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[UFOash]

byne wrote...

inFam0us wrote...

 Those are both hilarious!

[Pauravi]

Phil725 wrote...

I said this earlier, but it bears repeating.  Between the toes, fingers, legs, immune system, eyes and ears, quarians are already more alien in appearance than asari, batarians and drell.

I dunno about Drell, or especially Batarians.  Having snake scales and black sclera in their eyes is pretty alien.  Having four eyes and needle-teeth os even more so.  I agree, they are human in form, but something tells me that if Quarians were even remotely as alien-looking as Thane, a lot of people would be upset.

I think people who are expecting some kind of exotic alien are going to be disappointed.  Every piece of evidence we find makes Tali seem more and more human.

What evidence, exactly?
I'm not saying I want her to look bizarre, I'm just wondering.  We know she has a human-shaped face... eyes, lips, nose, brow ridge, cheek bones, correct proportions.  We know she has a fairly human body, with generally correct proportions, hips, and breasts.  But those are all big details.  It leaves a lot of interpretation of the details open, and details are what define a lot of the races.  Both Drell and Asari have very human faces, but are also very different from each other.  She isn't going to look like a Krogan, but they haven't given enough evidence to say that she will look almost entirely human, either.

Modifié par Pauravi, 06 mars 2010 - 11:26 .

[RevanKun123]

DrathanGervaise wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

There are plenty 100% more interesting girls than me somewhere else to annoy.

Plus Revan is taken.

ya... by JAKE haha:P

I am single.

Not your smartest move Revan.

It would be a waste of time anyway.

[UFOash]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Alright I'm back again, what's up.

The Sky

[RevanKun123]

UFOash wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Alright I'm back again, what's up.

The Sky

Heaven (If you believe in such thing).

[The_KFD_Case]

MMA7FF wrote...
KFD are you really trying to get a girl on the internetz.? lol

Nope. I'm trying to establish stronger communication with Revan.

Love will eventually find me. Or not. Either way works in the grand scheme of things I suspect.

[byne]

UFOash wrote...

Those are both hilarious!

[Big_Choppa]

Well, considering that this threat is already at 1809 pages...I can safely assume that Tali will be in ME3 and as a recruitable love interest. Then again we all know what happens when one assumes!

[UFOash]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

Lonely click here... USE THIS! NOT THE THREAD!
And for the love of God keep the flirting outa this thread!!!!

How do you name the links?

Hey Somebody can you fill me in on what's going on here.

Well eariler ther were fat tali pics.
Then just random talk...
Not much else really.

Completely Appropriate fat tali pics, I might add

Modifié par UFOash, 06 mars 2010 - 11:31 .

[Pauravi]

MarineBorn wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

MarineBorn wrote...

Lonely click here... USE THIS! NOT THE THREAD!
And for the love of God keep the flirting outa this thread!!!!

How do you name the links?

Microsoft word, hyperlinks

There is a much easier way.
See the little Globe icon with the two chain links, at the top of the Reply Editor, with the Bold and Italic buttons?  Highlight some text, then click that.  It will ask for your URL.  Copy-paste it in, and it will create a link for you.

[Phil725]

Pauravi wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

I said this earlier, but it bears repeating.  Between the toes, fingers, legs, immune system, eyes and ears, quarians are already more alien in appearance than asari, batarians and drell.

I dunno about Drell.  Having snake scales and black sclera in their eyes is pretty alien.  I agree, they are human in form, but something tells me that if Quarians were even remotely as alien-looking as Thane, a lot of people would be upset.

I think people who are expecting some kind of exotic alien are going to be disappointed.  Every piece of evidence we find makes Tali seem more and more human.

What evidence, exactly?
I'm not saying I want her to look bizarre, I'm just wondering.  We know she has a human-shaped face... eyes, lips, nose, brow ridge, cheek bones, correct proportions.  We know she has a fairly human body, with generally correct proportions, hips, and breasts.  But those are all big details.  It leaves a lot of interpretation of the details open, and details are what define a lot of the races.  Both Drell and Asari have very human faces, but are also very different from each other.  She isn't going to look like a Krogan, but they haven't given enough evidence to say that she will look almost entirely human, either.

As far as Drell, I guess I mean that you could take some green and black face paint and dress up as a drell a lot better than you could as a quarian.  There pretty close to a pallete swapped human appearance wise.  Even if it scales instead of skin.

As far as evidence, stuff like the books hinting at a human appearance, seeing eyebrows through the visor, the quarian skeleton on the one mission that's a human skeleton.  This stuff could all be written off as placeholders if Bioware wanted to, but just looking at everything we can find, I think Bioware has a very human face in mind.

so maybe I should rephrase it as there's no evidence that Tali will be more "alien" in appearance.  It's one thing to be able to call the evidence about her looking human circumstantial, but there is absolutely nothing that should make us expect 4 nostrils or something.

