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[vykvyper1]

Noticed something, decided to play something other than ME2 today (I know... shocking huh?). Fired up my ps3 and loaded up Armored Core for Answer. Realized my core uses nothing but a shotgun and a short-range laserblade... kinda like Tali's shotgun and knife... so I renamed my core Tali...



anyway, don't mind me and my ramblings...

[damage incorp96]

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

That's what I said. But basically any ship that gets within 150,000 km of the flotilla gets challenged by Heavily armed Navy patrols (it doesn't say how many Navy fighters they have). If the incoming ship doesn't give accurate ident phrase it is blown up, no if,ands, or buts. My point is I guess they have a half way decent (not good) defense system, but very little offensive capabilities. hey will lose any war they engage in imho.

[wolfstanus]

vykvyper1 wrote...

Noticed something, decided to play something other than ME2 today (I know... shocking huh?). Fired up my ps3 and loaded up Armored Core for Answer. Realized my core uses nothing but a shotgun and a short-range laserblade... kinda like Tali's shotgun and knife... so I renamed my core Tali...

anyway, don't mind me and my ramblings...

Face palm apply directly to the forehead

[vykvyper1]

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

maybe if peace is achieved, they'll take the fight to the reapers in Geth-made ships...

[The Quarian Sympathizer]

vykvyper1 wrote...

Noticed something, decided to play something other than ME2 today (I know... shocking huh?). Fired up my ps3 and loaded up Armored Core for Answer. Realized my core uses nothing but a shotgun and a short-range laserblade... kinda like Tali's shotgun and knife... so I renamed my core Tali...

anyway, don't mind me and my ramblings...

AC4A is fun. Really nice game concept.

But about the Tali thing? I lol'd

[Huacaya]

sergio71785 wrote...

The quarians will have a chance as long as the Geth don't have any spies.

Well, as we all know, the Geth do not
infiltrate . . .

[RaoulG4668]

Dear god a 6 minute gap?!

[damage incorp96]

vykvyper1 wrote...

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

maybe if peace is achieved, they'll take the fight to the reapers in Geth-made ships...

I would like to see that. I think the key to victory against the reapers will be the quarians and geth cooperating imho.

Modifié par damage incorp96, 21 février 2010 - 05:37 .

[wolfstanus]

Huacaya wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...

The quarians will have a chance as long as the Geth don't have any spies.

Well, as we all know, the Geth do not
infiltrate . . .

Intintionaly

[grayfox4000]

damage incorp96 wrote...

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

That's what I said. But basically any ship that gets within 150,000 km of the flotilla gets challenged by Heavily armed Navy patrols (it doesn't say how many Navy fighters they have). If the incoming ship doesn't give accurate ident phrase it is blown up, no if,ands, or buts. My point is I guess they have a half way decent (not good) defense system, but very little offensive capabilities. hey will lose any war they engage in imho.

I don't think we have any idea what their ships are capable of and numbers are better then how much firepower each single ship has. Combined they can do a hell of alot of damaged and prob take most fleets out that currently exist. The quarians constently upgrade and refit their ships. They have all different classes of ships tho we don't see them all. They are all made from salvaged wrecks of all the races. They prob have the most advanced combination of tech in their ships. They buy these ships for next to nothing because they can make them new again, they also get the ships from abandoned wreck fields. Quarians are master engineers as they can turn a peice of junk into a hot rod with almost nothing. I wouldn't just underestimate their fleet. Keep in mind they have turrian, asari, human, salarian, krogan, and their own quarian tech in these ships combined.

[wolfstanus]

grayfox4000 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

That's what I said. But basically any ship that gets within 150,000 km of the flotilla gets challenged by Heavily armed Navy patrols (it doesn't say how many Navy fighters they have). If the incoming ship doesn't give accurate ident phrase it is blown up, no if,ands, or buts. My point is I guess they have a half way decent (not good) defense system, but very little offensive capabilities. hey will lose any war they engage in imho.

I don't think we have any idea what their ships are capable of and numbers are better then how much firepower each single ship has. Combined they can do a hell of alot of damaged and prob take most fleets out that currently exist. The quarians constently upgrade and refit their ships. They have all different classes of ships tho we don't see them all. They are all made from salvaged wrecks of all the races. They prob have the most advanced combination of tech in their ships. They buy these ships for next to nothing because they can make them new again, they also get the ships from abandoned wreck fields. Quarians are master engineers as they can turn a peice of junk into a hot rod with almost nothing. I wouldn't just underestimate their fleet. Keep in mind they have turrian, asari, human, salarian, krogan, and their own quarian tech in these ships combined.

Forgetting one thing. As of right now they have about 100 years of fleet life left. They are loosing more ships than they can fix/replace.

[damage incorp96]

wolfstanus wrote...

grayfox4000 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

That's what I said. But basically any ship that gets within 150,000 km of the flotilla gets challenged by Heavily armed Navy patrols (it doesn't say how many Navy fighters they have). If the incoming ship doesn't give accurate ident phrase it is blown up, no if,ands, or buts. My point is I guess they have a half way decent (not good) defense system, but very little offensive capabilities. hey will lose any war they engage in imho.

