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[cannedcream]

I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Such base creatures humans are... (Yes, I am indeed aware that I just insulted myself in that final statement as well.)

No other reason needed at all.

Tali is one of the few characters I liked that I don't really think of in a sexual way.
I liked her because I liked the person that she was, flaws and all.
If I were in Shepard's shoes (space boots) I honestly wouldn't care if there could never be any sort of sexual interaction because it's the kind, sweet, unselfish person that Tali is that really drew me in to her.
You can be damn sure that if I ever found a person like that in real life I'd worship that girl like a goddess.

[danteshepard]

Himmelstor wrote...

Mike4PA wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

People wanted to have sex with Tali

People don't want to have sex with Modrin.

Oh, I'm not sure about that.
I'm sure that someone somewhere wants to jump his Salarian bones.

Yeah but he won't have it. I talked to him in game and he just talked about how all of these girls want him, but he is too old to be intrested its sad, I would hook him up with samara or someone. I want my scientist to be happy

Appreciated. But prefer to study cell reproduction.
Less alcohol and mood music required.

Is that what they called it back then doc?

[Angelraid]

Jakegnosis wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Such base creatures humans are... (Yes, I am indeed aware that I just insulted myself in that final statement as well.)

I agree with everything you just said.  I cared about every character in ME2 (well, almost every... sorry, Grunt), and I want the best for all of them.  I'm interested in finding out what happens to all of them, and hopefully I'll be able to see some happy endings in ME3.

You didn't like grunt? But he used puns,

"Humans, Asari, Salarian too squishy. Quarian not so much. Turian, well i guess you gotta work it with a knife. But then whats the point. Point..... heheheh.... nevermind"

Also anyone wonder what he meant when he said quarians werent so squishy?

[Collider]

Felipe 058 wrote...
I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Exactly. ]

[Himmelstor]

Himmelstor wrote...

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[Collider]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...
Also anyone wonder what he meant when he said quarians werent so squishy?

Quarian bodies are denser and/or he's referring to the suit.

[danteshepard]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

You didn't like grunt? But he used puns,

"Humans, Asari, Salarian too squishy. Quarian not so much. Turian, well i guess you gotta work it with a knife. But then whats the point. Point..... heheheh.... nevermind"

Also anyone wonder what he meant when he said quarians werent so squishy?

 been over this several times. most likely refernce to envirosuits. bone stucture also possibility.

[videowiz186]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

You didn't like grunt? But he used puns,

"Humans, Asari, Salarian too squishy. Quarian not so much. Turian, well i guess you gotta work it with a knife. But then whats the point. Point..... heheheh.... nevermind"

Also anyone wonder what he meant when he said quarians werent so squishy?

May be referring to suit? Do not know. Most likely answer, however.

[Pauravi]

Felipe 058 wrote...

I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves?

Of course, which is why Tali's group is so big.  They aren't ONLY interested in the sex, but people always have stronger feelings for someone they want to actually romance... what's so hard to get about that?

Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically.

There you go.  Without the"sex" aspect, it is an intellectual and emotional relationship only.  I.e. "friends".  Good friends, maybe, but still friends.

But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others.That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Well... yes, otherwise your romance doesn't make any sense.  If you didn't want any sort of physical bond with her, why romance her?  Would you be content if they had just made her your real good friend?  If instead of saying, "I want to feel your skin on mine..." she just said, "Gee Shepard, you're such a good friend to me, thanks for being there".  Would you have found that just as fulfilling?  Because I certainly wouldn't, and it isn't because I don't care about personality; it is because I care about all aspects of a romantic relationship.

Oh, and I don't consider it "base" to believe that sex is an important part of a relationship, either.
Maybe that's just me.

[Himmelstor]

danteshepard wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Mike4PA wrote...

cannedcream wrote...

People wanted to have sex with Tali

People don't want to have sex with Modrin.

Oh, I'm not sure about that.
I'm sure that someone somewhere wants to jump his Salarian bones.

