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[Angelraid]

Yazman wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Yazman wrote...

*snip

Sorry, but that isn't mechanical power at all. What you are saying is that organic beings are analogous to machines but to say they are actually machines themselves contradicts both academic definitions as well as "dictionary definitions."


I do agree that they are analogous but they aren't the same at all.

Dictionary Definition:

"an apparatus (body) consisting of interrelated parts  with separate functions (cells,organs,systems), used in the performance of some kind of work (life)"

Random House Dictionary, © Random House, Inc. 2010. Quotes added for relavance.

But wait there more

"An intricate natural system or organism, such as the human body."

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright © 2009 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Edit: pic snip

Not sure what word you're using there but I can't find anything that supports that:

Princeton defines "machine" as such:

S: (n) machine (any mechanical or electrical
device that transmits or modifies energy to perform or assist in the
performance of human tasks)

http://wordnetweb.pr...webwn?s=machine

machine was the word - sources cited. If you cant find its cuase your not looking.

Also in -ahem- "acadamia" The word organic means

Relating to chemical compounds containing carbon, especially hydrocarbons.

The American Heritage® Science Dictionary
Copyright © 2002. Published by Houghton Mifflin. All rights reserved.



And yes in biologist I can firmly say that the human body is considered an orgainc (read above) machine.
It's not magic

XFD. You are seriously trying to tell me that the "academic definition" of organic is coming from a dictionary? 

Dictionaries are written by lexicographers, not scientists. You're going to have to go find some real research if you want to get definitions from the disciplines.

Its a scientific dictionary if you bothered to read.

Even national geographic disagrees with you, not a scientific journal but certainly more credible than anything you bothered to cite

http://channel.natio...-3077/Overview#

Modifié par Geth Hunter Alpha, 10 mars 2010 - 07:23 .

[Yazman]

slackbheep wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Ehh I don't know, humans don't qualify as machines at all. A machine is something mechanical, that uses mechanical energy to power itself.

It depends where you draw the line. A machine is a device that uses energy to perform a task, As we learn more about conciousness it seems more and more the case that it's just a "bag of tricks", to quote Dan Dennet.

But it doesn't just use energy to perform a task - its also something that was created to assist us perform that task. A tool - it can be either simple or complex.

Also Geth Hunter Alpha, as far as you are concerned the discussion is over. If you can't hold a debate without using stupid 4chan-style pictures and being disrespectful, you are worthy of just being ignored rather than responded to.

Modifié par Yazman, 10 mars 2010 - 07:16 .

[videowiz186]

Snip quotes, please. Do not want quote wall.

*Glaring at Geth Hunter Alpha*

[danteshepard]

Yazman wrote...

slackbheep wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Ehh I don't know, humans don't qualify as machines at all. A machine is something mechanical, that uses mechanical energy to power itself.

It depends where you draw the line. A machine is a device that uses energy to perform a task, As we learn more about conciousness it seems more and more the case that it's just a "bag of tricks", to quote Dan Dennet.

But it doesn't just use energy to perform a task - its also something that was created to assist us perform that task. A tool - it can be either simple or complex.

this has gone far enough! you're not even on the originsl topic you started on of wheather you trust the geth! SHUT UP AND LOVE TALI!

[Himmelstor]

videowiz186 wrote...

Snip quotes, please. Do not want quote wall.
*Glaring at Geth Hunter Alpha*

Sent message concerning quote walls. Have been ignored.

[Felipe 058]

sergio71785 wrote...

Mike4PA wrote...

ALL OF THESE TALIS DON'T LIKE THE OFF TOPIC BANTER!

Heeeellloooooo colossus armor Tali....

Indeed. Colossus armor looked soooo much better than the rest. But the ME2 new hawtness that is Tali's new envirosuit 

[Yazman]

danteshepard wrote...

Yazman wrote...

slackbheep wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Ehh I don't know, humans don't qualify as machines at all. A machine is something mechanical, that uses mechanical energy to power itself.

It depends where you draw the line. A machine is a device that uses energy to perform a task, As we learn more about conciousness it seems more and more the case that it's just a "bag of tricks", to quote Dan Dennet.

But it doesn't just use energy to perform a task - its also something that was created to assist us perform that task. A tool - it can be either simple or complex.

this has gone far enough! you're not even on the originsl topic you started on of wheather you trust the geth! SHUT UP AND LOVE TALI!

Good point  Tali is the best!

[Yazman]

Himmelstor wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

Snip quotes, please. Do not want quote wall.
*Glaring at Geth Hunter Alpha*

Sent message concerning quote walls. Have been ignored.

I didn't ignore you, Doc. I did go back and snip a few posts.

[danteshepard]

Felipe 058 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
Heeeellloooooo colossus armor Tali....

Indeed. Colossus armor looked soooo much better than the rest. But the ME2 new hawtness that is Tali's new envirosuit 

QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

[Angelraid]

videowiz186 wrote...

