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#62126
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herbie dog wrote...

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TheSorrow1175 Wrote:

"In my honest opinion, Mass Effect would not be the same without Tali. No, I
am not exaggerating. Tali is amazing, And I am proud to call myself a
fanboy, damn it. She MUST be in Mass Effect 3. Unless she dies, and you
import, that is. If she lives, she MUST remain a squad member, and if
you romanced her, she MUST remained romanced in ME3. Wouldn't that be
amazing, stepping into ME3 with an already romanced Tali, and having a
full on romance experience throughout the ENTIRE game and not just
before the last mission?"

This.

I agree without hesitation or reservation. I was disappointed Tali wasn't a romance choice in ME; I was thrilled when she was an LI in ME2, and I was pissed off when we didn't get to see her face. I was shocked and heartbroken when she died in my third playthrough. But if she lives in an ME2 playthrough, she MUST appear in ME3.

I also agree that if she dies in an ME2 playthrough, then she MUST remain dead in ME3. Period. Dot. The ME2 mission is a suicide mission: one of the key goals in the game is to make decisions that'll keep your team members alive. Everyone survived on my first and second playthroughs, but in subsequent games I purposely tried to kill off team members. In one, I tried to kill off as many as I possibly could.

To maintain the RP integrity of ME and ME2, then those characters that die are dead. Forever. No Deus Ex Machina to resurrect them, a la Shepard. It's reasonable to assume Cerberus would spend 4 billion credits to resurrect the person who killed a Reaper--with small arms fire. It's unreasonable to assume that it (or any other entity) would bring back a skilled and charming engineer, no matter how sweet and capable she was.

If Tali's dead, she's dead.

Agreed, but if someone considers Tali to integral to their gaming experience, why would they bother letting her die in ME2?

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#62127
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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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Since she appears to have eyebrows I think there's a good chance she'll have hair, although it'll probably not be as long as Tali-Elf's.

Liara has eyebrows, but no hair.  Just sayin'.


Have you seen any other asari with eyebrows? I'm thinking Liara's aren't real.

#62128
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Well since ME 3 will be the grand finale ... I predict something tragic will happen. And all signs point to either Shep getting himself killed, or LI getting killed. It may happen, but I would not like to see Shep or LI get killed.

I bet the Rachni save you.

Meaning that if you don't save the queen in ME1 you're up sh!t creek.

You know what ending would make me furious?  Some kind of ecological catastrophy ending, where all this mass effect/dark matter use is what is causing Haestrom's sun (and eventually all stars) to age faster.  It's kind of the final failsafe for the Reapers:  even if they're defeated, the galactic civilization can't last with the technology they're using.

It would also somewhat explain why the Reapers chill out in dark space dreaming away the eons in the mean time.

So even if we win, the galaxy retreats to its respective homeworlds, never too see old friends again.

Furious, I tell you.

EDIT:  I'm already raging, actually.

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#62129
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herbie dog wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Aquilas wrote...

TheSorrow1175 Wrote:

"In my honest opinion, Mass Effect would not be the same without Tali. No, I
am not exaggerating. Tali is amazing, And I am proud to call myself a
fanboy, damn it. She MUST be in Mass Effect 3. Unless she dies, and you
import, that is. If she lives, she MUST remain a squad member, and if
you romanced her, she MUST remained romanced in ME3. Wouldn't that be
amazing, stepping into ME3 with an already romanced Tali, and having a
full on romance experience throughout the ENTIRE game and not just
before the last mission?"

This.

I agree without hesitation or reservation. I was disappointed Tali wasn't a romance choice in ME; I was thrilled when she was an LI in ME2, and I was pissed off when we didn't get to see her face. I was shocked and heartbroken when she died in my third playthrough. But if she lives in an ME2 playthrough, she MUST appear in ME3.

I also agree that if she dies in an ME2 playthrough, then she MUST remain dead in ME3. Period. Dot. The ME2 mission is a suicide mission: one of the key goals in the game is to make decisions that'll keep your team members alive. Everyone survived on my first and second playthroughs, but in subsequent games I purposely tried to kill off team members. In one, I tried to kill off as many as I possibly could.

