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[sergio71785]

"I'll stand right behind you. That armor's in good condition, yes?" 

That's not verbatim what she said, but something along those lines. 

[Jake71887]

sergio71785 wrote...

I've found it tempting to talk like Mordin. It's...appealing to avoid the "fluff" in sentences.

Same, but randomly throwing in periods isn't really talking without fluff.. it's just randomly throwing in periods 

[Goat_Shepard]

Phil725 wrote...

I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure EA handled the entire ad campaign, Bioware either had nothing, or little to do with promoting Miranda over Tali. 

That said, as far as promotions go, it's a smart move to promote the known star (Yvonne Strahovsky,) attractive character over the good friend with the emotional connection.  That comes off pretty bad in 5 seconds of a commercial.

I would also consider people who played ME 1 or 2 once through quickly and that's it to be a small minority.  It's definitely not the majority or mainstream crowd.

I see what you mean. I'm just wondering with the whole "EA marketing" that they were reaching out to a broader audience( who would go for Miranda, so the trailer makes sense) so I thought the demographic would change a lot from ME1 to ME2.

[Jake71887]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Exactly. If you don't have her in your squad (like I did my first ME1 playthrough) you don't get all that personal stuff. It took another playthrough and having her in my squad cuz I "already rolled with Garrus and Liara" to appreciate her. Now after so many playthroughs, you finally learn which characters you love the most and which you love to hate (Ashley ), and Tali and Garrus and Wrex are the only ones I can't get enough of and make sure I talk to every playthrough. Other's I could care less (cruel I know).

Not sure what you're saying, most of Tali's personal information I learned from talking to her in the engine room... 

[Yuri_ii]

runescapeguy9 wrote...

Well, time to head home. Will return in one hour or so.

Keelah Se'lai.

Keelah Se'lei.

[timedrake32]

ok guys i'm back did i miss anything?

[Goat_Shepard]

Jake71887 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Exactly. If you don't have her in your squad (like I did my first ME1 playthrough) you don't get all that personal stuff. It took another playthrough and having her in my squad cuz I "already rolled with Garrus and Liara" to appreciate her. Now after so many playthroughs, you finally learn which characters you love the most and which you love to hate (Ashley ), and Tali and Garrus and Wrex are the only ones I can't get enough of and make sure I talk to every playthrough. Other's I could care less (cruel I know).

Not sure what you're saying, most of Tali's personal information I learned from talking to her in the engine room... 

Oh cmon, convos in the engine room consisted of Quarian culture, government, etc. In ME2 she still talked about Quarians but she got more detailed and the enviro-suit convo and "bubble" conversations were a lot more personal. As the previous poster said the elevator conversations were essential.

[sergio71785]

Jake71887 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Exactly. If you don't have her in your squad (like I did my first ME1 playthrough) you don't get all that personal stuff. It took another playthrough and having her in my squad cuz I "already rolled with Garrus and Liara" to appreciate her. Now after so many playthroughs, you finally learn which characters you love the most and which you love to hate (Ashley ), and Tali and Garrus and Wrex are the only ones I can't get enough of and make sure I talk to every playthrough. Other's I could care less (cruel I know).

Not sure what you're saying, most of Tali's personal information I learned from talking to her in the engine room... 

In the engine room a lot of her dialog involves Quarian culture and whatnot. What he's saying is that a lot of the dialog that lets you know about her personality comes from her commentary on missions.

Some exceptions of course, It made me smile when she thanked me for treating her so well, while talking in the engine room. 

[vykvyper1]

reading her entry in TVTropes  got me thinking.

She DOES have the hacking skills of, or even greater than, Legion (no disrespect toward Legion!)... so she's able to out-hack the Geth... like the race... not necessarily just one... that's pretty awesome...

and she really isn't lacking in the self-esteem department either. She expresses some nervousness when faced with adversity/revelation (her trial and her romance respectively) but other than that, she gives off an "I'm good and I know it!" vibe. Especially when going through her default dialogue about the new Normandy... I like that btw

[Jake71887]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Exactly. If you don't have her in your squad (like I did my first ME1 playthrough) you don't get all that personal stuff. It took another playthrough and having her in my squad cuz I "already rolled with Garrus and Liara" to appreciate her. Now after so many playthroughs, you finally learn which characters you love the most and which you love to hate (Ashley ), and Tali and Garrus and Wrex are the only ones I can't get enough of and make sure I talk to every playthrough. Other's I could care less (cruel I know).

