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[Felipe 058]

Phil725 wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

How about this for right place right time, if Powel wasn't sleeping behind those crates, you would have never known Saren was behind Eden Prime.  We never accuse him of treason in the first place, Garrus doesn't get the lead, and we don't hear about Tali's evidence.  We never would have met Tali.  She would have been taken out by Fist's assassins.  We all owe Powel a great debt of thanks for saving Tali

LOL! True, so the real hero of humanity is Powel and his naps.

It's funny now sometimes something seemingly completely insignificant can change the course of history.
Little scary, too.

Remember the episode of Scrubs, My Butterfly?

Yeah but doesn't the guy end up dying in the end in both realities?

That's not the point I was trying to make, but I suppose we can look at that like this: regardless of whether or not Powell had been napping, we (i.e. Shepard) would've found out about Saren's involvement somehow anyway. Powell is our butterfly, and Saren and the Reapers are our dying man, so to speak.

[Himmelstor]

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

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[cannedcream]

Could you imagine that, him actually helping Shepard? lol

I can! That's the sad this, I really can see him doing something stupid and suicidal to save Shep's life.

[camoboy_19]

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

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[MMA7FF]

GAH bioware should employ some company to make ME plushies

id buy a few Tali's lol

[Strawberry Kiwi]

Alright then guys, I'm gonna head off. Getting a bit late here.
Hopefully we aren't closed down by the time I get back.

[Himmelstor]

camoboy_19 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

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[Himmelstor]

Strawberry Kiwi wrote...

Alright then guys, I'm gonna head off. Getting a bit late here.
Hopefully we aren't closed down by the time I get back.

Keelah Se'lai, my friend!

[cannedcream]

That's not the point I was trying to make, but I suppose we can look at that like this: regardless of whether or not Powell had been napping, we (i.e. Shepard) would've found out about Saren's involvement somehow anyway. Powell is our butterfly, and Saren and the Reapers are our dying man, so to speak.

Maybe, but would it have been in time? Possible, but a lot would have changed:

Tali: Killed in a back ally.
Liara: Killed in the ruins or taken to Sovern
Garrus: Still trapped within C-sec
Wrex: Never becoming clan-leader to unite his people
Kaidan/ Ash: Still alive


Everything would be different; maybe for the better, maybe for the worse. We'll never know.

Modifié par cannedcream, 08 mars 2010 - 06:14 .

[sergio71785]

I got an email from my boss complaining that some of my work is late.

It's this thread's fault, too.

Actually, by saying that, I'm indirectly blaming Tali, and I just can't do that. So I take it back.

Modifié par sergio71785, 08 mars 2010 - 06:15 .

[camoboy_19]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

camoboy_19 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Shameless Self Promotion:
Doctor prescribes fanfiction!
Part Five of Memories Forgotten is up in blog!
Please read and comment!
And enjoy!
WARNING: If have weak stomach, do not try to read...

Want comments. As many as possible.

Know the drill...

I already gave a good comment WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?

From you? Nothing. From others? A comment upon reading. Hate seeing views to comments ratio.

It tells you how many views you have?

What if I view it multiple times?

[cannedcream]

Somebody1003 wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Could you imagine that, him actually helping Shepard? lol

I can! That's the sad this, I really can see him doing something stupid and suicidal to save Shep's life.

Poor guy, I always felt bad for him.
I was nice to him in both ME1 and 2.

Ditto.
Lying A-hole still says I put a gun in his face.
I DID NO SUCH THING! . . .that time. . .

[Collider]

Here's a really great quote in a thread about the pacing of romances in ME2.

JeanLuc761 wrote...
Tali'Zorah:
Tali's
romance was my personal favorite as it has the best pacing out of any
other romance (plus I like her). You already have all your experiences
in the first game going for you which serves as a foundation for her
feelings for you (and yours for her).  This is further driven home on
her recruit mission where several hints are dropped (“I wish Shepard
were here...”) that she cares for you. There's another couple
conversations you have with her before her loyalty mission where you
get to know her a bit better.  They're well paced and neither party is
jumping into things. During Tali's loyalty mission, you build an
incredible emotional connection with her and go through an exceptional
amount of personal turmoil.  If you choose to defend her, this not only
cements her loyalty to you, but your loyalty to her. I like how this is
handled because it's a relationship based upon devotion to one another,
for who that person is. The romance starts after her loyalty mission,
and it's nothing major. She express her interest in you and you can do
so in return. It's fun and flirtatious without coming on too strongly. 
The next convo brings you two together, saying that Shepard is willing
to wait for her, as long as it takes. This isn't (just) about sex, this
is about transcending the physical barriers that hold them apart and it
further drives home that these two are devoted to each other. The next
talk has Tali telling you how much she appreciates your patience, and
really shows how much she wants to be with him. The climax of the
relationship is handled very well as Tali get's flustered but is
quickly overcome with joy when her mask is finally removed. Expertly
paced and very believable in the context of the storyline.

