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[BigKahuna25]

Pauravi wrote...

DrakeforBake wrote...

Really it's just my theory. It'll need somebody much more informed than in myself in the ways of science to figure out how that works.

Don't analyze too deeply... this is Sci-Fi after all.
It works and makes sense by cursory inspection, that is good enough for me.

The lack of insect life is a pretty huge impact after all. We germinate most of our crops with honey bee's after all.

True... but plants always find a way!
Look at chile peppers.  They primarily spread their seeds by birds.  So to keep other things from eating them, they evolved the chemical capsaicin, that wonderful substance that gives all hot peppers their kick!  It keeps most animals from eating them, but birds are not susceptible to the chemical, so only birds eat the peppers and thus only birds spread the seeds.  Humans are actually the only mammal that subjects themselves to that stuff voluntarily

the true measure of intelligence is liking spicy food.

[CrAzyManMike]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

purple cloth, picture of whole SR1 crew, and circuit boards

She would also have a wall of shame for all of the components that she made and failed (although rare, it could happen)...every good engineer needs to have one to learn from past mistakes

[1490]

byne wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ooo... i wounder what talis room is like...

do you think she would have a pic of shep in it....

before they hooked up?

Tali has no room
at least not on the normandy..

I always wondered where Tali, Garrus, Jacob, Mordin, Grunt, and Zaeed all slept.

Do they sleep in the cryo chambers lining the path to where Garrus hangs out?

I don't know about today (maybe a Navy man could answer this for me) but back in WW2, a lot of sailors would sleep in their sections of the ship to save bunk room and to be immediately ready for an attack.  For instance, on a submarine the torpedo guy would sleep in a bunk in the torpedo room.  Garrus might do the same.  Grunt probably doesn't care where he sleeps because Krogan are all rough-and-tumble. Zaeed has all his stuff set up in the cargo bay, so he probably sleep there.  Mordin and Jacob probably sleep in the crew quarters with everyone else. 

Generally people don't sleep in the engine room on ships because they are loud and hot, but Tali might because she's used to loud noises on the Flotilla (see ME 1)

[CrAzyManMike]

1490 wrote...

byne wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ooo... i wounder what talis room is like...

do you think she would have a pic of shep in it....

before they hooked up?

Tali has no room
at least not on the normandy..

I always wondered where Tali, Garrus, Jacob, Mordin, Grunt, and Zaeed all slept.

Do they sleep in the cryo chambers lining the path to where Garrus hangs out?

I don't know about today (maybe a Navy man could answer this for me) but back in WW2, a lot of sailors would sleep in their sections of the ship to save bunk room and to be immediately ready for an attack.  For instance, on a submarine the torpedo guy would sleep in a bunk in the torpedo room.  Garrus might do the same.  Grunt probably doesn't care where he sleeps because Krogan are all rough-and-tumble. Zaeed has all his stuff set up in the cargo bay, so he probably sleep there.  Mordin and Jacob probably sleep in the crew quarters with everyone else. 

Generally people don't sleep in the engine room on ships because they are loud and hot, but Tali might because she's used to loud noises on the Flotilla (see ME 1)

Kaylee slept in the engine room in Firefly

[MMA7FF]

CrAzyManMike wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

She would have what scraps of shepards (ie armor bits...hair?) in a scrapbook somewhere

maybe a piece of his armor but the hair....
makes Tali sound like a complete CREEPER

[Knoll Argonar]

I could make a try.



I think that what you say is mostly correct, 1490, but I don't think they completely lost the ability to "adapt" their immnune system to their enviroment, it's just that it's too weak for rafical changes. And I don't think Space-born quarians already had a weak immune system: they probably were able to adapt the other worlds they were set in, if their mothers already had antibodies against diseases from there.



Problem comes when mothers do not have that. Probably what happened to quarians happened because of the lack of ANY hereditary antibodies from mother's to son. 300 years in a 100+ life span like humans (as it seems to be), considering 30+ years per generation, 10-12 generations. During those, if mother's don't develop any kind immune system rather than the one you may get on a cleaned space station, children would just get even worse immune system generation per generation.



I know that antibodies have a short life-span, but it must be long enough to let quarian babies to adapt themselves to their enviroment. If they don't have them, that adaptation would kill you.



Just my 2 cents.

[BigKahuna25]

FsDxRAGE wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

purple cloth, picture of whole SR1 crew, and circuit boards

well since she surely shared it with her family or, after ME1 maybe with some other younger single quarians, it probably looked like a dorm room.

Modifié par BigKahuna25, 07 mars 2010 - 02:16 .

[sergio71785]

chool77 wrote...

ooo... i wounder what talis room is like...

I don't know about her quarters back on the Neema, but I do know her current room has an aquarium

[CrAzyManMike]

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

She would have what scraps of shepards (ie armor bits...hair?) in a scrapbook somewhere

maybe a piece of his armor but the hair....
makes Tali sound like a complete CREEPER

haha the hair was a joke...of course she wouldn't have that.
That would just be silly

[1490]

Knoll Argonar wrote...