I don't think we have any idea what their ships are capable of and numbers are better then how much firepower each single ship has. Combined they can do a hell of alot of damaged and prob take most fleets out that currently exist. The quarians constently upgrade and refit their ships. They have all different classes of ships tho we don't see them all. They are all made from salvaged wrecks of all the races. They prob have the most advanced combination of tech in their ships. They buy these ships for next to nothing because they can make them new again, they also get the ships from abandoned wreck fields. Quarians are master engineers as they can turn a peice of junk into a hot rod with almost nothing. I wouldn't just underestimate their fleet. Keep in mind they have turrian, asari, human, salarian, krogan, and their own quarian tech in these ships combined.

Forgetting one thing. As of right now they have about 100 years of fleet life left. They are loosing more ships than they can fix/replace.

Bingo

[Huacaya]

I have to agree. The whole flotilla is completely unprepared for war and a terrible base to operate one from. I also don't see the Quarians contributing much to a war effort against the reapers. Even if all the crippling factors of their current situation are ignored, there simply isn't enough of them. There are billions of Humans, billions of Asari, billions of Turians, but only 17 million Quarians. They are, for all intents and purposes, a minor race.

None of which diminishes how awesome Tali is, however.

Modifié par Huacaya, 21 février 2010 - 05:43 .

[DarkwanderStorm]

ah so what did i miss for the past 5 hrs or so

[wolfstanus]

Huacaya wrote...

I have to agree. The whole flotilla is completely unprepared for war and a terrible base to operate one from. I also don't see the Quarians contributing much to a war effort against the reapers. Even if all the crippling factors of their current situation are ignored, there simply isn't enough of them. There are billions of Humans, billions of Asari, billions of Turians, but only 17 million Quarians. There are, for all intents and purposes, a minor race.

None of which diminishes how awesome Tali is, however.

one loop hole. If they co-operate with the geth and play nice the ships they do have will be upgraded to fight the reapers. Since upgrading is fater than building new ships. But we will only know this in about 3 years.

Modifié par wolfstanus, 21 février 2010 - 05:44 .

[grayfox4000]

wolfstanus wrote...

grayfox4000 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

That's what I said. But basically any ship that gets within 150,000 km of the flotilla gets challenged by Heavily armed Navy patrols (it doesn't say how many Navy fighters they have). If the incoming ship doesn't give accurate ident phrase it is blown up, no if,ands, or buts. My point is I guess they have a half way decent (not good) defense system, but very little offensive capabilities. hey will lose any war they engage in imho.

I don't think we have any idea what their ships are capable of and numbers are better then how much firepower each single ship has. Combined they can do a hell of alot of damaged and prob take most fleets out that currently exist. The quarians constently upgrade and refit their ships. They have all different classes of ships tho we don't see them all. They are all made from salvaged wrecks of all the races. They prob have the most advanced combination of tech in their ships. They buy these ships for next to nothing because they can make them new again, they also get the ships from abandoned wreck fields. Quarians are master engineers as they can turn a peice of junk into a hot rod with almost nothing. I wouldn't just underestimate their fleet. Keep in mind they have turrian, asari, human, salarian, krogan, and their own quarian tech in these ships combined.

Forgetting one thing. As of right now they have about 100 years of fleet life left. They are loosing more ships than they can fix/replace.

Where do you hear that from in the game? Shepard says they have the most formitable fleet in the galaxy but they can't take on the geth. That sounds like to me they have the best fleet in the galaxy. Don't be fooled by how old their ships are or that most of their ships are not even quarian anymore. You must realize they are not flying quarian ships in most of their fleet because their ships are bought for next to nothing or wrecks and have been restored to new and constently modified and upgraded. Its not like they are behind times by any means. They use the latest XTX computers even. Same computers in the normandy.

[NuclearBuddha]

I would suggest that if the quarians have a part to play against the Reapers, it would be in a support role, providing repairs or logistical support.



Trying to use an evacuation fleet in a line battle is probably not going to help them or anyone else.

[vykvyper1]

Huacaya wrote...

I have to agree. The whole flotilla is completely unprepared for war and a terrible base to operate one from. I also don't see the Quarians contributing much to a war effort against the reapers. Even if all the crippling factors of their current situation are ignored, there simply isn't enough of them. There are billions of Humans, billions of Asari, billions of Turians, but only 17 million Quarians. There are, for all intents and purposes, a minor race.

None of which diminishes how awesome Tali is, however.

They strike me, not as fighters, but as the key to rallying the Geth against the reapers. Like you said, they have become a fragile race in and of themselves, but they have the potential to be a powerful catalyst.

[Angelraid]

wolfstanus wrote...

*snip*


Im thinking Quariens will look Amphibian. Just by looking at their ships and their build. But im probably wrong on this.

Codex says they quarians developed from mammal analogs so.... yeah just putting that out there.

def dont have mandibles from arthropods though like in that pic

[damage incorp96]

Huacaya wrote...