To maintain the RP integrity of ME and ME2, then those characters that die are dead. Forever. No Deus Ex Machina to resurrect them, a la Shepard. It's reasonable to assume Cerberus would spend 4 billion credits to resurrect the person who killed a Reaper--with small arms fire. It's unreasonable to assume that it (or any other entity) would bring back a skilled and charming engineer, no matter how sweet and capable she was.

If Tali's dead, she's dead.

Agreed, but if someone considers Tali to integral to their gaming experience, why would they bother letting her die in ME2?

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Oh man, I truely love that pic. We just talking about how tali looks again. most poeple are in agreement that Tali with hair and elf ears is FTW.


Since she appears to have eyebrows I think there's a good chance she'll have hair, although it'll probably not be as long as Tali-Elf's.



See this? I love this. I love that I can clearly see enough of her to suggest beauty, and I love that I can't be sure. I love that there's enough mystery that removing the faceplate would be beyond-tempting, but just enough of a teaser that I wouldn't be disappointed, at all, if it never happened.

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

If the photo above is as much as we ever see of Tali, I'm happy enough. <3

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#62131
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Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Well since ME 3 will be the grand finale ... I predict something tragic will happen. And all signs point to either Shep getting himself killed, or LI getting killed. It may happen, but I would not like to see Shep or LI get killed.

Kinda sick of tragic endings myself.

Yeah me too... but the series has to end with a bang. A mighty loud bang, something that many poeple will say ME 3 ...the greatest thing to come out since sliced bread. And the only way to accomplish that  (unfortunetly) would have to have some tragic ending.:crying:

Sorry, I consider fireworks celebrating the final defeat of the Reapers while Shep and his LI kiss passionately to be a sufficiently loud bang.


Yeah I don't really get the inevitable tragic ending vibe from Mass Effect.  I see a happily ever after as more of a probability than a possibility.  With the way ME2 plays out though, I don't really expect one static ending at all.  I'm expecting ME3 to have all kinds of endings from everyone dying in a reaper-y mess to kicking back with Tali on Rannoch.

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Aquilas wrote...

TheSorrow1175 Wrote:

"In my honest opinion, Mass Effect would not be the same without Tali. No, I am not exaggerating. Tali is amazing, And I am proud to call myself a fanboy, damn it. She MUST be in Mass Effect 3. Unless she dies, and you
import, that is. If she lives, she MUST remain a squad member, and if you romanced her, she MUST remained romanced in ME3. Wouldn't that be amazing, stepping into ME3 with an already romanced Tali, and having a
full on romance experience throughout the ENTIRE game and not just before the last mission?"

This.

I agree without hesitation or reservation. I was disappointed Tali wasn't a romance choice in ME; I was thrilled when she was an LI in ME2, and I was pissed off when we didn't get to see her face. I was shocked and heartbroken when she died in my third playthrough. But if she lives in an ME2 playthrough, she MUST appear in ME3.

I also agree that if she dies in an ME2 playthrough, then she MUST remain dead in ME3. Period. Dot. The ME2 mission is a suicide mission: one of the key goals in the game is to make decisions that'll keep your team members alive. Everyone survived on my first and second playthroughs, but in subsequent games I purposely tried to kill off team members. In one, I tried to kill off as many as I possibly could.

To maintain the RP integrity of ME and ME2, then those characters that die are dead. Forever. No Deus Ex  Machina to resurrect them, a la Shepard. It's reasonable to assume Cerberus would spend 4 billion credits to resurrect the person who killed a Reaper--with small arms fire. It's unreasonable to assume that it (or any other entity) would bring back a skilled and charming engineer, no matter how sweet and capable she was.

If Tali's dead, she's dead.


I agree with you.  They need to plan for any and every character to be out of the game in ME3 since they set the story up that way.  I dont care if it takes them another 2 years to finish it as long as they let us feel the weight of our decissions.  I love Tali to much to ever let her die but I will off the rest just to see what happens.  Here is hoping that even if we dont have a house on the home world I still get to change her last name time Shepard in ME3.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

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Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.



It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.

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Phil725 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Well since ME 3 will be the grand finale ... I predict something tragic will happen. And all signs point to either Shep getting himself killed, or LI getting killed. It may happen, but I would not like to see Shep or LI get killed.

