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[Pauravi]

glenboy24 wrote...

Yes, as Doc has pointed out, it's only been a few hundred years since the Exile of the Mirgrant Fleet; however, look at how easy it is for some humans to become light color in just a few days or week of being out of the Sun. Yes, Quarians are not Human, but the theory is sound none the less that after a few hundred years they would loose any real pigmentation.

I don't know how sound it is, really.  It is difficult to say without specifics on Quarian skin pigmentation.

People always seem to assume that it is natural for skin pigmentation to disappear without sunlight just because it happens in humans, but this is most certainly not always the case.  In fact, we do not lose skin pigmentation just because it isn't needed -- we lose it because keeping it causes vitamin D deficiencies in low-UV environments.

Assuming that Quarian skin pigmentation would get lighter over time is the same as assuming that keeping their skin pigment is detrimental to health in the absense of sunlight (something that is most certainly not a safe assumption).  If it weren't, there would be no reason for them to have a mechanism that decreases pigmentation, and no selective pressure to get rid of it.

Anyway, I am not necessarily disagreeing with the idea, just pointing out that it is not necessarily, or even likely true.

[cannedcream]

MMA7FF wrote...

antilles333 wrote...

*fell asleep at they keyboard*

Goodnight.

haha no matter how many times you say your leaving we kno your tricks lol
youll always be lurking here lol
but just in case keelah se'lai my friend

Ant knows all and see all.

Tentativly: Keelah se'lai.

[mnfdsnjklfdslkfds]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Every time I look on here we're talking about TIM 

Pretty sure someone made the point on the last page, but it really is wrong to hold actions in the book against him.  In ME2 the writers changed his character to a much less evil person.  You can hate book/ME1 TIM all you want, but that character doesn't exist anymore.  Projecting his past personality onto him now is making people think he's a more evil character.

He's no longer an excessively violent terrorist, just the ultimate renegade.  Their is a difference.

The book coming out later this summer looks like it will make him eveil once again though...

I've never really considerd the books canon in the first place.  Bioware can lean on them for backstory, but they also can change any information that they want to from the books.  I prefer to use the games to get most of the info, and fill in any blanks with the books, not color my thought on the game based on them.

Well I havent read any of them yet...

The books and game come from the exact same writer, they are one in the same. Everything collides. The only differences you recieve are the individual perspectives, IE: Anderson, Kahlee, Grayson...

[Azint]

Jake71887 wrote...

It wouldn't have been torture to a sane mind, it's regretful that they had to stress veetor more; but time was of the essence. I'd say it was more regrettable that he couldn't help with more info

Hey look everyone! I'm disagreeing without flaming the person!

Courtesy wins!

[Jake71887]

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...


The books and game come from the exact same writer, they are one in the same. Everything collides. The only differences you recieve are the individual perspectives, IE: Anderson, Kahlee, Grayson...

The books come from one writer, the games come from multiple... 

[SleeperSyndrome123]

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

It wouldn't have been torture to a sane mind, it's regretful that they had to stress veetor more; but time was of the essence. I'd say it was more regrettable that he couldn't help with more info

Hey look everyone! I'm disagreeing without flaming the person!

Courtesy wins!

C'mon now, everyone knows the only mature way to get your point across is to brutally flame the person you're arguing with.

[Jake71887]

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

It wouldn't have been torture to a sane mind, it's regretful that they had to stress veetor more; but time was of the essence. I'd say it was more regrettable that he couldn't help with more info

Hey look everyone! I'm disagreeing without flaming the person!

Courtesy wins!

F*** You! 


:innocent:

[1490]

Ok, I'm waaay too tired to stay and have an intelligent discussion here: I'm going to pass out on the keyboard pretty soon myself. So farewell everyone, Keelah Se'lai

[Azint]

SleeperSyndrome123 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

It wouldn't have been torture to a sane mind, it's regretful that they had to stress veetor more; but time was of the essence. I'd say it was more regrettable that he couldn't help with more info

Hey look everyone! I'm disagreeing without flaming the person!

Courtesy wins!

C'mon now, everyone knows the only mature way to get your point across is to brutally flame the person you're arguing with.

SHUT UP

[mnfdsnjklfdslkfds]

Jake71887 wrote...

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...


The books and game come from the exact same writer, they are one in the same. Everything collides. The only differences you recieve are the individual perspectives, IE: Anderson, Kahlee, Grayson...

The books come from one writer, the games come from multiple... 

But the writer of the book is also tantamount in the game writing. So he wouldn't chnage his own storyline.

[SleeperSyndrome123]

Azint wrote...

SleeperSyndrome123 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

It wouldn't have been torture to a sane mind, it's regretful that they had to stress veetor more; but time was of the essence. I'd say it was more regrettable that he couldn't help with more info

Hey look everyone! I'm disagreeing without flaming the person!

Courtesy wins!

C'mon now, everyone knows the only mature way to get your point across is to brutally flame the person you're arguing with.

SHUT UP

Wowsers. . .

[Collider]

We don't appear to have a conclusive idea of the Quarian's skin color. I have seen concept art with Tali with some of her face revealed, and it was a grey color. Also, with camera techniques you can peer into the Quarian face mask. The skin color there is white or greyish. Very well could be a placeholder even in color though. Likely, even.

[Jake71887]

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...


The books and game come from the exact same writer, they are one in the same. Everything collides. The only differences you recieve are the individual perspectives, IE: Anderson, Kahlee, Grayson...

The books come from one writer, the games come from multiple... 

But the writer of the book is also tantamount in the game writing. So he wouldn't chnage his own storyline.