[Phil725]

cannedcream wrote...

That's not the point I was trying to make, but I suppose we can look at that like this: regardless of whether or not Powell had been napping, we (i.e. Shepard) would've found out about Saren's involvement somehow anyway. Powell is our butterfly, and Saren and the Reapers are our dying man, so to speak.

Maybe, but would it have been in time? Possible, but a lot would have changed:

Tali: Killed in a back ally.
Liara: Killed in the ruins
Garrus: Still trapped within C-sec
Wrex: Never becoming clan-leader to unite his people
Kaidan/ Ash: Still alive


Everything would be different; maybe for the better, maybe for the worse. We'll never know.

Yeah the problem with the situation here is that ME1 is really down to the minute.  Delaying your actions a day pretty much ends the universe.  I think any alternate reality would have to link up pretty early.  Maybe you hear about Tali's evidence from somewhere else, and can still swoop in to save her from Fist's assassins.  Then you learn Saren's a traitor and start from there.

That alternate reality leaves you without Garrus and Wrex, but the main plotline still in tact.  So in conclusion, Powell is responsible for Tali, Garrus and Wrex

[cannedcream]

sergio71785 wrote...

I got an email from my boss complaining that some of my work is late.

It's this thread's fault, too.

Actually, by saying that, I'm indirectly blaming Tali, and I just can't do that. So I take it back.

Let him borrow your copies of ME 1 and 2.
Within a week he'll be right here with us.

[sergio71785]

Collider wrote...

Here's a really great quote in a thread about the pacing of romances in ME2.

JeanLuc761 wrote...
Tali'Zorah:
Tali's
romance was my personal favorite as it has the best pacing out of any
other romance (plus I like her). You already have all your experiences
in the first game going for you which serves as a foundation for her
feelings for you (and yours for her).  This is further driven home on
her recruit mission where several hints are dropped (“I wish Shepard
were here...”) that she cares for you. There's another couple
conversations you have with her before her loyalty mission where you
get to know her a bit better.  They're well paced and neither party is
jumping into things. During Tali's loyalty mission, you build an
incredible emotional connection with her and go through an exceptional
amount of personal turmoil.  If you choose to defend her, this not only
cements her loyalty to you, but your loyalty to her. I like how this is
handled because it's a relationship based upon devotion to one another,
for who that person is. The romance starts after her loyalty mission,
and it's nothing major. She express her interest in you and you can do
so in return. It's fun and flirtatious without coming on too strongly. 
The next convo brings you two together, saying that Shepard is willing
to wait for her, as long as it takes. This isn't (just) about sex, this
is about transcending the physical barriers that hold them apart and it
further drives home that these two are devoted to each other. The next
talk has Tali telling you how much she appreciates your patience, and
really shows how much she wants to be with him. The climax of the
relationship is handled very well as Tali get's flustered but is
quickly overcome with joy when her mask is finally removed. Expertly
paced and very believable in the context of the storyline.

Picard said that? Oh snap!



Kidding aside, I agree. Her romance was just expertly crafted. What the writer's/Liz accomplished was just amazing, worthy of an award. 

[Felipe 058]

So long, and thanks for all the fish! Wait, that quote just went somewhere horrible...

Well I'm going to sleep now. I'll see you all tomorrow. Well today. Unless I don't come back on until past midnight. Or does 'today' end when we go to sleep? Or at 6am? Oh, I'm just babbling like an idiot now 

Keelah se'lai, friends.

[Himmelstor]

Felipe 058 wrote...

So long, and thanks for all the fish! Wait, that quote just went somewhere horrible...

Well I'm going to sleep now. I'll see you all tomorrow. Well today. Unless I don't come back on until past midnight. Or does 'today' end when we go to sleep? Or at 6am? Oh, I'm just babbling like an idiot now 

Keelah se'lai, friends.

Keelah Se'lai, my friend.

[camoboy_19]

Somebody1003 wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

Could you imagine that, him actually helping Shepard? lol

I can! That's the sad this, I really can see him doing something stupid and suicidal to save Shep's life.

Poor guy, I always felt bad for him.
I was nice to him in both ME1 and 2.

Ditto.
Lying A-hole still says I put a gun in his face.
I DID NO SUCH THING! . . .that time. . .

Yeah, he says the same to me too!
I kindly told him to go back to his wife.
I think its a bug for everyones.

OR he could just be a dumb bastard