Kinda sick of tragic endings myself.

Yeah me too... but the series has to end with a bang. A mighty loud bang, something that many poeple will say ME 3 ...the greatest thing to come out since sliced bread. And the only way to accomplish that  (unfortunetly) would have to have some tragic ending.:crying:


Sorry, I consider fireworks celebrating the final defeat of the Reapers while Shep and his LI kiss passionately to be a sufficiently loud bang.


Yeah I don't really get the inevitable tragic ending vibe from Mass Effect.  I see a happily ever after as more of a probability than a possibility.  With the way ME2 plays out though, I don't really expect one static ending at all.  I'm expecting ME3 to have all kinds of endings from everyone dying in a reaper-y mess to kicking back with Tali on Rannoch.

I guess you guys are right. Hell i hope you guys are right. Tali will
get her home regardless if the world is ending or some galaxy alignment
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#62138
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Archonsg wrote...
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I donno, its hard to do a good "alien" yet human look.

I don't block the Na'vi in with space elves (mind you I've avoided Avatar..) they're dramaticly different looking from humans from what I've seen, I don't even expect Quarians to look THAT unique to be honest just hoping for more than pointed ears and shining eyes.Then again I'm one of those weirdos who liked the fan designed Tali with four nostrils  the dark blue and the shardlike dermal ridging.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.


People put up with a lot of BS for beauty.  If quarians considered hair beautiful in the past (which seems likely given the attention to detail with the shawls,) I could easily see them maintaining hair, even if it was only ever going to be seen by the one they love.

Plus, the suits are a lot more advanced than anything we could come up with today, who says super future suits with infinite pockets, nano machines scrubbing disease and self sealing sections couldnt accommodate hair?

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Terrorfex wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.

It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.

And I'll direct you to my earlier post:

Opinions, everyone's got one.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.

It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.

And I'll direct you to my earlier post:

Opinions, everyone's got one.

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I am not Commander Shepard ... but I approve of this to the 9nth power.

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Terrorfex wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.



It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.


Science be damned, if hair is integral enough to quarian beauty, they'll find a way to maintain it in their suits.  At least that's the explanation I would use to support Tali having hair.

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NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.

It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.

And I'll direct you to my earlier post:

Opinions, everyone's got one.


I take your circular argument and I cut in half to create two half-arguments and then I throw them both in the sea.

In your FACE!

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Tali Persona(theme) for Firefox.
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You can get it from that link. All you need is Firefox and the Personas add-on.

Pm me if you need help with anything ;)



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Phil725 wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.



It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.


Science be damned, if hair is integral enough to quarian beauty, they'll find a way to maintain it in their suits.  At least that's the explanation I would use to support Tali having hair.


Careful now. Science is one harsh mistress ... Do not incur her displeasure ...

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Phil725 wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

NuclearBuddha wrote...

Terrorfex wrote...

Clearly the function of the shawl is as a proxy for hair - I consider Tali's appearance to be integral with her faceplate and her shawl; until such time as Quarians are able to function independently of their suits, I don't differentiate between the two.

Oh, I agree that quarians are probably supposed to have hair: the shawl on both males and females seems to strong suggest something.

I'm just thinking hair isn't very compatible with long-term suit wearing and cleanliness.



It's not. I direct you to my earlier post :

SCIENCE says hair on Quarians is stupid, if not dangerous, and entirely unnecessary.

REALITY says that as far as most are concerned, hair on a woman is desirable and its absence not so. I fully expect if Tali is ever revealed she will sport flowing locks. It's the kind of suspension of disbelief that I don't think anyone really objects to.


Science be damned, if hair is integral enough to quarian beauty, they'll find a way to maintain it in their suits.  At least that's the explanation I would use to support Tali having hair.

yeah by things tali says quarians can have pretty sophisticated systems in their suits. why not a hair grooming one?

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epoch_ wrote...

epoch_ wrote...

Tali Persona(theme) for Firefox.
Looks like:
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http://www.getperson.../persona/119645
You can get it from that link. All you need is Firefox and the Personas add-on.

Pm me if you need help with anything ;)

Already got it but a huge thank you from me mateImage IPB