Not sure what you're saying, most of Tali's personal information I learned from talking to her in the engine room... 

Oh cmon, convos in the engine room consisted of Quarian culture, government, etc. In ME2 she still talked about Quarians but she got more detailed and the enviro-suit convo and "bubble" conversations were a lot more personal. As the previous poster said the elevator conversations were essential.

Oh... I guess all that stuff about what her plans were, how she was treated ont he flotilla, and allt hat stuff about her family wasn't personal.. my mistake 

[Phil725]

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

I may be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure EA handled the entire ad campaign, Bioware either had nothing, or little to do with promoting Miranda over Tali. 

That said, as far as promotions go, it's a smart move to promote the known star (Yvonne Strahovsky,) attractive character over the good friend with the emotional connection.  That comes off pretty bad in 5 seconds of a commercial.

I would also consider people who played ME 1 or 2 once through quickly and that's it to be a small minority.  It's definitely not the majority or mainstream crowd.

I see what you mean. I'm just wondering with the whole "EA marketing" that they were reaching out to a broader audience( who would go for Miranda, so the trailer makes sense) so I thought the demographic would change a lot from ME1 to ME2.

I personally hated the ad campaign, it definitely felt like they were trying to appeal to a younger/less intelligent crowd.  They made sure to focus on boobs and explosions and other shallow stuff.  Similar with the romance trailer.  Miranda was plastered all over it, as was Samara for obvious reasons.  Tali appears once for a second or two.  And Samara wasn't even an LI.

I look at it as anyone who would buy the game because of Tali, obviously liked the first one enough that they would buy the second, and thus, no reason to market her.

I'm sure ME2 picked up a lot of new fans who would go for Miranda over Tali, but the results from around the internet pretty clearly have Tali in the lead for a number of reasons.

[sergio71785]

[Jake71887]

Phil725 wrote...
I'm sure ME2 picked up a lot of new fans who would go for Miranda over Tali, but the results from around the internet pretty clearly have Tali in the lead for a number of reasons.

Because the kind of people attracted to big boobs aren't internet nerds with nothing better to do than lurk forums? 

[Goat_Shepard]

Jake71887 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Exactly. If you don't have her in your squad (like I did my first ME1 playthrough) you don't get all that personal stuff. It took another playthrough and having her in my squad cuz I "already rolled with Garrus and Liara" to appreciate her. Now after so many playthroughs, you finally learn which characters you love the most and which you love to hate (Ashley ), and Tali and Garrus and Wrex are the only ones I can't get enough of and make sure I talk to every playthrough. Other's I could care less (cruel I know).

Not sure what you're saying, most of Tali's personal information I learned from talking to her in the engine room... 

Oh cmon, convos in the engine room consisted of Quarian culture, government, etc. In ME2 she still talked about Quarians but she got more detailed and the enviro-suit convo and "bubble" conversations were a lot more personal. As the previous poster said the elevator conversations were essential.

Oh... I guess all that stuff about what her plans were, how she was treated ont he flotilla, and allt hat stuff about her family wasn't personal.. my mistake 

I know what you're saying and I agree with you. You learn all there is to know about Quarians and her Pilgrimage. I'm just saying because of the Ally achievements, I was forced to do playthroughs keeping 2 ppl in my squad the whole time. So when I finally got Tali in my squad for 100% of the playthrough, I noticed so much more about her based on little "Talk to Tali" options here and a cutscene there. I appreciated her character more and it's how I became a fanboy of hers 

My brothers on the other hand didn't have her in their squad and they also skip dialogue so I'll not mention them again  "Where's the blood, bro? I want to shoot sumfing in the hedd"

[Pauravi]

Jake71887 wrote...

Goat_Shepard wrote...

Exactly. If you don't have her in your squad (like I did my first ME1 playthrough) you don't get all that personal stuff. It took another playthrough and having her in my squad cuz I "already rolled with Garrus and Liara" to appreciate her. Now after so many playthroughs, you finally learn which characters you love the most and which you love to hate (Ashley ), and Tali and Garrus and Wrex are the only ones I can't get enough of and make sure I talk to every playthrough. Other's I could care less (cruel I know).