I have to agree. The whole flotilla is completely unprepared for war and a terrible base to operate one from. I also don't see the Quarians contributing much to a war effort against the reapers. Even if all the crippling factors of their current situation are ignored, there simply isn't enough of them. There are billions of Humans, billions of Asari, billions of Turians, but only 17 million Quarians. There are, for all intents and purposes, a minor race.

None of which diminishes how awesome Tali is, however.

agreed. A fleet is a good thing to have, but only if you have a base of operations. If the Quarians joined w/ other races as allies all the reapers have to do is cripple them. Imagine 2 -3 ships go in and destroy 1 or 2 liveships that the quarians have. You don't destroy the whole fleet, just the liveships. The quarians are destined to a very slow death of starvation. Similar way with patrols, don't kill but wound, takes more soldiers out of the fight to care for wounded. Allies would have to take production from weapons to food to eliminate starvation problem. It a tactical win for the reapers. I just realized how much I am overthinking this game, talking about production and tactical situations. It might be time for bed.

[SirEmilCrane]

Huacaya wrote...

I have to agree. The whole flotilla is completely unprepared for war and a terrible base to operate one from. I also don't see the Quarians contributing much to a war effort against the reapers. Even if all the crippling factors of their current situation are ignored, there simply isn't enough of them. There are billions of Humans, billions of Asari, billions of Turians, but only 17 million Quarians. They are, for all intents and purposes, a minor race.

None of which diminishes how awesome Tali is, however.

Yes they probably have a ramshacle fleet but they probably have the most expierenced crews in the galaxy considering they live on ships their entire live

[Scy Lancer]

You never really hear about the Quarians Navy force. It's not exactly their thing. A military force isn't a big priority. Which would explain why all their marines die. I could see them using their tech skills to upgrade other ships though to fight the Reapers.

[damage incorp96]

grayfox4000 wrote...

wolfstanus wrote...

grayfox4000 wrote...

damage incorp96 wrote...

_Devout_ wrote...

They have the biggest fleet in the galaxy. It doesn't mean that all the ships are well equipped for fighting, it's just that they have the most space farring vessels currently in service.

That's what I said. But basically any ship that gets within 150,000 km of the flotilla gets challenged by Heavily armed Navy patrols (it doesn't say how many Navy fighters they have). If the incoming ship doesn't give accurate ident phrase it is blown up, no if,ands, or buts. My point is I guess they have a half way decent (not good) defense system, but very little offensive capabilities. hey will lose any war they engage in imho.

I don't think we have any idea what their ships are capable of and numbers are better then how much firepower each single ship has. Combined they can do a hell of alot of damaged and prob take most fleets out that currently exist. The quarians constently upgrade and refit their ships. They have all different classes of ships tho we don't see them all. They are all made from salvaged wrecks of all the races. They prob have the most advanced combination of tech in their ships. They buy these ships for next to nothing because they can make them new again, they also get the ships from abandoned wreck fields. Quarians are master engineers as they can turn a peice of junk into a hot rod with almost nothing. I wouldn't just underestimate their fleet. Keep in mind they have turrian, asari, human, salarian, krogan, and their own quarian tech in these ships combined.

Forgetting one thing. As of right now they have about 100 years of fleet life left. They are loosing more ships than they can fix/replace.

Where do you hear that from in the game? Shepard says they have the most formitable fleet in the galaxy but they can't take on the geth. That sounds like to me they have the best fleet in the galaxy. Don't be fooled by how old their ships are or that most of their ships are not even quarian anymore. You must realize they are not flying quarian ships in most of their fleet because their ships are bought for next to nothing or wrecks and have been restored to new and constently modified and upgraded. Its not like they are behind times by any means. They use the latest XTX computers even. Same computers in the normandy.

Read Ascension. It will give you alot of info on Quarians. Ships are falling apart they are in a desperate situation where they need to find somewhere to settle in the next generation or two.

[cutthecameras]

I'd like Tali in my squad for ME3. It's unfortunate she died. I don't agree with going back and changing what I originally did in order to make sure she lives, even if she was one of my favorite characters. I will definitely do things differently in other playthroughs of ME2 but I'll import my original file (with her dead) to ME3 first.



Just trying to embrace the uniqueness of my ending...I wonder if Kal Reegar will make good on his threat. It would be sad if Tali is barely mentioned at all in my first playthrough of ME3; I guess it'll just give me something to look forward to for when I import a file where she lived into part 3 : )



Oh! I forgot to mention. All of what I just said is forfeit if I hear anything about Tali being a romance option for fem shep in ME3..sooo...yeah.

[wolfstanus]

grayfox4000 wrote...

 Where do you hear that from in the game? Shepard says they have the most formitable fleet in the galaxy but they can't take on the geth. That sounds like to me they have the best fleet in the galaxy. Don't be fooled by how old their ships are or that most of their ships are not even quarian anymore. You must realize they are not flying quarian ships in most of their fleet because their ships are bought for next to nothing or wrecks and have been restored to new and constently modified and upgraded. Its not like they are behind times by any means. They use the latest XTX computers even. Same computers in the normandy.

This is as much as I want to post of the book. but there is more to the conversation.

Ascension book page 296.

Mal vas Idenna
"The Migrant Fleet is dying, itis a long, slow almost invisible death"