I could make a try.

I think that what you say is mostly correct, 1490, but I don't think they completely lost the ability to "adapt" their immnune system to their enviroment, it's just that it's too weak for rafical changes. And I don't think Space-born quarians already had a weak immune system: they probably were able to adapt the other worlds they were set in, if their mothers already had antibodies against diseases from there.

Problem comes when mothers do not have that. Probably what happened to quarians happened because of the lack of ANY hereditary antibodies from mother's to son. 300 years in a 100+ life span like humans (as it seems to be), considering 30+ years per generation, 10-12 generations. During those, if mother's don't develop any kind immune system rather than the one you may get on a cleaned space station, children would just get even worse immune system generation per generation.

I know that antibodies have a short life-span, but it must be long enough to let quarian babies to adapt themselves to their enviroment. If they don't have them, that adaptation would kill you.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with that: if they completely lost immune adaptability, they wouldn't be able to "link suits" and get used to it like Tali talks about.  And you're right: it would take thousands of years to actually "evolve" a new immune system, so to build it in only a few hundred years would mean that it was a cumulative immune system passed down from mothers to their children through breastmilk.

[Iclonic]

Hey, I know I may look like a fool asking for this...but how the heck do you make your signature and stuff turn into a click-able link?



You can see my two stories listed right on my signature and I want to turn them into a link. HELP! and make your instructions very-user friendly. I take stuff like that very literally.

[MMA7FF]

CrAzyManMike wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

She would have what scraps of shepards (ie armor bits...hair?) in a scrapbook somewhere

maybe a piece of his armor but the hair....
makes Tali sound like a complete CREEPER

haha the hair was a joke...of course she wouldn't have that.
That would just be silly

lol i was hoping you were kidding...

[CrAzyManMike]

1490 wrote...

Knoll Argonar wrote...

I could make a try.

I think that what you say is mostly correct, 1490, but I don't think they completely lost the ability to "adapt" their immnune system to their enviroment, it's just that it's too weak for rafical changes. And I don't think Space-born quarians already had a weak immune system: they probably were able to adapt the other worlds they were set in, if their mothers already had antibodies against diseases from there.

Problem comes when mothers do not have that. Probably what happened to quarians happened because of the lack of ANY hereditary antibodies from mother's to son. 300 years in a 100+ life span like humans (as it seems to be), considering 30+ years per generation, 10-12 generations. During those, if mother's don't develop any kind immune system rather than the one you may get on a cleaned space station, children would just get even worse immune system generation per generation.

I know that antibodies have a short life-span, but it must be long enough to let quarian babies to adapt themselves to their enviroment. If they don't have them, that adaptation would kill you.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with that: if they completely lost immune adaptability, they wouldn't be able to "link suits" and get used to it like Tali talks about.  And you're right: it would take thousands of years to actually "evolve" a new immune system, so to build it in only a few hundred years would mean that it was a cumulative immune system passed down from mothers to their children through breastmilk.

About the lack of an immune system...remember Tali tells Shepard "If a stray bit of bacteria could really kill us, then we'd all be dead". So no, they didn't loose all immune system adaptability...just most of it

[Iclonic]

1490 wrote...

Knoll Argonar wrote...

I could make a try.

I think that what you say is mostly correct, 1490, but I don't think they completely lost the ability to "adapt" their immnune system to their enviroment, it's just that it's too weak for rafical changes. And I don't think Space-born quarians already had a weak immune system: they probably were able to adapt the other worlds they were set in, if their mothers already had antibodies against diseases from there.

Problem comes when mothers do not have that. Probably what happened to quarians happened because of the lack of ANY hereditary antibodies from mother's to son. 300 years in a 100+ life span like humans (as it seems to be), considering 30+ years per generation, 10-12 generations. During those, if mother's don't develop any kind immune system rather than the one you may get on a cleaned space station, children would just get even worse immune system generation per generation.

I know that antibodies have a short life-span, but it must be long enough to let quarian babies to adapt themselves to their enviroment. If they don't have them, that adaptation would kill you.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with that: if they completely lost immune adaptability, they wouldn't be able to "link suits" and get used to it like Tali talks about.  And you're right: it would take thousands of years to actually "evolve" a new immune system, so to build it in only a few hundred years would mean that it was a cumulative immune system passed down from mothers to their children through breastmilk.

Actually, our white blood cells can have an extremely long life span that can last from a few hours to a few years.  Cool huh?

[CrAzyManMike]

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

She would have what scraps of shepards (ie armor bits...hair?) in a scrapbook somewhere

maybe a piece of his armor but the hair....
makes Tali sound like a complete CREEPER

haha the hair was a joke...of course she wouldn't have that.
That would just be silly

lol i was hoping you were kidding...