Not sure what you're saying, most of Tali's personal information I learned from talking to her in the engine room... 

Oh really?  What did you learn about Tali in the engine room?

That Quarians are governed by the Conclave and Admiralty board?  Oh wait, thats about Quarians in General.
That Quarians have weak immune systems due to sterile ship environments?  Oh wait...
That they created the Geth and had to flee their homeworld to live on a floatilla?  Oh wait...
That the Geth share networked computing resources to create higher intellect?  Not even about Quarians!

... well, you DO learn that her dad is a military authoritarian and that her mom is dead, but what does that tell you about Tali?  Not much, really.

Oh!  You also learn that Quarians have to go on a pilgrimage to prove.... oh wait.

[Jake71887]

sergio71785 wrote...

Valentine's already?

[sergio71785]

 I started using Tali the moment she became available. Dem hips lured me in, dat personality trapped me in. <3

Modifié par sergio71785, 09 mars 2010 - 07:38 .

[sergio71785]

It's always Valentines day in the Tali thread.

[Jake71887]

Pauravi wrote...

Oh really?  What did you learn about Tali in the engine room?

That Quarians are governed by the Conclave and Admiralty board?  Oh wait, thats about Quarians in General.
That Quarians have weak immune systems due to sterile ship environments?  Oh wait...
That they created the Geth and had to flee their homeworld to live on a floatilla?  Oh wait...
That the Geth share networked computing resources to create higher intellect?  Not even about Quarians!

... well, you DO learn that her dad is a military authoritarian and that her mom is dead, but what does that tell you about Tali?  Not much, really.

Oh!  You also learn that Quarians have to go on a pilgrimage to prove.... oh wait.

Learning a person's past, specifically what they grew up around, has far more insight for me on a person's personality. than hearing one liners at random points... 

[Goat_Shepard]

Phil725 wrote...

I personally hated the ad campaign, it definitely felt like they were trying to appeal to a younger/less intelligent crowd.  They made sure to focus on boobs and explosions and other shallow stuff.  Similar with the romance trailer.  Miranda was plastered all over it, as was Samara for obvious reasons.  Tali appears once for a second or two.  And Samara wasn't even an LI.

lol that makes me lol cuz I did watch the "romance trailer". Bewbs is bewbs. I like 'em, but that's for my time irl, in gamez I WANNA DO ALIENZ!

[FsDxRAGE]

Valentines day pic is cool

[Phil725]

Jake71887 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
I'm sure ME2 picked up a lot of new fans who would go for Miranda over Tali, but the results from around the internet pretty clearly have Tali in the lead for a number of reasons.

Because the kind of people attracted to big boobs aren't internet nerds with nothing better to do than lurk forums? 

Plenty of people are attracted to big boobs, from people who don't want to lurk around on forums, to pre-pubescent boys who have nothing to do besides ****** to the hottest character and spew vitriol over the internet.  I like to think it balances out.

[Jake71887]

Phil725 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
I'm sure ME2 picked up a lot of new fans who would go for Miranda over Tali, but the results from around the internet pretty clearly have Tali in the lead for a number of reasons.

Because the kind of people attracted to big boobs aren't internet nerds with nothing better to do than lurk forums? 

Plenty of people are attracted to big boobs, from people who don't want to lurk around on forums, to pre-pubescent boys who have nothing to do besides ****** to the hottest character and spew vitriol over the internet.  I like to think it balances out.

It was a joke 

[Phil725]

Jake71887 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Jake71887 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...
I'm sure ME2 picked up a lot of new fans who would go for Miranda over Tali, but the results from around the internet pretty clearly have Tali in the lead for a number of reasons.

Because the kind of people attracted to big boobs aren't internet nerds with nothing better to do than lurk forums? 

Plenty of people are attracted to big boobs, from people who don't want to lurk around on forums, to pre-pubescent boys who have nothing to do besides ****** to the hottest character and spew vitriol over the internet.  I like to think it balances out.

It was a joke 

Sorry my bad, I can see the argument that people who like Tali are more apt to be on internet forums though, and have seen it made before.  That's why it wasn't clear to me.