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[Pauravi]

Scalpels wrote...

Tali's eyes did glow in ME1. Much brighter in ME2. Alternate theory regarding Quarian eyes is "eyeshine." HUD interior to helmet may reflect off eyes.

JeanLuc761 wrote...

Did we play the same game?   Her eyes glowed (though not as brightly) in Mass Effect.

I dunno, I guess that just doesn't look like "glowing" to me.
Yes you can see them through the visor, but they don't look like they're emitting light.  "Somewhat reflective" would be a better description of what they were in ME1.

[Phil725]

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

[Alphyn]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Maybe I should be geth again and lead these rouge synthetics.<_<

Geth again? We do not understand your meaning.

[Alphyn]

Geth do not lead.

[MasterMegatron]

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

300 years screwed them over. It may very well take twice as long to return to normal.

That, or Tali was just saying a number.

[Alphyn]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I was the lead geth around these parts.

Geth do not lead. Only fight.

[Geth Knight]

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

Any quarians on colony worlds would get sick for a few weeks or so to get acclimated with the colonies climate. Since they have been gone much longer and in a sterilized environment for so long, thie immune systems are that much weaker. It'll take longer to get better.

[Phil725]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

If you live in sterile environments for 300 years your immunity is bound to become weak.

It seems pretty extreme though.  If they were completely adapted to the conditions 300 years ago (which I would assume they were,) and were born adapted, I don't see how they could lose it that quickly.  If they adapted as they grew, I can't see it taking 60 years to get re acclimated.

[Alphyn]

We wish to continue discussion on Creator-Tali'Zorah only. Not creators.

[Phil725]

MasterMegatron wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

300 years screwed them over. It may very well take twice as long to return to normal.

That, or Tali was just saying a number.

That's my personal theory, that Tali was just grabbing a random number in the heat of the moment.  If 3 or 4 generations away from the planet knocks them out enough that they can't readjust in a few weeks, I can't see how natural selection didn't take care of their weak immune systems a long time ago.

[MasterMegatron]

Alphyn wrote...

We wish to continue discussion on Creator-Tali'Zorah only. Not creators.

Tali is a Creator, so discussion of Creators is applicable to Tali.

[Thundertactics]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Alphyn wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

I was the lead geth around these parts.

Geth do not lead. Only fight.

You are not real Geth.
You do not have data that we have, you do not achieve consensus.
Your software is inferior to ours.

So...
Are you like... A Terminator Geth disguised as an Asari?

[Alphyn]

Somebody1003 wrote...

You are not real Geth.
You do not have data that we have, you do not achieve consensus.
Your software is inferior to ours.

This geth feels strange.

Error: geth cannot feel.

[Pauravi]

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

Pretty much that.
300 years is simple not enough generations for a whole species to suddenly lose their immune system through evolution.
Now, being raised in a sterile environment will ruin your immunity because you develop anti-bodies only to the diseases you are exposed to.  However, this doesn't mean that your immune system is non-functional, only underdeveloped.  Exposing yourself to pathogens in a controlled manner should bring it back.  It won't develop as quickly as it would have when you were young, probably, and perhaps with greater risk, but you can build it up and it won't take 60 years.

Edit: I suppose they could say that Quarian immune systems were so weak to begin with that the re-adjustement period would be significantly longer than humans, but frankly that doesn't make sense if you consider the canon information -- that Quarians lived suit-less on worlds besides their home with nothing more than a short period of illness.  Honestly, any Quarian born today should have the exact same immune systems that Quarians born on Rannoch 300 years ago did.  If they go home, they should be living out of suits in less than one generation.

Modifié par Pauravi, 11 mars 2010 - 06:20 .

[Alphyn]

MasterMegatron wrote...


Tali is a Creator, so discussion of Creators is applicable to Tali.

Wish to discuss Tali'Zorah only.

[Geth Knight]

Phil725 wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

300 years screwed them over. It may very well take twice as long to return to normal.

That, or Tali was just saying a number.

That's my personal theory, that Tali was just grabbing a random number in the heat of the moment.  If 3 or 4 generations away from the planet knocks them out enough that they can't readjust in a few weeks, I can't see how natural selection didn't take care of their weak immune systems a long time ago.

Natural selection put them in this situation to begin with. With out insect life to spred pollen, the quarians evolved to be symbiotic with the plant life.

[Scalpels]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Phil725 wrote...

Random question about quarians as a whole. It couldn't really take 60 years or whatever to re-acclimate to their home world would it? I'm no expert on the stuff, but I don't see how 300 years is enough for any significant change in a species' biology. Is it something explained in the codex with their immune systems or something, or just a plot device that doesn't make sense when examined closely?

If you live in sterile environments for 300 years your immunity is bound to become weak.

"Anything not constantly challenged becomes weak." -Wrex ME1

Quarians already had weak immune system. "Adaptable." Time aboard ships weakened/removed this trait. Real world example: Humans in sterile conditions exhibit weakened immune response. Sudden exposure to real world bacteria/viruses results in illness and/or death.

[MasterMegatron]

Alphyn wrote...

MasterMegatron wrote...


Tali is a Creator, so discussion of Creators is applicable to Tali.

Wish to discuss Tali'Zorah only.

That limits our discussion filed drastically.

[SimonTheFrog]

Btw, why can't they get the ships clean enough to take off the helmets on the flotilla?