[The_KFD_Case]

RevanKun123 wrote...

You need a vacation.

Hm. Maybe, yet that is neither here nor there. There are other matters which I find myself far more concerned with than planning a vacation at present time.

[wolfstanus]

*Assuming control* Discuss

ure7
I agree with tykfa1990.

As far as point 1 of the two points you made, I agree, but I think it's safe to say that all of this is speculation on our parts--happily ever after, white-picket fence, and all that.

I can see Shepard and Tali have numerous trials if they are determined to have a life together. I can see hardspots on the road, easy. For as much crap as Shepard as gone through, this could be (strangely enough) one of the hardest things he will ever do in his life.

(1) I can see objections from the Admiralty Board. And though I think we all know what Tali would think about their opinions ("If they have a problem with it, they can go to hell."), I still think that would play out interestingly.
(2) Then you have what the world might think. And though we shouldn't care about what others think of us, there is sure to be flak regardless if we care about it or not.

That's just the easy part.

(3) The differences in genetic make-up are truly something difficult for humans to comprehend on the spot. We, as humans, grew up in the natural world and are therefore so use to using our five senses that we are, ironically, dull to them. Even when we "Stop and smell the roses," we don't actually "stop and smell them," as it were. What I mean by that is that we don't stop to appreciate the fact that we can simply just smell--smell a rose, or our favorite meal. We say, "Oh that smells wonderful," but we don't stop to think, "I CAN smell, this truly a blessing."--Am I making sense? And EVERY other alien race can do the same thing--even the Turians. They can't eat the same food as us, but they can still smell, and touch, and see the world with their own eyes.
Quarians are the only race that can't do this. Even though I knew Tali was trapped in her suit, I never stopped to think about she IS TRAPPED in that suit. Sure Tali says, "If I don't wear a helmet in my own home, I die. A single kiss could put me in the hospital..."
She is talking about how she can't so much as smell a flower, and then she damns the Pilgrimage, because if she never went, she would have never known what she was missing.
Tali is saying these things to me, and I found that wasn't truly listening or comprehending what she was saying. This did not hit me until I saw her father lying on the floor dead. She ran over to him and began to cry.
I'm going to repeat that:
Tali ran over to her father's body and began to cry...
THAT's when it hit me. "Holy crap!" I thought. "She can't even so much as wipe away the tears from her own face..."
And when I comforted her, I thought about how her helmet was between her and my shoulder. She couldn't even cry into my shoulder. But then I was also wearing armor there, so that kind of evens it out (and it killed the mood I was working so hard to set up--uh, moving on! LOL!). But do you see what I'm saying? And besides, even if I personally wasn't wearing armor, her helmet would still be in the way.
Tali'Zorah cannot smell, she cannot touch, she cannot feel.
I love how soft my bed is, and how soft my Shetland sheepdogs are when I pet them. I love the feeling of a cool breeze. I love the smell of Italian food.
I can remember commenting on how good something smelled--we do it without thinking; we can't help it. Then I remembered thinking, "How would I like it if everyday, or every other day, or whenever, if someone said their meal smelled good, but I couldn't smell at all because of an environment suit? If I listened to someone say that every day or every other day, how would I like it? Or if it's a hot day, and then there's a cool breeze, and that someone says 'Oh that feels good,' and I can see the wind blowing in their hair." My suit may keep me comfortable, but I think would still desire to feel that difference.
Here's a good one. What does she do when her nose itches? What if her nose is runny? What if she feels like she going to be sick? What would Tali do in that situation and she was not in a clean room?
(I know this is getting a little TMI maybe, but think about it.)
We don't have to worry about these things; we just do what comes naturally. There's nothing to hinder us, or worry us.
Quarians also have to approach social situations very differently than we do. We can enjoy the smile of another, or how their eyes light up when they're excited. Or even a cold or frightened look in simply the eyes of another.
Heck, ordinary people can read the subtlest of facial expressions. Quarians can do none of these things because there is no face to read. They have to convey what they're feeling in other ways. They also must do the same thing when showing affection.
Heck I was just wondering what would happen (even though it's been done), what would REALLY happen if a human and a quarian kiss. With different genetics and amino-acids comes different bacteria. The exchange of saliva during a kiss is inevitable. If you swallow it, (and I'm sure you will) would you get cramps or something? The same goes for the human. Mordin does mention something on the subject, and Tali only spoke of what sounded like flu-like symptoms. So maybe it's not a huge deal. But I still can't help but think.
I think I've devoted more than enough of this to the major differences in Quarians and then other species. But it still feels like I haven't covered half of it. Sheesh, I guess it's time to just move on.

