sits in an office and tries to hunt down TSB?  I mean the collectors killed you, TSB tried to profit off your death.  TSB will be there in 10, 20, 100 years.  Shepard is there now.  If she was really in love, she would want to be with him, and would definitely want to be fighting the collectors over the Shadow Broker.

There's also a difference between getting darker, and going from a naive loner scientist and a TIM level schemer/murderer.  You don't just make that jump overnight.

Modifié par Phil725, 06 mars 2010 - 08:05 .

[Iclonic]

Ragnarok Ekul wrote...

Doesn't it mention in ascension that quarians are very human like?

Yes. They mention in the book that Quarins and Humans are very alike. 

[byne]

Phil725 wrote...

byne wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Das Wolfen wrote...

I like the direction they took with Liara because I didn't. It was an imperfection, a character becoming darker t make the story more believable, like Garrus channelling Batman.

I think you're the first person I've seen since the game came out that actually liked ME2 Liara

To be fair, I still like Liara, since they do sort of explain her personality if you pick the right dialogue choices.

Also, this dude's analysis makes you look at the whole Liara thing a totally different way:

http://social.biowar...iscussion/3869/

That's a really good explanation, much better than my lazy/stupid Bioware theory

That said, I'm a very cynical person, and I always question how much of explanations like that are intended by the creators, and how much is revisionist history by fans making a very good sounding theory that stays true to evidence.

There are just some things I can't get over with Liara.  For one, how can she justify letting you go off on a suicide mission by yourself while she sits in an office and tries to hunt down TSB?  I mean the collectors killed you, TSB tried to profit off your death.  TSB will be there in 10, 20, 100 years.  Shepard is there now.  If she was really in love, you would want to be with him, and would definitely want to be fighting the collectors over the Shadow Broker.

There's also a difference between getting darker, and going from a naive loner scientist and a TIM level schemer/murderer.  You don't just make that jump overnight.

Nor did Liara. You were dead for 2 years, remember

[danteshepard]

Phil725 wrote...

byne wrote...

To be fair, I still like Liara, since they do sort of explain her personality if you pick the right dialogue choices.

Also, this dude's analysis makes you look at the whole Liara thing a totally different way:

http://social.biowar...iscussion/3869/

That's a really good explanation, much better than my lazy/stupid Bioware theory

That said, I'm a very cynical person, and I always question how much of explanations like that are intended by the creators, and how much is revisionist history by fans making a very good sounding theory that stays true to evidence.

There are just some things I can't get over with Liara.  For one, how can she justify letting you go off on a suicide mission by yourself while she sits in an office and tries to hunt down TSB?  I mean the collectors killed you, TSB tried to profit off your death.  TSB will be there in 10, 20, 100 years.  Shepard is there now.  If she was really in love, you would want to be with him, and would definitely want to be fighting the collectors over the Shadow Broker.

There's also a difference between getting darker, and going from a naive loner scientist and a TIM level schemer/murderer.  You don't just make that jump overnight.

It wasn't overnight. please remember that TWO YEARS have passed