Yeah but he won't have it. I talked to him in game and he just talked about how all of these girls want him, but he is too old to be intrested its sad, I would hook him up with samara or someone. I want my scientist to be happy

Appreciated. But prefer to study cell reproduction.
Less alcohol and mood music required.

Is that what they called it back then doc?

Can't make battlemaster any more sterile...*glares at danteshepard*

[Lareit]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Jakegnosis wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Such base creatures humans are... (Yes, I am indeed aware that I just insulted myself in that final statement as well.)

I agree with everything you just said.  I cared about every character in ME2 (well, almost every... sorry, Grunt), and I want the best for all of them.  I'm interested in finding out what happens to all of them, and hopefully I'll be able to see some happy endings in ME3.

You didn't like grunt? But he used puns,

"Humans, Asari, Salarian too squishy. Quarian not so much. Turian, well i guess you gotta work it with a knife. But then whats the point. Point..... heheheh.... nevermind"

Also anyone wonder what he meant when he said quarians werent so squishy?

Grumble, if i had a dollar every time someone messed up this quote, grumble

"Less then an inch deep to server your spine. Your soft. Salarians, asari, all soft. Quarians not so much. Turians you have to work the blade I guess. Never saw much point though. Heh, "much point", ahh nevermind."

[Felipe 058]

Himmelstor wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...
I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Such base creatures humans are... (Yes, I am indeed aware that I just insulted myself in that final statement as well.)

...still wish to return for events of Mass Effect 3...

I'm not saying it was a bad thing; what I'm saying is bad is when that's all people care about, which is the reason why some people (some, not all, not nearly all) went for Miranda and/or Jack. Sex is just one of many ways to affirm and add depth and meaning to a relationship, but it in no way should be the sole reason for pursuing a relationship, whether in game or IRL.

[cannedcream]

Appreciated. But prefer to study cell reproduction.
Less alcohol and mood music required.

Heh. Always nice to have the option, though.

[Jakegnosis]

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

You didn't like grunt? But he used puns,

"Humans, Asari, Salarian too squishy. Quarian not so much. Turian, well i guess you gotta work it with a knife. But then whats the point. Point..... heheheh.... nevermind"

And that was the high point of his characterization, really. 

Geth Hunter Alpha wrote...

Also anyone wonder what he meant when he said quarians werent so squishy?

I'm in the camp that thinks it's because of the exosuits.

[Himmelstor]

Actually do not mind Grunt. Fascinating specimen.

Also becomes most content member of crew.

[Lareit]

Pauravi wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves?

Of course, which is why Tali's group is so big.  They aren't ONLY interested in the sex, but people always have stronger feelings for someone they want to actually romance... what's so hard to get about that?

Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically.

There you go.  Without the"sex" aspect, it is an intellectual and emotional relationship only.  I.e. "friends".  Good friends, maybe, but still friends.

But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others.That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Well... yes, otherwise your romance doesn't make any sense.  If you didn't want any sort of physical bond with her, why romance her?  Would you be content if they had just made her your real good friend?  If instead of saying, "I want to feel your skin on mine..." she just said, "Gee Shepard, you're such a good friend to me, thanks for being there".  Would you have found that just as fulfilling?  Because I certainly wouldn't, and it isn't because I don't care about personality; it is because I care about all aspects of a romantic relationship.

Oh, and I don't consider it "base" to believe that sex is an important part of a relationship, either.
Maybe that's just me.

No, you're correct. Everyone else is simply in denial over it.

Sex is important for a healthy relationship. Physical contact is vital for a romance.

[danteshepard]

Felipe 058 wrote...
I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

actually enjoy symbolism in relationship. You are the only person who has seen beyond her mask, it's symbolic and a very intimite guesture of trust. She even mentions it "I've never shown my face to anyone. But I'm willing to show you, if I can do it without dieing."
That's main reason why I'm against bioware revealing her face. it's something for her and shepard to know.
Does that make sense?

[HK01]

Himmelstor wrote...

Appreciated. But prefer to study cell reproduction.
Less alcohol and mood music required.