So here's the situation. Let's say you are Shepard. Are you willing to put up with all of this and more? How much are you willing to give up for the one you love? Giving up things works on both ends, but a human may have to give up more. And PLEASE don't misunderstand me, I don't mean your sense of smell, your favorite meal, or anything like that necessarily. That's being a little unreasonable. And most quarians are too selfless to ask such things of us--in fact, I don't think there are many people in general who would ask such things of us.
This is where you really have to accept your differences and push through no matter what. If you know deep down inside that this quarian/human is the one for you until you're old and grey, and then until you die.
Are you willing to go through what would be undoubtedly one of the hardest trials of your life?
This is what true love is--selflessness. Not because it's what makes us feel good or because it suits us; that's merely one of the results of what love is.
"Yes, I'm willing to go through the all the trials. Yes, I'm willing to set what I want aside for you. I don't care if we can't have children together, we can adopt! I'm willing to sit by your side at the hospital and hold your hand and do whatever it takes to help you, even if we do it a million times over in the course of our lives.
I don't care what others think. I don't care if we can't be as intimate as others all the time. There are many different forms of intimacy anyway. So long as I have you, that's all that matters. Etc., etc., etc."
Maybe you as Shepard could show interest in Tali and ask her about Quarian social customs and the like. I'm sure she would be more than happy to teach you. Of course, this is all speculation, remember. All of this doesn't really need to be in the game, naturally--there's no way. This is just the idea of afterwards.
Nevertheless, I think Bioware should address some of these issues for continued relationships, esp. in Tali's case. Their LI-plots are going to have to be VERY different from what they were in games 1 and 2.

I personally would be willing to go through all the troubles and hard work for Tali. I wouldn't think twice.
Heck, if it really (and I mean REALLY) comes to it, I would let her go if it's best, no matter how much it hurts. Love is sacrifice for others; it's doing what's best for someone, even if you're not a part of it. Under any other circumstances I would pursue someone like Tali to the ends of the earth. Does all of this make sense?
THAT is what love truly is.

(Of course, that last part especially is getting a little too literal, and it doesn't have to come to that [and I can't see that it ever will], esp. since this is a fictitious character [and a game] we're talking about here. Heh, heh. Just want to establish that I'm not insane, I just tend to get a little literal when it comes to a rich character such as this one. I have never met such a rich and convincingly life-like character such as Tali'Zorah in a video game ever before.)

Modifié par wolfstanus, 06 mars 2010 - 11:33 .

[Lord_Moose]

sergio71785 wrote...

 --Shepard and Tali in elementary school--

Lil Tali: Miss Chakwas, Shepard is making fun of me again!

Lil Shepard: That's because you've got cooties!

Lil Tali: You dummy, I can't get cooties in my suit!

Miss Chakwas: Shepard, leave Tali alone!

Lil Shepard: Yes Miss Chakwas... <_<

Miss Chakwas: Don't feel bad Tali. Usually when little boys tease girls, it's because they like them.

Lil Shepard: Ewwww, no! Girls are stupid! 

Lil Tali: You're the stupid one, you bosh'tet! 

Miss Chakwas: Tali'Zorah nar Rayya, do not use that language in my class room! Go to the corner, you've got time out!

Lil Tali: Why you...this is your fault, Shepard! I hate you! *Tali storms to the corner and sits with her arms crossed*

--Later on that day during recess--

Lil Saren: Hey you, Quarian, give me your lunch credits!

Lil Tali: What? No! Leave me alone!

Lil Saren: I said give me them! *Saren pushes Tali down* 

*Shepard comes riding in on Joker's wheelchair*

Lil Shepard: Hey, leave her alone you jerk! 

*Shepard pushes Saren, causing him to fall and scrape his knee scales*

Lil Saren: You stupid...I'll show you! *Sniffle* You just wait! *Saren runs off* 

*Shepard helps Tali up*

Lil Tali: Thank you...Shepard...

Lil Shepard: Yeah...hey...I'm sorry about earlier. Y'know, for getting you into trouble...

Lil Tali: It's okay.... I'm sorry too, for calling you that bad word...

Lil Shepard: You know, you're not so bad. For a girl, I mean

*Tali giggles and playfully pushes Shepard*

Lil' Cripple Jeff lays on the floor because his wheelchair got stolen

[MMA7FF]

im not reading that... : l

[The_KFD_Case]

RevanKun123 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

RevanKun123 wrote...

There are plenty 100% more interesting girls than me somewhere else to annoy.

Plus Revan is taken.

Huh? What are you talking about?
I am single.

Second rookie mistake.

First mistake: Openly stating you are a female in a heavily male dominated internet thread.

Second mistake: Openly stating you are single.