Snip quotes, please. Do not want quote wall.
*Glaring at Geth Hunter Alpha*

sorry i did, I guess i need to snip it more.

[Himmelstor]

Yazman wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

videowiz186 wrote...

Snip quotes, please. Do not want quote wall.
*Glaring at Geth Hunter Alpha*

Sent message concerning quote walls. Have been ignored.

I didn't ignore you, Doc. I did go back and snip a few posts.

Was referring to other person who quote walls.

[Himmelstor]

danteshepard wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
Heeeellloooooo colossus armor Tali....

Indeed. Colossus armor looked soooo much better than the rest. But the ME2 new hawtness that is Tali's new envirosuit 

QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

No. Also prefer, though loyalty outfit has advantages.

[GMR25]

So, what fan groups are everyone in, other than Tali's fan group?

[Jakegnosis]

Felipe 058 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
Heeeellloooooo colossus armor Tali....

Indeed. Colossus armor looked soooo much better than the rest. But the ME2 new hawtness that is Tali's new envirosuit 

I hated the colossus armor, personally.  It made her look like Lord Tali'Vader nar Rayya or something.  The original purple is by far the best, but the blue one's not bad either.  The rest are hideous, especially the yellow Survivor version, which Tali is sadly stuck with in my current ME1 playthrough.

[danteshepard]

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

No. Also prefer, though loyalty outfit has advantages.

I must have missed something, besides showing you have her loyalty what is advantage? colorscheme of outfit clashes horridly purple and gold do not work.

[Himmelstor]

GMR25 wrote...

So, what fan groups are everyone in, other than Tali's fan group?

Am Doctor of Waffles in National Waffle Association.
Other three are Tali related.

[Angelraid]

Yazman wrote...

slackbheep wrote...

Yazman wrote...

Ehh I don't know, humans don't qualify as machines at all. A machine is something mechanical, that uses mechanical energy to power itself.

It depends where you draw the line. A machine is a device that uses energy to perform a task, As we learn more about conciousness it seems more and more the case that it's just a "bag of tricks", to quote Dan Dennet.

But it doesn't just use energy to perform a task - its also something that was created to assist us perform that task. A tool - it can be either simple or complex.

Also Geth Hunter Alpha, as far as you are concerned the discussion is over. If you can't hold a debate without using stupid 4chan-style pictures and being disrespectful, you are worthy of just being ignored rather than responded to.

Well the pic was totally appropriate for the fact that the dictionary definition even specifically referenced the human body. Also I was never disrespectful or used personal insults in my arguements which were clearly cited and easily verified. If you wish to concede however that is your initiative to do so.

[Himmelstor]

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

No. Also prefer, though loyalty outfit has advantages.

I must have missed something, besides showing you have her loyalty what is advantage? colorscheme of outfit clashes horridly purple and gold do not work.

Like gold. Third favorite color.

[Felipe 058]

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

sergio71785 wrote...
Heeeellloooooo colossus armor Tali....

Indeed. Colossus armor looked soooo much better than the rest. But the ME2 new hawtness that is Tali's new envirosuit 

QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

No. Also prefer, though loyalty outfit has advantages.

I like the post-loyalty outfit better because of the gold accents and the lighter-colored swirls, but it's nevertheless my personal preference 

[Jakegnosis]

GMR25 wrote...

So, what fan groups are everyone in, other than Tali's fan group?

The Jacob fan group and Fight for the Love.

[GMR25]

Himmelstor wrote...

GMR25 wrote...

So, what fan groups are everyone in, other than Tali's fan group?

Am Doctor of Waffles in National Waffle Association.
Other three are Tali related.

I meant character fan groups, like Miranda's fan group, or Thane's.

[Jakegnosis]

danteshepard wrote...
QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

I love the loyalty one.  All the gold makes her look like the princess she is.

[Himmelstor]

GMR25 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

GMR25 wrote...

So, what fan groups are everyone in, other than Tali's fan group?

Am Doctor of Waffles in National Waffle Association.
Other three are Tali related.

I meant character fan groups, like Miranda's fan group, or Thane's.

Oh. Fine. None. Is no Mordin group as far as known...

[Felipe 058]

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

QUICK QUESTION, AM i THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKES TALI'S NON LOYAL OUTFIT BETTER THAT THE LOYALTY ONE? ...damn caps lock too lazy to go back and retype.

No. Also prefer, though loyalty outfit has advantages.

I must have missed something, besides showing you have her loyalty what is advantage? colorscheme of outfit clashes horridly purple and gold do not work.

I find that insulting!  Those are my university's colors, and they go splendidly together.

[danteshepard]

GMR25 wrote...

So, what fan groups are everyone in, other than Tali's fan group?

formerly of /b/ quit after discovering this place.
part of interglactic society for advancement of peaceful quarian and geth relations, as well as president and CEO of Talihax inc. providing all your comp hax needs for having tali from ME2' beginning.