So we have a second Scalpels now

[videowiz186]

Am retiring for night. If haven't already, read and comment on Part 17 of Salvation or Destruction! Now must return to Captain's Cabin. Must not keep Tali waiting. VW signing out.



Keelah Se'lai, my friends!

[Felipe 058]

Jakegnosis wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...

I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

Such base creatures humans are... (Yes, I am indeed aware that I just insulted myself in that final statement as well.)

I agree with everything you just said.  I cared about every character in ME2 (well, almost every... sorry, Grunt), and I want the best for all of them.  I'm interested in finding out what happens to all of them, and hopefully I'll be able to see some happy endings in ME3.

Without going to far outside the realm of Tali, I actually liked Grunt a lot. He knew he pissed off Shepard and made him/her uncomfortable, and he loved every second of it. That's just what makes Grunt who he is, and I thought it was great. Full of spunk, he is.

[Himmelstor]

danteshepard wrote...

Felipe 058 wrote...
I don't get why so many people are interested in just the sex. Yeah, it's great and all, but doesn't anyone actually care about the people themselves? Having a relationship with someone is about sharing yourself with them, emotionally, intellectually, and yes, physically. But no one type of shared experience should be exclusive of the others. That is why I romanced Tali, not because I wanted to see what's under the mask or inside the suit. I liked her as a person; do I really need any other reason?

actually enjoy symbolism in relationship. You are the only person who has seen beyond her mask, it's symbolic and a very intimite guesture of trust. She even mentions it "I've never shown my face to anyone. But I'm willing to show you, if I can do it without dieing."
That's main reason why I'm against bioware revealing her face. it's something for her and shepard to know.
Does that make sense?

Considering Shepard's actions defined by you...no...

[Himmelstor]

videowiz186 wrote...

Am retiring for night. If haven't already, read and comment on Part 17 of Salvation or Destruction! Now must return to Captain's Cabin. Must not keep Tali waiting. VW signing out.

Keelah Se'lai, my friends!

Keelah Se'lai, my good friend!

[Collider]

Pauravi wrote...
There you go.  Without the"sex" aspect, it is an intellectual and emotional relationship only.  I.e. "friends".  Good friends, maybe, but still friends.

I have to disagree. You can a romantic relationship with someone without having to have sex. Cuddling, hugging, and kiss are also physical actions that can be done with one another that are not necessarily sexual.

Well... yes, otherwise your romance doesn't make any sense.  If you didn't want any sort of physical bond with her, why romance her?  Would you be content if they had just made her your real good friend?  If instead of saying, "I want to feel your skin on mine..." she just said, "Gee Shepard, you're such a good friend to me, thanks for being there".  Would you have found that just as fulfilling?  Because I certainly wouldn't, and it isn't because I don't care about personality; it is because I care about all aspects of a romantic relationship.

Uh, those examples aren't that great. One is commenting on intimacy, the other is just friendship. You can say something romantic without referencing sex. Considering how dangerous it is to be intimate with her at all, talking about sex does not have to be involved with her revealing her feelings to you.

Oh, and I don't consider it "base" to believe that sex is an important part of a relationship, either.
Maybe that's just me.

I don't think that's what he's saying. He instead it appears thinks it is base so place such emphasis on sex as if that's all there is to the relationship, as if Tali is a piece of meat for sexual gratification. I would have to agree with him.

[Himmelstor]

HK01 wrote...

Himmelstor wrote...

Appreciated. But prefer to study cell reproduction.
Less alcohol and mood music required.

So we have a second Scalpels now

*glares*
Am the original Mordin-speaker.
May call me "Doctor."

[cannedcream]

Grumble, if i had a dollar every time someone messed up this quote, grumble

"Less then an inch deep to server your spine. Your soft. Salarians, asari, all soft. Quarians not so much. Turians you have to work the blade I guess. Never saw much point though. Heh, "much point", ahh nevermind."

"I don't think I'll be coming down here for these talks anymore, Grunt."