No, but minor details do slip through the net, and it hardly makes him the god of the storyline.. He does have to cooperate, and especially listen to da boss. 

[Phil725]

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...

If anyone of you pushed that guy out of the window on Illium because he didn't give you information, you are just as bad as TIM. One death is as bad as a million to the guy you killed

You mean the mercenary?  You realize you killed 50 of them downstairs before you reached him right?  Does the fact that you sneaked up on him make it wrong to kill him?  If he had heard the elevator ding, he would have been waiting with his gun drawn and opened fire on whoever was their whether it was a salarian janitor, you or Thane.

He was very clear on his priorities, he signed up risking death, and he knew it.  If he wanted to live, he could've easily passed on some fake info or pleaded for his life.  He knew that failing in his line of work has the penalty of death.  Instead he dares you to throw him out the window because he knows that letting you go is a killable offense as well. 

Mercenaries are not innocent people, they kill anyone for money.  I don't understand why people are so hesitant to kill mercs, you kill hundreds through gameplay.

[Azint]

SleeperSyndrome123 wrote...

Azint wrote...

SleeperSyndrome123 wrote...

Azint wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

It wouldn't have been torture to a sane mind, it's regretful that they had to stress veetor more; but time was of the essence. I'd say it was more regrettable that he couldn't help with more info

Hey look everyone! I'm disagreeing without flaming the person!

Courtesy wins!

C'mon now, everyone knows the only mature way to get your point across is to brutally flame the person you're arguing with.

SHUT UP

Wowsers. . .

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[SleeperSyndrome123]

Collider wrote...

We don't appear to have a conclusive idea of the Quarian's skin color. I have seen concept art with Tali with some of her face revealed, and it was a grey color. Also, with camera techniques you can peer into the Quarian face mask. The skin color there is white or greyish. Very well could be a placeholder even in color though. Likely, even.

The problem is, too many people by now have probably associated gray with Quarian skin color. I know I have.

For them to change it might be weird for a lot of people.

[cannedcream]

1490 wrote...

Ok, I'm waaay too tired to stay and have an intelligent discussion here: I'm going to pass out on the keyboard pretty soon myself. So farewell everyone, Keelah Se'lai

Ditto.
I'm going to go and try to actully get some sleep tonight.

Keelah Se'lai.

[Jake71887]

Phil725 wrote...

Mercenaries are not innocent people, they kill anyone for money.  I don't understand why people are so hesitant to kill mercs, you kill hundreds through gameplay. 

"If they're getting paid on the side, that makes them mercs... I can kill mercs"

[mnfdsnjklfdslkfds]

Jake71887 wrote...

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

mnfdsnjklfdslkfds wrote...


The books and game come from the exact same writer, they are one in the same. Everything collides. The only differences you recieve are the individual perspectives, IE: Anderson, Kahlee, Grayson...

The books come from one writer, the games come from multiple... 

But the writer of the book is also tantamount in the game writing. So he wouldn't chnage his own storyline.

No, but minor details do slip through the net, and it hardly makes him the god of the storyline.. He does have to cooperate, and especially listen to da boss. 

Sure he does, I only mention the writer of the story writing the books to explain that it is doubtful he would alter his books in a way that would contradict with the game, as one individual mentioned.

[RogueWriter3201]

Pauravi wrote...

glenboy24 wrote...

Yes, as Doc has pointed out, it's only been a few hundred years since the Exile of the Mirgrant Fleet; however, look at how easy it is for some humans to become light color in just a few days or week of being out of the Sun. Yes, Quarians are not Human, but the theory is sound none the less that after a few hundred years they would loose any real pigmentation.

I don't know how sound it is, really.  It is difficult to say without specifics on Quarian skin pigmentation.

People always seem to assume that it is natural for skin pigmentation to disappear without sunlight just because it happens in humans, but this is most certainly not always the case.  In fact, we do not lose skin pigmentation just because it isn't needed -- we lose it because keeping it causes vitamin D deficiencies in low-UV environments.

Assuming that Quarian skin pigmentation would get lighter over time is the same as assuming that keeping their skin pigment is detrimental to health in the absense of sunlight (something that is most certainly not a safe assumption).  If it weren't, there would be no reason for them to have a mechanism that decreases pigmentation, and no selective pressure to get rid of it.

Anyway, I am not necessarily disagreeing with the idea, just pointing out that it is not necessarily, or even likely true.

I agree, to an extent, that there is nothing that clearly indicates the lessoning of Quarian skin piqmentation over time. Really, those views are based off observations of Earth based species and may not apply to non-Terran life forms. However, in regards to Tali, the subject is really just an add on. My initial point was that Tali's Skin tone does not, upon closer inspection, appear to be Purple or Violet, but more grayish in Tone. I think Talimancers and others just got wrapped up in the idea because of the faceplate tint and the hue of her EV-Suit. Still, I don't want to completely burst someone's 'Happy' bubble.

Anyway, trying to keep things on Topic in the face of other who don't is not the best way to spent the late evening. So...I'm out. I wish everyone a good night.

Keelah Se'lai

[MMA7FF]

Collider wrote...

Well what "canon" means is what actually happened. For example, Revan was canonically a lightside male. But that's Star Wars. This is Mass Effect and I doubt Bioware will write what gender Shepard was and his/her romantic interest.

yes mass effect is too multi- lateral to have one specific thing be canon.
but if I were to say something is canon on mass effect I would say it has 2 canon.. things.. lol
(note these are just how I could see the canon game being lol)
Male shep- paragon- Tali romance or Liara. lol
Fem shep- paragon- Garrus Romance or kaiden lol
so really like we said there is no CANON its all choices anyway lol rthose were just my thoughts on the matter lol