I thought the next to it gave that impression

[BigKahuna25]

CrAzyManMike wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

She would have what scraps of shepards (ie armor bits...hair?) in a scrapbook somewhere

maybe a piece of his armor but the hair....
makes Tali sound like a complete CREEPER

haha the hair was a joke...of course she wouldn't have that.
That would just be silly

lol i was hoping you were kidding...

I thought the next to it gave that impression

i thought it meant you like to lick people's hair

[sergio71785]

In Tali's quarters on the Neema, there is a "Paus" brand worktable, with various electronics and drone parts on it.

[Scalpels]

LegendaryAvenger wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

Quarian architechture with shepard picture

Imagine mix. Inara's Shuttle + Engine Room. OSD scattered around workstation. Holos of friends. Many parts scattered. Fabric wallhangings.

[Knoll Argonar]

1490 wrote...

Knoll Argonar wrote...

I could make a try.

I think that what you say is mostly correct, 1490, but I don't think they completely lost the ability to "adapt" their immnune system to their enviroment, it's just that it's too weak for rafical changes. And I don't think Space-born quarians already had a weak immune system: they probably were able to adapt the other worlds they were set in, if their mothers already had antibodies against diseases from there.

Problem comes when mothers do not have that. Probably what happened to quarians happened because of the lack of ANY hereditary antibodies from mother's to son. 300 years in a 100+ life span like humans (as it seems to be), considering 30+ years per generation, 10-12 generations. During those, if mother's don't develop any kind immune system rather than the one you may get on a cleaned space station, children would just get even worse immune system generation per generation.

I know that antibodies have a short life-span, but it must be long enough to let quarian babies to adapt themselves to their enviroment. If they don't have them, that adaptation would kill you.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with that: if they completely lost immune adaptability, they wouldn't be able to "link suits" and get used to it like Tali talks about.  And you're right: it would take thousands of years to actually "evolve" a new immune system, so to build it in only a few hundred years would mean that it was a cumulative immune system passed down from mothers to their children through breastmilk.

Yup, and because of that, once Tali adapts "Shepard", she wouldn't have much trouble "linking suits" with him. In fact what she did taking all those immunoboosters was just protecting herself so she could "survive" the adaptation for sure.

But of course that doesn't mean she would get killed otherwise, we will never know.

[CrAzyManMike]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

CrAzyManMike wrote...

chool77 wrote...

ok ok lets try this again


what do you think tali's room would look like be for she hook up with shep

on the flotilla....

She would have what scraps of shepards (ie armor bits...hair?) in a scrapbook somewhere

maybe a piece of his armor but the hair....
makes Tali sound like a complete CREEPER

haha the hair was a joke...of course she wouldn't have that.
That would just be silly

lol i was hoping you were kidding...

I thought the next to it gave that impression

i thought it meant you like to lick people's hair

It depends on the hair type:P
Split ends are a definite no-no
It tastes the best after using Head and Shoulders I find

[MMA7FF]

Has everyone here seen the depressing Tali picture...?

[SirEmilCrane]

MMA7FF wrote...

Has everyone here seen the depressing Tali picture...?

yes, don't show it again

[BigKahuna25]

MMA7FF wrote...

Has everyone here seen the depressing Tali picture...?

i do believe i have not.

[1490]

Iclonic wrote...

1490 wrote...

Knoll Argonar wrote...

I could make a try.

I think that what you say is mostly correct, 1490, but I don't think they completely lost the ability to "adapt" their immnune system to their enviroment, it's just that it's too weak for rafical changes. And I don't think Space-born quarians already had a weak immune system: they probably were able to adapt the other worlds they were set in, if their mothers already had antibodies against diseases from there.

Problem comes when mothers do not have that. Probably what happened to quarians happened because of the lack of ANY hereditary antibodies from mother's to son. 300 years in a 100+ life span like humans (as it seems to be), considering 30+ years per generation, 10-12 generations. During those, if mother's don't develop any kind immune system rather than the one you may get on a cleaned space station, children would just get even worse immune system generation per generation.

I know that antibodies have a short life-span, but it must be long enough to let quarian babies to adapt themselves to their enviroment. If they don't have them, that adaptation would kill you.

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with that: if they completely lost immune adaptability, they wouldn't be able to "link suits" and get used to it like Tali talks about.  And you're right: it would take thousands of years to actually "evolve" a new immune system, so to build it in only a few hundred years would mean that it was a cumulative immune system passed down from mothers to their children through breastmilk.

Actually, our white blood cells can have an extremely long life span that can last from a few hours to a few years.  Cool huh?

True, especially the longer-lasting ones like natural killer cells and T cells.  Lymphocytes (what are used to kill bacteria) only last a few days to a week, and die once they are used (i.e. they "suicide bomb" the bacteria)

[CrAzyManMike]

BigKahuna25 wrote...

MMA7FF wrote...

Has everyone here seen the depressing Tali picture...?

i do believe i have not.

I do not think I have either
*Braces for impact*